Dealing with high level girl game

[mrgoodstuff]

Seems like u haven't read my op

Yea i read it again. The first time i glanced and assumed it was the same story most guys post here.

So you did everything right for the type of woman she is. Was never weak or stupid behind her. The situation ran its course.

 

[Dodgydave]

I take this as she never initiates sex. IL bellow 80%.


She has game.

You have something that she wants. You + citizenship perhaps. Anyway, she playing your ass. Player playing player. Good one!

Where to take it? Do not take it serious. She will have control. She will fck up relationship once she get's what she wants. You want to see where it goes? Act p*ssy whipped for couple of weeks. Call her all the time, see where it goes. That's her true interest level and her true intentions will surface.

I thought about this but shes gotten her passport. I've found this in her room myself and also she was able to work freely.

She does initiate sex, but mostly me.

I thought about what she wants from me. I'm extremely tight with money with her(think over the course of 8 months I bought around 4-5 drinks and she bought around 3 plus some food at her place), and she has no Citizenship problems, besides the good sex which she was getting, I don't appear to have anything more to give her besides the drama of being aloof and treat her generally like nothing/****.

 

[Dodgydave]

I have had similar HB in the past, but not Russian. You are concern about your frame and that is why you are here. In my opinion, your frame is ok, but you believe your game needs improvement. Don't contact her by phone, email, text, don't show up with another girl to make her jealous. This is a mentalist bytch testing you. When you replied and told her do not bother because your are busy with work she thought you are mad. It was a mistake to reply to her. That is what she wants, she wants to upset you and see how to react. Treat her like an object. She does not have the skills to chat like you. For some women, beauty is all the talent they have. Most HB9 don't even know the earth is round, they are objects. Nature didn't give her brains, but beauty. All I can advise you is go find some one else and worry about sex with your HB9. Live the romance and passion, not all relationships will turn into marriage. It is best that you apply the 90 days rule. Still, do not contact her unless it is in person. If I were you, I would make myself available in person after the 90 days and see if she approaches you. But remember this, it was you who ended communication, so be ready to approach her if she gives you any body language. Question, what year were you two born?

I agree that she is a crazy *****. I suspect her and her friends has high level girl game and we played the same game.

When I told her not to waste my time, she blocked me and unblocked me when I text her I'm busy with work as a reply. Then I texted her i have no time to explain why but I do not understand why u think u can seduce someone with ur attitude.

We are both 27.

I haven't contacted nor she contacted me since we broke off. I think it's around 2.5 months.

I know she is not dating material, so i just use her for sex. I know there is an expiry date on this case. But my gut tells me I could have kept the gravy train for longer.

I had hotter girls than her who fall on my knees when I did what I did with this Russian chick. This chick gave me a revelation - that I need to improve my game.

 

[Dodgydave]

In my opinion you're just thinking too much. She doesn't have any superior game or anything. She was looking for commitment and you weren't interested in that, so she moved on. Just think about it, What would you do if she doesn't get physical with you after first two or three dates (or whatever threshold you have) - you move on (for her it's probably eight months). That doesn't make your game (or her's) superior or inferior. Its just a mismatch of expectations between you two.

I thought this way too, maybe the hole in my game was that I didn't make her feel special.

I didn't care about her, I should have at least acted I cared.

I only said I missed her once throughout the 8 months, and that's when she was away in Russia for 3 weeks.

I never even said I liked her.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I agree that she is a crazy *****. I suspect her and her friends has high level girl game and we played the same game.

When I told her not to waste my time, she blocked me and unblocked me when I text her I'm busy with work as a reply. Then I texted her i have no time to explain why but I do not understand why u think u can seduce someone with ur attitude.

We are both 27.

I haven't contacted nor she contacted me since we broke off. I think it's around 2.5 months.

I know she is not dating material, so i just use her for sex. I know there is an expiry date on this case. But my gut tells me I could have kept the gravy train for longer.

I had hotter girls than her who fall on my knees when I did what I did with this Russian chick. This chick gave me a revelation - that I need to improve my game.

Ahh no! You need to stop second guessing yourself when you cut them off. You did perfect until you contemplated whether you could game her back.

 

[BURT MCQUEEN]

Fwb Ive been ****ing for 8 months, and HB9, Russian model. ****ed on second date. She's been pressing a relationship but I wasn't sold. She acts cold, keep her distance while walking with me, hardly hold my hand or sit next to me. I don't grab her either, so I walk and she follows.

Meet her once a week max. And not every week.

She cold with me and so am I. Never buy her anything except a few drinks, that is, for the whole course of 8 months.

Never spoke to her on the phone, she hardly talks, and every meeting she'll wait to make me talk and if I don't, it's silence for 10 min (literally) until she asks a question about me.

Gave her multiple penetration orgasms every single time we have sex so best sex she ever had (her words) and I know. I last for hours (pure penetration, foreplay excluded), big ****.

I'm tall, chiselled, former part time model before injury but will get back in after I recover. Masters degree and has a good job.

