Did I F*Ck up or is this chick whack?

[rubaduckie]

Was at a party 8 days ago. Having a great time. bagged a HB9 who was leaving then went upstairs. talked to the bartender, easily and 8 or a 9. she gave me the boyfriend spiel despite laughing at my jokes. I kept it moving dancing and smiling and being happy. girl comes up next to me. joke with her and she buys me a water (it's like $6 no joke). She says she'll be back but i see her go off to some other guys.

i turn around and see this little (5'0?) chick walk by with her friend. she looks at me and we start dancing. i start making out with her. after a while she asks me to buy her a drink and i laugh at her and tell her she has to try harder then that. she really starts laying it on me and after i while i want a drink anyways so i say **** it and get 2 drinks (mistake?) it was like 10bucks total, no big deal.

she has a tongue ring and i really want to get my d*ck sucked by a girl with a tongue ring, plus she dances like a freak. i put her at a 7.

she lives in jersey, im in NYC. she's meeting her friends to leave. tried to take her home. didn't respond positively. kept it going. she gives me her number and tells me to call her. i tell her to keep an eye out for a random number.

i call her next day (strike while iron is hot right, especially with a party girl who might not remember me) no answer. call again later, no answer. i text her and she responds right away. here's the text conversation we have.

Me (1/29): I thought i told you to keep an eye out for random #s! I thought a smart girl like you woulda had no problem w/ that (she goes to a tech school)
Her: I never pick up random numbers
Me: where's your sense of adventure party girl?
her: haah oh please!
me: tell you what. i"m in a generous mood right now so i'll give you one more chance haha.

I call her. I talk to her for a few minutes. she tells me she's a bit busy and she'll call me back a little bit later. i hang up.

next day:

her: i'm sorry i haven't called back ive been really busy and feeling like **** ever since the other night. it's so much easier to text!
me: no worries. i know how precious time is. what have you been doing? (let her off to easy?)

her: nothing school and work so beattt what about you?
me: it's not that bad. i worked all day saturday went out again worked all day sunday and went out today. you'll be alright. i also went to the gym. the good like haha. you're busy the entire week. i thought school schedules were a bit easier.
her: no I'm not busy the entire week but monday's are definitely the busiest.
me" i'm glad you don't have to wait until the weekend to enjoy yourself! Now you can come hang out with me thursday night.
her: lol what's going on thursday!?
me: is that excitement of just curiosity?
her: lol both?
me: excitement is good. i definitely encourage it. as for curiosity, well i'd love to satisfy yours but i find it more enjoyable to let suspense join the fun haha. just make sure you're free thursday. i'ma go shower and go to bed but i'll be sure to fill you soon Courtney. TTYL (meant to say fill you in)
her: lol wow I"m impressed... and okay i'll talk to you later by the way you should add me on facebook! *Full Name*
Me: Called. no answer... Text. Just (Few days later) just calling to let you know what's up with tomorrow. very important question, do you have 21+ ID
Her: ?
me: your I.D does it say you're 21?
her: Oh I didn't know who this was for a sec haha! and no... (should attack her for not saving my number?)
me: well that's a shame. it's alright though. i'll put you down with plan B. It's only plus one so you're going to have to cross the river without that.
megame day) call no answer... so i take it you're not coming tnight?
her: I'm not sure if I can I have so much to do and I have court in NJ so I'll let you know!
me: damn responsibility sucks. well i hate to add pressure to your back but you gotta let me know by 3 okay. i'm sure you'll make it back no problem. by the way, court? what a bad girl haha
her: hahaha I know
me: so i'll take your silence as a no... better luck next time *name*
me: 2 days later hey what are you up to?
her: trying to sleep i have class at 10
me: hahaha okay party animal see ya ltr then
her: lol i'm tired and sick jerk! text me tomorrow.
me: if you're lucky... gnight
her: pshhh lol, night!
me: (next day) how you feeling chump?
her: tireddd but how are you
me: i'm good but I'm starting to think you're a debby downer. always complaining. sick, tired, can't cross the river by yourself. what a princess.
her: hahah oh please!
her: i just have a log going on right now
me: oh yeah? what are you up to today
her: nothing just hanging out.. what are you doing?
me: i just got back from work & the gym. being sexy ain't always easy. i'm cooking some chicken and gonna shower. you should pop a 5 hour energy and come to the city. you know you'll have more fun with me.
her: add me on facebook like i barely remember what you look like lol...(f*ckin party girls)
me: pssh i was hot enough for you to throw yourself at me without even saying hello haha. tell you what. come hang out with me and i'll decide if you're cool enough to be one of my facebook friends, and more importantly, a friend at all
her: lol can you at least send me a pic? (really don't want to send a pic or do anything to qualify myself to her + i dont photo well, always look better in person. get a lot of compliments for looks in person and im in great shape. my face always looks weird in a photo.)
me: i would but i think it would be inappropriate to get so turned on while you're with your friends. you might give them the wrong idea. if you're such an adventure seeker you'd come see for yourself. what's the worst that could happen?
her: um lol, you're being a little sketch about showing me what you look like so i'm going to have to pass :\
me: really it's your memory that's being sketch preventing you from remembering. you know you'are already interested and curious. christopher st is 5 minutes from hoboken. if i'm not attractive to you (yeah right) then go back to jersey. we both know you don't meet someone like me everyday. you might as well satisfy your curiosity *name*

