Define "Out of Your League"

[Desdinova]

Define "Out of Your League"

A mental roadblock created by a person that prevents him from approaching and/or dating a physically attractive female human.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Last night for example, I was dancing in a club and a three girls were dancing next to me, bumping me etc. They were around an HB7. Nice.

Then a while later, I saw a super hot russian chick that looked like a the perfect porn actress (around an HB8 or more). I looked at her, she looked at me...and she turned her face with a little 'disgust' in her expression.

See? I read somewhere that girls that are very attractive expect the best of men because...well, they can. The super cute/hote chicks that are physically outstanding want men that have everything: attractive, fit, tall, head full of hair, wealthy, interesting...

Well this is granted. However, this is also generalising all women on a sample of one. And one Russian chick at that, who have notoriously warped and materialistic standards.

The next 8 you meet may well be in to you. You just don't know. And you probably wont know why she is. And probably neither will she. If you go out every night with this defeatist mindset, you've already lost, before you've even laid eyes on anyone. Refer back to what I said about league standings being in the eye of the beholder. Your 8 may well be my 4.

As desdinova succinctly put it, it's a mind block.

 

[zekko]

You made your point clear and Im sure many will agree with you but I would like to ask you a question.

Do you believe you are out of some girls league?

Checkmate.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Too Much Beta Male Faggot Thinking

"Out of my league" is a term used by those who lack of confidence. It's basically saying I am not good enough for her. You could very well NOT be READY for her which most guys aren't because of their neediness. Clean it up, do the work and people will admire you.

A few thoughts on 'leagues'.

-Leagues are many and varied, all of which contribute to overall standings in the game of life.
-Men in general rarely consider other leagues beyond aesthetics and possibly personality.
-Some leagues for consideration:
>Aesthetics; personality; sense of humour; neediness; intellect; education; life experience; wealth; psychological and emotional stability/aptitude.

-Poor standing in one league may be mitigated by good standing in another; likewise the former may indeed neutralise the latter.
-Your own or another person's position within a given league is ultimately determined in the eye of the observer.

-A person's position within a given league might be changed and often very quickly. It is important to be headed in the right direction within a given league:

>Aesthetics: clean yourself up, go to the barbershop, throw out your old clothes and get new ones, work out, eat right.
>Personality/sense of humour: Read and watch interesting and amusing things. They don't have to be culturally popular, but they do have to be interesting to you. Be bored, and you become boring. These things eventually filter in to the subconscious and then flow out during conversation without us realising.
>Neediness: What we tell ourselves, we come to believe. What we believe, we come to live.
>Education: Read and get taught. Simple. For me, a classical intellect is the preference.
>Life experience: This doesn't mean just traveling and meeting new people. It means seeking out experience that humbles you, that enables you to reflect on everything you do have, that genuinely makes you more wise to the world. For me, one of the most eye-opening experiences was working in the community with guys who had suffered high level spinal chord injuries.
>Wealth: Get a new job. Get trained. Work hard. Get a new job. Be clever with your money. Simple.
>Psychology and emotion: Read theory, understand the self. Understand others. Be empathetic. Avoid unhappy and unlucky people; they will drain the energy out. Know that there are only ever two options: do something about it when you can; when nothing can be done, accept the situation and make the best of it you can. Move on.

In summary, this is why there are some real winners in life, those who seem to have it all. They are not just good-looking. They work hard and have the attitude to make the best of everything they have and everything life has to offer. Who's at the top of the league? Those who win. Who wins? Those who work the hardest.

Posts of the day.

Like another poster mentioned, none of us are in the league for Scarlett Johannson or Margot Robbie.

Why, because their profession? Jennifer Lopez, Britney Spears, and Janet Jackson married Cris Judd, Kevin Federline, René Elizondo, Jr. who were their choreographers. Hell, J Lo was even briefly married to waiter, Ojani Noa, and Jenny has started dating another dancing dude. http://styleblazer.com/70570/14-celebrities-who-dated-down-would-you-call-it-a-downgrade/5/

Like I said, if you've even in the vicinity of a celebrity chick, she's going to assume that you're somebody just of of the strength of you being there. The rest is up to you. Considering that they are celebrities that constantly surrounded by sycophants, they're probably relieved when people treat them like regular people.

of course there are leagues, any guy that has been trying to pick up women for a while has experienced it and understands it.