I didnt meet her the weekends for a few weeks, she presume I ****ed around on weekends (I never said I was exclusive and I told her she can **** around too. She claim she doesn't but who cares) , met up with her after a weekend, she was on her phone for 10 min, ignored me and was late for the date. I got up and left after asking how's her day and ignored my question too, she texted me sorry immediately. I texted back saying dont waste my time. She apologised again few hrs later and I ignored.

She thought was a break up, send me a long text complaining about me (I don't trust her, thought I'm too good for her, she don't trust me, cold to each other) and said she wants a real bf, and said this isn't for her. I texted back saying I'm busy with work and that how she think she can seduce someone with her (****ty) attitude.

No contact since, it's been I think 2.5 months.

Didn't do all this because I'm always an ass, but because she never gave me anything more than sex. Never makes up to me when late, know I like girls who can cook but never make an effort to learn, and doesnt want to buy be back a drink when I buy her one. So I give her little in return.

I suspect I have holes in my game hence she didn't submit like other girls who is hotter than her. I want to improve my game. I suspect she and her friends has high level game and we played the same game. In this case, what could I have done better to keep the gravy train for longer?

YOu want to improve your game? Your game is beta game. Unplug, read the rationale male and the DJ's bible paying attention to the posts where the authors talk about the ONEitis

And about your comunist russian broad:

NEXT

 

[lamath]

YOu want to improve your game? Your game is beta game. Unplug, read the rationale male and the DJ's bible paying attention to the posts where the authors talk about the ONEitis

And about your comunist russian broad:

NEXT

From his description of interaction it does not look like beta game


Maybe he could have faked being interested in a ltr, but this is deceptive and dishonest

 

[Epic Days]

In this case, what could I have done better to keep the gravy train for longer?

Nothing. What exactly is it that you wanted from her that she wouldn’t give?
She’s not crazy for crying out loud. Don’t listen to all of that garbage. There’s not enough data to discern that.

 

[Dodgydave]

Ahh no! You need to stop second guessing yourself when you cut them off. You did perfect until you contemplated whether you could game her back.

You have mistaken, I'm not trying to game her back.

My question is how I could have kept the gravy train for longer when I was in.

 

[Dodgydave]

Nothing. What exactly is it that you wanted from her that she wouldn’t give?
She’s not crazy for crying out loud. Don’t listen to all of that garbage. There’s not enough data to discern that.

Keep the gravy train for longer and more submission from her.

 

[Dodgydave]

YOu want to improve your game? Your game is beta game. Unplug, read the rationale male and the DJ's bible paying attention to the posts where the authors talk about the ONEitis

And about your comunist russian broad:

NEXT

Read my post properly

 

[BURT MCQUEEN]

Read my post properly

unplug

 

[Dodgydave]

I see no 'beta game' here really and honestly this is part of the issue!

You wanted to play alpha card and what you did was 100% alpha - it's rather rare to pull it off efficiently at your age unless you are really attractive man (and I believe you are) however DJ skills are different.

DJ skills are psychologically based -I can read through the lines that you are very concentrated on what you did right and what you didn't do right while the case is rather how you should evolve your game with her.

The thing is she wanted something more from you than just your 'alpha card', few drinks&steamy sex. She wanted emotions, deep connection, mystery, seduction.

She wanted you to phuck her mind, but you decided to just phuck her body. She really gave you the chance and you could do it really - instigate passion in you two. Just a couple of fights here and there. Wound her but be caring after that.

Alpha 1.0 game - i.e. be a bit caring after she was caring but be a bastard before she will be a b.itch is a numero uno rule - it's really hard to apply it properly but it's the way to deal with woman at your SMV level (that's how I game same SMV level as my own at least, it's lower than yours).

I think she went after your aloof attitude and looks but later on she understood that you might be (please try to considerate it as part of advice rather than insult) shallow in sphere of your emotional spectrum.

Every woman needs a bit of comfy beta emotions sometimes, but she also needs an emotional rollercoaster. You can create it even on the level of SMS game (I am good at it, women almost game themselves because they read through your lines or focus on it a lot so you can use it to create tension).

It's great to act a bit like a psycho from time to time. Man, they crave psycho.

I'd say you get it covered in the Looks and Money but you need to add substance to your character (it's actually not that hard to do it, but you need to really feel emotional rollercoaster to instigate it in woman efficiently).

Good luck in DJing

Thanks Mark for the advice.

One of the reasons I didn't care about her is she hardly reciprocate when I buy her a drink. Last time she paid for the drinks, she complained and said this is not romantic. I told her u sound like a gold digger and I don't do gold diggers. She then shut up and said she wasn't a GD. Felt like she just wanted a one way thing - that I give and she takes.

She has **** time management and never make it up to me the way I wanted when she is late. I didn't ask for much, a drink or a meal.

I ended up not spending any money on her, doing free dates and just have her suck me dry.

Told me she gave alot by ****ing me. I told her I'm gave her the best sex any girl could have (her words) , and sometimes I don't come ****ing her so she should be the one returning the favors.

She even had the audacity to ask why I do not buy her flowers lol. I said why should I.

No submission, she gave me no interest to want to pluck her mind.