no response.

should i have sent the picture. i normally dont text and think its wahck but this girl was a chicken head or something to get on the phone. i know find better shorties but i just want head from a girl w/ a tongue ring damit!

this is my first post here and i appreciate any advice.

-RubaDuckie!

 

[ka_mate]

Okay dude I reckon you've overcooked the 'I'm sexy blah blah blah..." I got sick of reading about how sexy you thought you were or how going to the gym keeps you looking good. The phrase is '****y and Funny' I certainly saw the ****y but I didn't see any funny.

I also felt that repeatedly saying "I'm sexy" you were actually beginning to qualify yourself for her especially when you said "pssh i was hot enough for you to throw yourself at me without even saying hello haha"

this translates for me as
"what? but but but...you were into me the other night what is going wrong?... please tell me I'm hot...haha?"

you look like the girl looking in the mirror checking out her bum saying
"I'm not fat, I'm not fat, am I fat?" to her husband.

Stop saying you are high value and start being high value. If someone keeps telling you that they are brilliant at tennis but then lose 6-0 to you everytime you play you are hardly going to think they are a good player if they just keep saying it over and over. Actions speak louder than words.

Comment 2# Too many texts without organising a date.

Your conversation initially was heading off in the right direction but just lost momentum after the phone call. My opinion is this is how it should have gone

...
me: tell you what. i"m in a generous mood right now so i'll give you one more chance haha.

I call her. I talk to her for a few minutes and in this time I invite her for (drinks/lunch/whatever you want) on X day and if she is busy on that day ask her "what days are you free this week?"

As long as you are also free that day lock it in. In my experience TEXTING KILLS CHEMISTRY. By texting to much you stop becoming a guy to simply a number on her screen that keeps bothering her. Someone on here said it and I think it's absolute gold "You can't Fck a number" The sole purpose of your phone call is to organise the date. This can be and should be done in 4-10 minutes (I've done it naturally and easily in 4) this way even if she is 'busy' and can't talk for long (you don't want this call to be long anyway) you've organised a date.

If she says "I"m busy this week all the time" when you ask her to accompany you to the event of your choosing. say "Okay I might call you later then."

Wait a week call her again and if she says "I'm busy this week all the time" Next her. She won't make time for you= she's not that attracted to you = you've lost momentum at this stage = you won't make time for her.

Pimpologist has a wonderful thread about 'Setting up the first date' by only comment would be to ALWAYS SET UP THE FIRST DATE BY PHONE CALL RATHER THAN TEXT. It shows confidence, it's quicker, more likely to be successful and reminds her that you are a person rather than just short 140 characters messages that pop up on her phone.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15755

 

[In10se]

Well buddy, I hooked up with this 10/10 bisexual chick two weeks ago and last night I saw her again. I called her out on not returning my phone call and she said she was sorry and that We are both bad for not remembering each other... then I made the simple comment "Its ok I'll give you another chance with a big smile" THAT COMPLETELY turned her off...she ended up giving my friend her number and said I was a douche and proceeded to make out with her friend and SISTER!!! Apparently that comment turns girls off because in their mind its like "Who said I wanted a CHANCE in the first place?" "Who do you think you are giving ME chances?"

