Dedicated to Igetit!. NC to cure flaking. Let's see if I'm DJ enough to run this sh!t

[Igetit!]

Lolol. Talk about irony. 1 minute after my previous post, she called me. We talked for about 25 min and got disconnected. She's asking me a lot of questions, suggested a day for when we can meet up, said she would ditch her friends to hang out with me...

Let's not close the book on this just yet...Just called her back again, looks like her phone died.

So the chick FINALLY called you. Well that's cool and all,but.....you didn't follow the step in my sig exactly as they're laid out. It's no big deal,doesn't mean you wrecked your chances or anything,however,a few things you did are kinda of concern.....


For one...you talked for 25 minutes? That's a bit much. Also,you didn't seem to do much flirting/use sexual innuendo to stir up some attraction in the girl towards you. You did a little,but it has to be more DIRECT....about YOU and HER She did seem to enjoy the conversation,but her liking the conversation and being ATTRACTED to you are two DIFFERENT things.



Another thing...you said she asked you a lot of questions and that SHE SUGGESTED a day when you two could meet up. Uhh....that sounds like INTEREST. You don't wanna jump on it too fast though. the info in my sig is broken down into 5 steps. Step #3 says EXACTLY what to do if the girl suggests a time to get together. You should have followed that step here.

I wish you would have done it,but that's over with now.


This kinda puts you back at square one. This chick suggest a day you two could meet up,but you didn't take advantage of it,so now,if you two talk again,she may not bring up the suggestion again,which means you'll have to do it. If you don't,but just have another conversation like the last one,you risk possibly getting friendzoned.


You're going to have to try and set up a date,but FLIRT with her first. Say something like,"Do you have a nice low-cut shirt or mini-skirt? I want you looking good FOR ME when I take you out". Say it like that Sage,DON'T GO...."Would you like to get together sometime?".


Make a statement about you two going out,don't ask her if she wants to. She already suggest a day you two should meet up,ASSUME that's still the case.


And as always...PURSUE OTHER GIRLS. You said you got 9 numbers tonight. follow those up. that way if this chick start trippin about you two going out you won't care cause you have other chicks to focus on.

 

[betheman]

Far to much effort and work going into a lost cause here. her interest is at best lukewarm and Im being optomistic!
oneitis has set in, its coulding the op's thinking. he seems to want to dissprove a theory rather than accept it and use it, thats fair enough you are wasting your time

 

[sageproduct]

he seems to want to dissprove a theory rather than accept it

Actually, I don't want to disprove the theory. I want to show myself that I understand the theory well enough to be able to adapt and apply it.

For one...you talked for 25 minutes? That's a bit much.

I know, I know...I honestly lost track of time. We get along really well...the whole first 5 minutes or so we were just bantering back and forth about our phone chargers, and somehow even that felt interesting.

Also,you didn't seem to do much flirting/use sexual innuendo to stir up some attraction in the girl towards you. You did a little,but it has to be more DIRECT....about YOU and HER She did seem to enjoy the conversation,but her liking the conversation and being ATTRACTED to you are two DIFFERENT things.

Roger that. I did tell her I like her voice...not enough.

Step #3 says EXACTLY what to do if the girl suggests a time to get together. You should have followed that step here.

Ahh yes this part. For the date she suggested, I was completely noncommittal in my response. Now as for the little gambit in Step #3 of your sig, I've thought for myself since the beginning of this that I wouldn't really be able to pull it off without it being suspicious. I get the idea of making her think I've lost/am losing interest, that was the whole point of this. Just the gambit about using her business/work schedule as an excuse I didn't think I'd be able to verbalize properly without it coming off as me in actuality being butthurt/emotional in reaction to her cancelling our date (plus her being young and inexperienced with guys, who knows how she might misinterpret it). Also, I did call her out of the blue today, her call was in response to my outgoing call to her. Since we met strictly on a dating basis and share absolutely no mutual acquaintances or other preexisting activities, it's obvious that I have no reason to contact her other than to date her, so I couldn't really pull off that gambit.

You're going to have to try and set up a date,but FLIRT with her first. Say something like,"Do you have a nice low-cut shirt or mini-skirt? I want you looking good FOR ME when I take you out". Say it like that Sage,DON'T GO...."Would you like to get together sometime?".

Roger roger roger. Hey...it's cold up here though not like down in Texas but for sure, before I ask her out I will refer to wanting to see her looking sexy for me, and kind of talk about what we might do on our date in a flirty, romantic way.

And then as soon as that's over you try to call her back to find that "her phone is dead"?

Well I should clarify. Our phone conversation only ended because her phone suddenly died while she was mid-sentence. Honestly, if that hadn't happened our conversation might have gone on for 45 minutes to an hour. I thought it was a connection problem with my phone, so I called again after the disconnection and figured out her phone was off.

 

[Igetit!]

I know, I know...I honestly lost track of time. We get along really well...the whole first 5 minutes or so we were just bantering back and forth about our phone chargers, and somehow even that felt interesting.