What SMS game do you play? Could you give me some examples. Because this Russian at the beginning only give 1 word answers on text, I never text her except to tell her date location time and tell her to dress nice when meeting me.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Thanks Mark for the advice.

One of the reasons I didn't care about her is she hardly reciprocate when I buy her a drink. Last time she paid for the drinks, she complained and said this is not romantic. I told her u sound like a gold digger and I don't do gold diggers. She then shut up and said she wasn't a GD. Felt like she just wanted a one way thing - that I give and she takes.

She has **** time management and never make it up to me the way I wanted when she is late. I didn't ask for much, a drink or a meal.

I ended up not spending any money on her, doing free dates and just have her suck me dry.

Told me she gave alot by ****ing me. I told her I'm gave her the best sex any girl could have (her words) , and sometimes I don't come ****ing her so she should be the one returning the favors.

She even had the audacity to ask why I do not buy her flowers lol. I said why should I.

No submission, she gave me no interest to want to pluck her mind.

What SMS game do you play? Could you give me some examples. Because this Russian at the beginning only give 1 word answers on text, I never text her except to tell her date location time and tell her to dress nice when meeting me.

You were solid for a bytch like that. The only thing you didnt do was run serious game on her. Did you cheat on her? Flake on her? Give other females more interest? Be unpredictable? Force her to come to you? Make her spend money?

 

[Dodgydave]

You were solid for a bytch like that. The only thing you didnt do was run serious game on her. Did you cheat on her? Flake on her? Give other females more interest? Be unpredictable? Force her to come to you? Make her spend money?

I was never exclusive, she told me she wasn't ****ing other guys. I told her she can.

She did ask me a few times to hang out for a movie, I said I cannot last minute.

She ask me where I travelled, showed her my ig which has hotter chicks than her flirting at me. The next day she ask if I can be her bf. I thought she will be submissive then.

I set the date time location every time we meet. Usually near hers because I had a stalker before, no girls know where I live.

I make her spend money, but she is extra protective with this. She refused to buy me a drink when she was late for 30 min.

 

[Suave88]

I believe he is attached. You read his comments? Why do we come here? I come for advice and couching. He wants her back, but denies it. I have already written to him. Apply the 90 days rule, called 90days challenge, then go find the bytch. Don't call or text, and don't even fvcking dare to show up at work or home. For Christ Sake don't buy flowers! You know what they say in Russia? "Flowers are for the dead". just show up in her way, like magic. Don't ask us how to track her. You are the man. I believe you want to continue the gravy train, so you are 2.5 months later. Now it is the time to establish an observation point and detect patterns in itineraries. If you decide to go after her for practice or because you like her, remember the ball is in your court. So if you come across her and she makes enough body language approach her. Ask her if she is mad with you and go from there, start the conversation. I don't know, maybe she calls you back. Look, none of us is perfect. Just care about the romance and not the relationship if it does not work, well it is a school..... You know what I mean.

 

[Dodgydave]

I'm here for advice on milking the cow longer when I had the chance. Not getting her back.

It's thst simple

 

[Dodgydave]

I believe he is attached. You read his comments? Why do we come here? I come for advice and couching. He wants her back, but denies it. I have already written to him. Apply the 90 days rule, called 90days challenge, then go find the bytch. Don't call or text, and don't even fvcking dare to show up at work or home. For Christ Sake don't buy flowers! You know what they say in Russia? "Flowers are for the dead". just show up in her way, like magic. Don't ask us how to track her. You are the man. I believe you want to continue the gravy train, so you are 2.5 months later. Now it is the time to establish an observation point and detect patterns in itineraries. If you decide to go after her for practice or because you like her, remember the ball is in your court. So if you come across her and she makes enough body language approach her. Ask her if she is mad with you and go from there, start the conversation. I don't know, maybe she calls you back. Look, none of us is perfect. Just care about the romance and not the relationship if it does not work, well it is a school..... You know what I mean.

Thanks for telling me the 90 day rule which I do not plan to use. Im not contacting her till kingdom come.

 

[Dodgydave]

I dont see too much here other then the dialogue your putting out shows your attached it some way. Maybe because she's not treating you well.
Here's some solid advice. Dont waste time with girls who are not doing things for you. Dont get caught up in trying to get her too.

You said yourself your ig has hotter women on it. So it seems she's disrespecting you and you may be hung up on that.
If not what is it about her that's pulling you in?

It's about compliance submission and milking the cow for longer.

If u read the convo I ditched her when she didn't act properly.

It's not about getting her back or hung up.

 

[Suave88]

Hey!, gaining your Russian girl back is also a challenge. You can learn a lot from it. If you can end a relationship with any girl and restart it later on. you have master some skill most here don't have. It is not about ending the relationship and moving forward like many say "NEXT" We know you are a man. However, don't you want to learn how to milk the cow longer? Yes? Well, here you have your opportunity. Never ever, brake up with a woman. Keep her in your basket, think of it like a pair of shoes you wear when you like. So if you are capable of going back and get her while having others girls at the same time, that makes you a Casanova .People change their mind and forget too. Have you ever heard "Time cures everything" So, soon she will be ready to hear from you. Go and try.