 

[ApolloCreed]

Where are all these 9/10, 10/10 chicks?

9/10 to me is like a Victoria Secret model, and I very rarely even see girls like this. And I live in Central London.

Anyway. You ****ed up because you didn't send her your photo, likely because you know she wouldn't meet you if she saw it. If she thought your photo was hot she'd have been straight over by the sounds of it.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

she really starts laying it on me and after i while i want a drink anyways so i say **** it and get 2 drinks (mistake?) it was like 10bucks total, no big deal.

First mistake was here, it was a big deal because it showed her that you were trying to win her approval. That's what supplication is and what AFC's do. Once you know the girl or are dating her, that's different.

she lives in jersey, im in NYC. she's meeting her friends to leave. tried to take her home. didn't respond positively. kept it going. she gives me her number and tells me to call her. i tell her to keep an eye out for a random number.

Second mistake was here; you should have tried to venue change, but not straight back to your house.

i call her next day (strike while iron is hot right, especially with a party girl who might not remember me) no answer. call again later, no answer. i text her and she responds right away. here's the text conversation we have.

Ummm please tell me your joking? You contact her 3x in one day? This is the straw that broke the camel's back. Now you are the desperate, clingy AFC.

her: i'm sorry i haven't called back ive been really busy and feeling like **** ever since the other night. it's so much easier to text!

Lots of girls prefer to text these days. However, with that said I will still tell you that when a girl has high interest she will answer your calls or call you back.

me: it's not that bad. i worked all day saturday went out again worked all day sunday and went out today. you'll be alright. i also went to the gym. the good like haha. you're busy the entire week. i thought school schedules were a bit easier.

Waaaaaayyyy too much detail! You don't have to give her the play by play bro, vagueness is your friend here.

her: lol what's going on thursday!?
me: is that excitement of just curiosity?

You have great wit! Just have to learn how to control your interest better.

me: excitement is good. i definitely encourage it. as for curiosity, well i'd love to satisfy yours but i find it more enjoyable to let suspense join the fun haha. just make sure you're free thursday. i'ma go shower and go to bed but i'll be sure to fill you soon Courtney. TTYL (meant to say fill you in)

Another BIG mistake. If you are going to set up plans with a girl, make them set in stone. We are going to meet a ABC bar at 9pm on Thursday. When your ambiguous with your plans, the chances of flaking go way up.

her: Oh I didn't know who this was for a sec haha! and no... (should attack her for not saving my number?)

Another sign of low interest, she would've saved your number if she was interested.

her: I'm not sure if I can I have so much to do and I have court in NJ so I'll let you know!

Translation: I'm not coming.

me: so i'll take your silence as a no... better luck next time *name*

Bro, take a hint! She would've contact you if she was going to make it. I don't even know you and the only impression I get is you were sitting at home all day, staring at your phone, waiting for her reply.

me: 2 days later hey what are you up to?

From here forward your in straight up AFC territory. Contacting a girl multiple times who has disrespected you, your time and has little to no interest in you.

her: lol i'm tired and sick jerk! text me tomorrow.
me: (next day) how you feeling chump?

Ironic that you call her a chump, when your the one acting like one. You are like her good little lap dog, doing as she tells you to.

me: i just got back from work & the gym. being sexy ain't always easy. i'm cooking some chicken and gonna shower. you should pop a 5 hour energy and come to the city. you know you'll have more fun with me.

You know how when you met her at the club and you bought her the drink? And I said it gives off all the wrong vibes early on by supplicating to her demands? Well your whole "being sexy" bit comes off as overly trying to qualify yourself to her. You keep trying to convince her that she should hang out with you, when her mind is already made up.

her: add me on facebook like i barely remember what you look like lol...(f*ckin party girls)

Another slap in your face..

me: pssh i was hot enough for you to throw yourself at me without even saying hello haha. tell you what. come hang out with me and i'll decide if you're cool enough to be one of my facebook friends, and more importantly, a friend at all

Again, your overly trying to qualify yourself. "I was hot enough" "I'm sexy" blah blah blah. Its like a fat kid that keeps telling himself he's skinny. Don't get me wrong confidence is great, you should SHOW IT, not say it so much though.

her: lol can you at least send me a pic? (really don't want to send a pic or do anything to qualify myself to her

Too late for that! That's all you have been doing for the past several texts

me: i would but i think it would be inappropriate to get so turned on while you're with your friends. you might give them the wrong idea. if you're such an adventure seeker you'd come see for yourself. what's the worst that could happen?