You were talking about phone chargers??? Oh boy....

That's fine and all,but come on now man.....keep ya head in the game. You have to PURPOSELY direct the convo into a more flirty/sexual area.

You're not in high school anymore man,come on now.

Roger that. I did tell her I like her voice...not enough.

Right. You gotta push it. Not too much,but you have to CLEARLY SHOW her that you're a MAN who's sexually attracted to her and you make NO APOLOGIES about it.

Ahh yes this part. For the date she suggested, I was completely noncommittal in my response. Now as for the little gambit in Step #3 of your sig, I've thought for myself since the beginning of this that I wouldn't really be able to pull it off without it being suspicious. I get the idea of making her think I've lost/am losing interest, that was the whole point of this. Just the gambit about using her business/work schedule as an excuse I didn't think I'd be able to verbalize properly without it coming off as me in actuality being butthurt/emotional in reaction to her cancelling our date (plus her being young and inexperienced with guys, who knows how she might misinterpret it). Also, I did call her out of the blue today, her call was in response to my outgoing call to her. Since we met strictly on a dating basis and share absolutely no mutual acquaintances or other preexisting activities, it's obvious that I have no reason to contact her other than to date her, so I couldn't really pull off that gambit.

That's cool. Rules aren't written in stone. Just make sure the next time you two talk you go for the date. Flirt a bit first,be more direct...then go for it.

Roger roger roger. Hey...it's cold up here though not like down in Texas but for sure, before I ask her out I will refer to wanting to see her looking sexy for me, and kind of talk about what we might do on our date in a flirty, romantic way.

Stop thinking logical,lol. Ok,I need to explain something here.....


That thing I said about her wearing a mini-skirt or low-cut shirt.....I don't say that cause I actually expect the woman to wear those things,I say it to show my SEXUAL SIDE. You get it? I say that to SHOW HER that I look at her in a sexual way,which'll help to generate attraction in her towards me.


It MAKES HER view me in a SEXUAL way cause I'm behaving SEXUAL towards her. It also keeps you OUT of the friendzone.


Even if you say that and she says no,it doesn't matter cause she knows how you think about her and how you see her. So don't worry about it being cold.....it was NEVER MEANT to get her to wear that stuff in the first place,only to show her YOUR sexual side.

Well I should clarify. Our phone conversation only ended because her phone suddenly died while she was mid-sentence. Honestly, if that hadn't happened our conversation might have gone on for 45 minutes to an hour.

You NEED to get a handle on this. Talking too long BEFORE the date can derail you right into the friendzone.


You get in,flirt,tease,toss in a little normal conversation,set up the date,then get OFF the phone. It might be ok after a few dates,but before the first one? No. :nono:


You've been warned.

 

[dap]

I know, I know...I honestly lost track of time. We get along really well...the whole first 5 minutes or so we were just bantering back and forth about our phone chargers, and somehow even that felt interesting.

You are talking like you love this girl and you've never even met her.

 

[sageproduct]

You were talking about phone chargers??? Oh boy.....

Well, my point in mentioning this wasn't to show you how boring my conversation with her is. In fact, it's quite the opposite. My point is that we "click" so well that even talking about something as mundane as phone chargers, we had a good vibe going. You know how a standup comedian opens with a non-opener and just starts talking, and it seems all natural and smooth, and that awkwardness of "ok i'm supposed to make you laugh now" becomes completely nonexistent? That's kind of what it was like.

Right. You gotta push it. Not too much,but you have to CLEARLY SHOW her that you're a MAN who's sexually attracted to her and you make NO APOLOGIES about it.

And thank freaking goodness the idea of being sexual with a girl doesn't get me in a nervous sweat anymore

I do have to use some tact here. She only had one picture on her profile, and she sent me one other picture. Both pictures were only headshots, so I'm slightly limited in what I can reasonably say. But yes, I get the idea.

That thing I said about her wearing a mini-skirt or low-cut shirt.....I don't say that cause I actually expect the woman to wear those things,I say it to show my SEXUAL SIDE. You get it? I say that to SHOW HER that I look at her in a sexual way,which'll help to generate attraction in her towards me.


It MAKES HER view me in a SEXUAL way cause I'm behaving SEXUAL towards her. It also keeps you OUT of the friendzone.


Even if you say that and she says no,it doesn't matter cause she knows how you think about her and how you see her. So don't worry about it being cold.....it was NEVER MEANT to get her to wear that stuff in the first place,only to show her YOUR sexual side.

This, I do get. My last "girlfriend", about 2 weeks after we started seeing each other, I realized I wasn't being sexual enough. So I told her before a date that we were going to go out and do something fancy, but that it was really just an excuse for me to see her in a dress. She generally doesn't wear them and had never worn one around me, but that night she showed up in one, and it was the most sexual date we had

So back to this topic, since I met this girl online, I've been "playing up" the qualification aspect of the game (since she was probably getting 20 "hey sexy" messages a day) - qualifying her based on factors other than looks. Plus, I've allowed the phone conversations to go longer because since there was never a first face-2-face interaction, she doesn't have anything to remember me by.

