Demonstrating Higher Social Value

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OK, first don't approach girls from behind. Approach them from the side or walking past them so you don't seem desperate. Approach them within 3 seconds of being near them.

Try to stand at least 2 feet away from the person you're talking to.

In the following diagrams, G is for girl and Y is for you and the arrows are the directions the people are facing.

DON'T approach or sit down like this.

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When completely facing someone, you are conveying lower value of yourself and you come off as annoying. Imagine the situation. Little kids turn their bodies completely torwards you when talking. I used to make this mistake a lot.

Instead, approach or sit like this, with your head, not body, torwards the person.

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When speaking, speak slowly. Speaking too fast conveys lower value by making it seem as if you have to say what you are going to say and you can't hold their attention long enough to say it so you have to sputter it out like a machine gun. I also used to make that mistake.

When walking, stand completely erect and hold your shoulders up; don't let them slant at all. Do the same thing when standing. Also try and move your arms back and forth a little while walking. That shows alphaness.

When sitting, try to take up as much space as possible. This too conveys alphaness.

Though these behaviors really mean nothing and could be just habit, they are uncouncous cues people judge you by. So, you should adjust accordingly.

Personally, I saw results from these small changes immediately in that people took me more seriously, asked me for more advice and thought of me as a higher valued person ie cooler. You'll notice that Hollywood type personalities display these behaviors also.

Last but not least, these DHV techniques can be used in many social situations, not just sarging and as I said I have been using them effectively. It's like an anti-nerd defense buster. ADB.
 

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This should probably be in DJ discussion.
 

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Good tips. Everything you mentioned is tied to AA. It will take a couple dozen approaches to become pretty good at this stuff so get in the field!
 

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This is too nit picky. I prefer to focus on having positive interactions, rather than micromanaging every move I make.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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THE_ADDMAN said:
This is too nit picky. I prefer to focus on having positive interactions, rather than micromanaging every move I make.
I used to think like that too. And you're right, the big picture should all be about enjoying your interactions with women. Small actions like this won't do **** for your success if your overall game is poor, but as part of the overall package, it has its place.

Worrying about micromanaging your interactions is a legitimate concern, and in the beginning, it can even damage your game. However, think of it like learning to drive. In the beginning, it feels unnatural, you have all these little pedals and controls to think about, but eventually, it becomes second-nature and you can relax and enjoy a smooth cruise.

My advice is to not bite of more than you can chew. Focus on enjoying your interactions, but add small improvements to your game each time, such as this tip. That way you won't have to worry about managing so many things at once and thus losing your game. Over time, these small things will feel natural for you, you will no longer have to consciously focus on them and they will combine to improve your game.
 

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u have a point. for the most part, I have gotten these under control, and it did take time.

problem is, when people micromanage, they become mechanical. They see interactions as a huge form of stress, and dread them. This causes them to lose their desire to improve.
 
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Yeah, that's why I recommend not doing too much at once. For example, just practicing dirtyvibe's tips about approaching women for a month or so. Everything else about your game is as it was, but you focus on that one part at the beginning of the interaction. That way, it isn't stressful at all, because you only have to practice that one small thing. At the end of a month or so, it should have become second nature, and you can move on to practicing another small part of your game. You're not going to get any quick success with this, but after about a year, your overall game would have improved.
 

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THE_ADDMAN said:
This is too nit picky. I prefer to focus on having positive interactions, rather than micromanaging every move I make.
no guys i think you dont get it..the reason while you should focus on creating higher social value to a girl is to earn her respect and attraction towards you before going to comfort zone or complimenting zone.. creating comfort and showing interest works only if you earn her respect or she sees you as not a par from her but a guy who is much higer than her..
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I think the post is still a good tip. Not everyone are naturals (in particular introverts. They have the most problem with body languaging etc).

The tips are very simple and to the point.
 

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fair enough, for what its worth, it can be valuable.


I just dont agree with it.
 

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The body should be turned at a 90.9 degree angle, and head at 47.6 degree angle. Make sure your feet are exactly 7.6 inches apart and you take 3 deep breaths in 15 seconds, followed by 2 short ones.

That turns women on BIG time!
 

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Babnik said:
The body should be turned at a 90.9 degree angle, and head at 47.6 degree angle. Make sure your feet are exactly 7.6 inches apart and you take 3 deep breaths in 15 seconds, followed by 2 short ones.

That turns women on BIG time!

Dont forget...

When you speak, you want to use a downwards inflection.

You want to start your first word on a B flat, and lower your pitch 1 semi-tone per syllable.


If you do not do this exactly, you will NEVER GET LAID
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Babnik said:
The body should be turned at a 90.9 degree angle, and head at 47.6 degree angle. Make sure your feet are exactly 7.6 inches apart and you take 3 deep breaths in 15 seconds, followed by 2 short ones.

That turns women on BIG time!
exactly:rockon:
 

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I'm surprised this post didnt go further into telling DHV stories.
 

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i dont get why facing someone when talking is considered lower value. if anything, it's manners and usually a display of genuine interest.
 

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Talking to fast is a huge thing.

I used to just go off and ramble, especially when inebriated. I've learned to cool the alcohol, talk slow and meaningfully, and best of all, ignore them every so often to talk to someone else. Several times, a girl will be talking, and I'll see someone I know and start talking to them. It's a douchebag thing to do, but is alpha and social proof if you're talking to a hot girl.
 

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Babnik said:
The body should be turned at a 90.9 degree angle, and head at 47.6 degree angle. Make sure your feet are exactly 7.6 inches apart and you take 3 deep breaths in 15 seconds, followed by 2 short ones.

That turns women on BIG time!
Oh definitly,

The pH levels of your saliva must be at least the 4-7 range.

This shall give favourable effects on your exchange of bodily fluids which we scientists shudder to call a 'kiss', absolutely vile......:eek:
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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