Again, qualifying yourself with the "so turned on" line. And then dissing yourself when you say "what's the worst that could happen?" Desperation at its finest.

me: really it's your memory that's being sketch preventing you from remembering. you know you'are already interested and curious. christopher st is 5 minutes from hoboken. if i'm not attractive to you (yeah right) then go back to jersey. we both know you don't meet someone like me everyday. you might as well satisfy your curiosity *name*

Again qualifying yourself!! Geezzz us dude! Put it this way, if you have to spend this much time trying to convince a girl your physically attractive, thats not a good sign.

should i have sent the picture. i normally dont text and think its wahck but this girl was a chicken head or something to get on the phone. i know find better shorties but i just want head from a girl w/ a tongue ring admit!

She didn't lose interest because you didn't send the picture bro. She lost interest because you came off as desperate.

I gave you some tough love, just trying to help you understand where your going wrong. Lemme know if you have questions.

And if this byatch texts you or anything in the next few days, ignore her @ss. That will start to shift the power in your hands.



PIMP

 

[MM92]

Where are all these 9/10, 10/10 chicks?

9/10 to me is like a Victoria Secret model, and I very rarely even see girls like this. And I live in Central London.

Anyway. You ****ed up because you didn't send her your photo, likely because you know she wouldn't meet you if she saw it. If she thought your photo was hot she'd have been straight over by the sounds of it.

It's these yanks ratings mate, can't take them seriously.

EDIT: also, Pimp-sicle sure does know his stuff.

 

[the_great_gaia]

Pimp-sicle, I just printed off your response and posted it in a glass, wooden frame and mounted it on my wall. It's more valuable than a dollar!

 

[floydb25]

Sounds like you suffer from false confidence. Women are intuitive, and can spot a phony. If I can - I'm sure they can. You're hiding behind sarcasm and ego to conceal your insecurities. So, you brag about how hot you are; all these women want you; you have all this confidence... But you're showing that you're desperate and needy. You do care. It does bother you. She knows this... Otherwise you wouldn't be so available, responsive, defensive, wordy, eager, and pushy. Even though you claim to be the hotness - you're coming on way too strong, and showing huge signs of desperation. This pretty much eliminates the high status you are trying to portray yourself as having, and its turning her off.

Certainly, you may be attractive, social, etc, but you're still insecure, and its showing big time. This is the issue that needs to be addressed. Don't just act - be. Your true colors are going to show eventually. If you were genuinely confident - you would not be bragging like this. Acting overly arrogant isn't a turn on, anyway.

I say this because everything you did reminds me of myself back in the day. I bragged about how hot I was; how everyone wanted me; how I was better than everyone else; and acted like an arrogant jerk. It was all a show, and it came out in full force whenever getting involved with someone.

Truth is, I was horribly insecure, desperate, needy, and had low self-esteem. Everything bothered me - especially rejection. I just acted like it didn't. That's how a lot of arrogant people are, though, really. Horribly insecure and desperate to be wanted - while acting like they don't care. People can see right through this. Especially when there's a chance of rejection at stake. That's when you really become desperate, needy, and insecure - while still claiming to be the ****, and acting as though nothing bothers you. You can't pretend to be something you're not. All those insecurities you're hiding are going to surface, and they will show. Just like they did here.

The results aren't pleasant. Not only do you come off as arrogant and conceited, but also desperate, insecure, etc. It's the worst of both worlds. All the bad traits from a jerk and nice guy rolled into one. Hence, why they're both sides of the same coin, and experience the same dreadful results.. Failure and low self-esteem ensues.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Pimp-sicle, I just printed off your response and posted it in a glass, wooden frame and mounted it on my wall. It's more valuable than a dollar!

Haha!! Take a pic and post it or it didn't happen!! LOLL Just playing bro.





PIMP