This coming from a dude who's been hollerin' at the same kinda hoes, in the same kinda places, with the same kinda game, but yet is expecting different results.

See? I read somewhere that girls that are very attractive expect the best of men because...well, they can. The super cute/hote chicks that are physically outstanding want men that have everything: attractive, fit, tall, head full of hair, wealthy, interesting.

This says more about you than it does about the broad? Why do you feel that you're not the among the best of men?

Some PUAS want to sell you the fantasy that you can pick any chick with the right attitude...

Which PUA has said this?

And then they upload videos in which the assault a cute chick, jump from behind, tell her he found her cute blah blah...and get her number.

Those tapes are nothing more than a blueprint. An instructional guide on what to do.

where is the video in which you have sex with her???

So you're saying that dudes should be posting amateur porn on xvidoes.

oh there isnt right? cause you never fvcked her you assh-ole. --sight.

You know that goes both ways, right. You're constantly making posts about the chicks that nearly or have f*cked, but then again, you'll say some defeatist, sluthate sh*t like this. How do we know that you're actually f*cking these women, when you, yourself have never posted a picture of the you and the chick?

This is also why guys that go out to clubs etc, more often than not, wait until the club is about to close cause at that moment many women are wasted and they have lowered their standards at that time lol.

Another very telling post. Potna just told on himself and didn't even realize it.

 

[prison/con.net]

wow. If I had to think about and practice all this shyte, I'd much rather just go shooting or hunting.

 

[mrRuckus]

What league? There's my "will fvck" league, "will gf up" league and my "won't be ashamed to be seen with them in public as a friend" league. Lots of the women who may sneer at fvcking me I'd sneer at gf'ing them up anyway, so we're both out of each other's leagues.

Mostly I just find when I think a girl is "out of my league" it's more of me thinking that she isn't interested in how I live, the type of social life I have, and the interests I have. And that's not my or her issue. We just don't work. Although, she probably often thinks that makes me beneath her for being into "stupid things" or "being boring," but in reality it doesn't.

But yeah if she's 10x hotter than me, just as smart, socially skilled, similar interests etc as me the she's probably out of my league in all ways. Until 10 years pass and then she's just another frumpy chick.

 

[om1xr]

I realized that 99% of people's problems are mental. it's all in your mind. period.

Now leagues can be some society thing that most sheeple believe it but I'm at a point of my life where I don't give a **** about anything and I don't think there is any b!tch or anyone worth a second of my time. you know it's all that ego validation and attention seeking that cause the obsession with hot girls or envying people who you think that are more successful or good looking or whatever than you.

when you start removing layer after layer of your mind bullsh!t and society crap you start to see reality and life for what's it really.

money won't make you happy, hot girl with awesome ass and rack and personality won't make you happy. friends won't make you happy of you are still living in the shades of your ego and mind layers of bull****. be happy first and then you will attract what you are.

only a few people understand and get to the fact that life is just a playground and you should just enjoy it and have fun instead of worrying about who is out of your league and who is fvcking who.

look at dating as a game not as a way to find someone to make you happy or somebody who will make your friends and peers jealous of you.

Learn to be happy on your own. analyze your thought and emotions and see that they are pure illusion and impermanent. and in this post this question is just a way to waste your minutes thinking about something that doesn't really matter.

when you understand that there are people who you just click with and go along with with no drama or mind games. actually whenever there are mind games then just view the situation as something that you should consider ending.

 

[skinnyguy]

The problem with most men is pedestalization of puss..

Even fat women think they have a chance with Brad Pitt or Justin Bieber.

 

[zekko]

In other words, you're saying Brad Pitt would be out of some fat chick's league. I agree, and that also shows that YES, there are leagues.