Examples of lines I might use on the phone with her next time:

-Your voice makes me conjure the image of a sexy girl with a tight body...and I'm dying to see if the real thing matches my image

-When we meet in person, I think our conversation might not be as great because my eyes will be distracted by your body.

Actually, lol, right before her phone died, she was telling me a long story, and I was soon to interrupt her by saying "You know if you were telling me this in person, I don't think you would have made it this far in your story because I probably would have shut you up by kissing you already."

You NEED to get a handle on this. Talking too long BEFORE the date can derail you right into the friendzone.


You get in,flirt,tease,toss in a little normal conversation,set up the date,then get OFF the phone. It might be ok after a few dates,but before the first one? No. :nono:

Understood.

 

[ARrocket]

Examples of lines I might use on the phone with her next time:

I'm free Wednesday - let's meet up.

Fixed it for you.

Less talk, more action.

 

[Igetit!]

Well, my point in mentioning this wasn't to show you how boring my conversation with her is. In fact, it's quite the opposite. My point is that we "click" so well that even talking about something as mundane as phone chargers, we had a good vibe going. You know how a standup comedian opens with a non-opener and just starts talking, and it seems all natural and smooth, and that awkwardness of "ok i'm supposed to make you laugh now" becomes completely nonexistent? That's kind of what it was like.

Now why does this make my "spider sense" tingle?

What you're saying here is that you and this girl "clicked" so well,that even discussing something as mundane as phone chargers felt good cause of the connection you two had,right?


Dammit Sage......dude. Man I swear...you have that "Hollywood love story" crap INGRAINED in you. I'll tell you what.....


WHEN you do like "ARocket" suggested,when you STOP TALKING about inanimate objects and bring the conversation back to YOU and HER,when you use words like "we,us,me and you" in conversation with her......if you two still "click" and have this same good vibe going on then as you had when talking about phone chargers,then cool.....I gotta agree with you.


It's no big deal to "vibe" with nothing's on the line,but in order to get anywhere sexual with a girl....SOMEBODY is going to have to risk rejection. Either you or the girl,and 99.9999% of the time,it's us.

I do have to use some tact here. She only had one picture on her profile, and she sent me one other picture. Both pictures were only headshots, so I'm slightly limited in what I can reasonably say. But yes, I get the idea.

You're not limited because you only see headshots. Since you don't know what the rest of her looks like,your imagination is free to wonder.

Just assume she has a nice body. That will cause an emotional reaction in her whether your assumption is true or not.


If it is true,you viewing her in a sexual way will cause her to think of you in a sexual way as well.
If it's not true,she'll probably try to work harder to make herself more appealing and attractive to please you.

This, I do get. My last "girlfriend", about 2 weeks after we started seeing each other, I realized I wasn't being sexual enough. So I told her before a date that we were going to go out and do something fancy, but that it was really just an excuse for me to see her in a dress. She generally doesn't wear them and had never worn one around me, but that night she showed up in one, and it was the most sexual date we had

Cool. If you find something that works....KEEP DOING IT.

So back to this topic, since I met this girl online, I've been "playing up" the qualification aspect of the game (since she was probably getting 20 "hey sexy" messages a day) - qualifying her based on factors other than looks. Plus, I've allowed the phone conversations to go longer because since there was never a first face-2-face interaction, she doesn't have anything to remember me by.

Hold up a sec....You see what I put in bold? You said "phone conversationS". Just HOW MANY conversationS have you had with this chick?

Examples of lines I might use on the phone with her next time:

-Your voice makes me conjure the image of a sexy girl with a tight body...and I'm dying to see if the real thing matches my image

-When we meet in person, I think our conversation might not be as great because my eyes will be distracted by your body.

Uhhh.....NO. Those are kinda...well....cheesy.

Just call her up,do a LITTLE normal conversation first,then flirt a bit...ask her what she's gonna wear FOR YOU out on your date. That's right....ASSUME the date is a go BEFORE asking her out. Show confidence.

Tell her you're a "good boy" out on your dates and that if she thinks she's gonna get you drunk and take advantage of you,she's got another thing coming.

Actually, lol, right before her phone died, she was telling me a long story, and I was soon to interrupt her by saying "You know if you were telling me this in person, I don't think you would have made it this far in your story because I probably would have shut you up by kissing you already."

Well....this isn't my style,but I guess it could work. It does get the idea of you two kissing into her mind,it's just out of order.


The DATE is #1,it's your primary objective. You can't kiss the girl WITHOUT the date happening first.



ARocket is RIGHT...less talking,more action.

 

[dap]

For the love of God listen to Igetit! above. He's helped me through some shìt too, but you gotta quit arguing and start listening to what he's got to say.

 

[sageproduct]

Sorry, didn't update you guys.

Sunday, tentatively had plans for Tuesday. Our conversation got cut short.

Tuesday, I text her to start talking about details. She responds a little, then just goes silent.