 

[Steady Eddie]

Well, you can say there are no leagues, which will make you feel good, but the point is that the "league"-mindset is omnipresent and many people think that way.

As a result of this, you may be confident and tell yourself that there are no leagues and nobody is superior to you, but most people will subconsciously put you into a league, hate it or love it.

Your new flame will put you into a league. Her female friends will put you into a league and the way they talk about you depends on the league they've put you into.

Then she will compare you to the other guy who has been sending her text messages since Monday and the league he's playing in will determine if she's still interested in you or if she's going to replace you with him.

Thread winner.

 

[zekko]

But there is a league and its real, and its not being beta to say so either, or beta thinking

These guys who say "It is beta to think there are leagues", they're contradicting themselves. Because talking about betas, betas are supposedly the bottom 80-90% of guys. According to this forum, women are not attracted to the betas, so there are the leagues right there.

All the talk here about hypergamy, that women want the alphas, they want the elite top 10% of males, all this stuff is about leagues. Corey Wayne says it's only the top 3% of males who know what women want (he probably pulled that number out of his @ss though).

There are always exceptions, like you say.
Maybe the beta guy can get a super hot chick, but she's just going to be settling for him. Do you really want a girl to feel like she's settling for you?

 

[sambwoy]

(I doubt there's anyone here kate upton would want anything to do with), anyone else depends on who you are as a person

Celebrity culture seems to be only the domain of the lucky.
I'm under the impression you'd be hard-pressed to find a down-to-earth hottie who is compassionate and understanding about the 'little people'. :crazy:

Kate Upton is cute, but I feel at 28 I've seen it all before. 2013/2014's obsession with butts in the media, for instance, I did not get. And I heard that Megan Fox in real life is not that nice a person.
When I was younger, though, I (virtually) lived for hot girls. I had a crush on early 2000s Amy Smart.
But the 'hobnailed boot of reality' was that many girls in my youth were rancid, psychotic, feminist-in-the-making male-hating bisons. Socially, I generally felt I was being ostracized for my perks and flaws by even 3s or 4s, let alone 8s and 9s.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Yes.

So you say that there are no leagues except in the mind of the person putting others above him in a self defeating attitude while at the same time you support the fact that you are out of some girl league?

Either there are leagues or there arent, also we cant use a double standard here since the concept is reciprocal.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Yes, That's Exactly What I'm Saying

So you say that there are no leagues except in the mind of the person putting others above him in a self defeating attitude while at the same time you support the fact that you are out of some girl league?

Either there are leagues or there arent, also we cant use a double standard here since the concept is reciprocal.

A chick with three kids with two babbiess daddies isn't in the same league as Rex. I haven't read anything on this this thread that solidifies why men feel that women have these supposed leagues or than their own lack of confidence. A lot of guys are confusing leagues with preferences.

 

[stevo]

The same way I would not take a single mom serious is the same way I expect some women would not take me serious.


A girl is considered out of your league for as long as you continue to put her on a pedestal.



She might not be "out of your league" but still want nothing to do with you. These days even fatties have side pieces.

She might be considered "out of your league" by everyone else but you treat her like a regular human (no pedestal) and she's head over heels for you.



Bottom line is there are indeed preferences and there are pedestals but SHE HAS TO BE INTERESTED before anything else comes into play.



If a girl regardless of SMV shows you interest, roll with it.

If a girl regardless of SMV acts like "there's diamonds in her coochie", toss the beech.

I personally refuse to "work hard" at getting a girl's attention regardless of who she is, I honestly just don't care that much.

I live my regular life if she puts herself in my orbit then I deliver, you're missing life if you are continuously focused on getting numbers and impressing chics.

 

[Yewki]

A lot of guys are confusing leagues with preferences.

"League", "preference". Same thing. Semantics. I think Who Dares Win got you on this one.

A highly attractive girl prefers an attractive man, more so than the typical girl. An unattractive man is probably out of her league, because she prefers otherwise.

 

[prison/con.net]

when you see a REALLY fine gal with some twit, it's cause he's giving her dope