Dealing with competition from other guys

JdelaSilviera

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Nowadays, the biggest problem men have is... other men! The situation is getting out of control, because I would say that an average looking girl has 4 guys pursuing them... forget about HB7 or higher... it´s just ridiculous, wich explains their flaky atittude, they can have men when they want and they like to have the power.
Competition is something that you can´t avoid.

How do you deal with it? And in a situation where there are several guys competing for a girl, who is the one most likely to get her? The on who cares and tries the most, or the one who cares the least? I would go for the latter but looking forward to hear you guys!
 

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Good point there. Average ones do have too many options while average guys have 0-25% or the fatties and uglos. You must be your best self to begin with and then out game the opponents- I don't see any other way around it. Not caring is good as well, yet not to the point that you don't cease an opportunity at the right moment. Sometimes you aren't even suspecting how many guys she's trying to string until she flakes or some stupid drama crap shows up.....In this case you don't even know who you are up against. Havent seen DJ-like guys as my competition so far. Good for me anyway. But to be honest, this site gives you a major advantage over the rest of the average folk, so you are not that average.
 

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JdelaSilviera said:
Nowadays, the biggest problem men have is... other men! The situation is getting out of control, because I would say that an average looking girl has 4 guys pursuing them... forget about HB7 or higher... it´s just ridiculous, wich explains their flaky atittude, they can have men when they want and they like to have the power.
Competition is something that you can´t avoid.

How do you deal with it? And in a situation where there are several guys competing for a girl, who is the one most likely to get her? The on who cares and tries the most, or the one who cares the least? I would go for the latter but looking forward to hear you guys!
With all due respect, if a girl is being chased by 4 or more men, it doesn't mean she would want all of them. And look at it from a girls perspective:

All the good men (bf material) are chasing 4 or more different girls or are even being pursuid themselves by four or more girls!

What if you compared men to tv-shows? Some tv-shows are worth watching over and over while others are just downright boring.
If that girl is acting flaky, she simply doesn't recognize the guys chasing her as good men or bf material.

I no longer believe it's a matter of who is trying the hardest or caring the least. If you're a goodlooking guy and the girl is superficial, you might have no problem getting that girl. Even if you act like a desperate guy. But if she has bad experiences with goodlooking guys, you might find yourself having to work even harder than the class-nerd to win her over. Some things you just can't control. Luckily the one thing that is very important you can control: Confidence.

Key issue in this case is not to look at your competitors and think that they are better or have better things to offer. (They might be the boring tv-shows) Look at yourself and think of all the things you have to offer her. Do not even for one second think of yourself as less than the other guys. I'll bet there is at least one or two things you can come up with that you can offer that girl better than the others. If not: Think again! Find your own positive values and keep them in mind at all times. Maybe you're a better lover, maybe you're a better conversationalist, maybe you're a better listener...

In the end you will have to project the fact that wheather or not she goes out with you (or gives you her number or sleeps with you), you will be just fine. The girl might add something to your life but remember she will never be able to take anything from your life if she rejects you. She is the one that might be missing out the opportunity to meet an interesting and fun guy!
 

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The solution is pretty simple... just outcompete the other poor bastards. Work on becoming the best you can be in all relevant areas of your life. This will lead to a more productive and fulfilling life. You'll be happier as a result and have great confidence. Having women throw themselves at you is just an added side benefit. These areas include:

- Looks and physique
- Career/business/education (income)
- Personality
- Social networking/friends/social status
- Sexual skills/sexuality/escalation, etc.
- Game
- Social-sexual awareness.

I'm a short (5'8") east indian guy. By all accounts I should be horrible with girls... and I was up and into my early 20s. Since then I've developed my physique, finished off my education for the time being, learned game/social-sexual awareness and am trying to be the best that I can be. Today I'm engaged to a model/figure competitor, earn a 6-figure income (which doesn't mean a lot in my part of the world) and live in a half million dollar home with minimal debt except my mortgage. This is me and my fiance:

http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m91/Treydesmon

In my experience the factor did the most for me was looks/physique. I've been lifting for around 12 years. I've been a high performance athlete at the varsity level and was a stripper for 3.5 years. I'm now a competitive bodybuilder. If you're in top 5-10% of the male population physique wise girls will wanna sleep with you JUST because of build. If you wanna be in this top tier, you gotta be lean (< 10% bf) and still have a lot of muscle.

If you're the kinda guy who has an elite physique coupled with a good job/income, social network/personality and you're good in bed w/ game and escalation skills, then I really don't think you're gonna have too much holding you back.

I hate how this board always pushes game rather than genuine self improvement. Coupling them will yield much better results. There's tons of guys out there who are in way better shape than me or make much more money than I do. However, statistically you'll have a harder time finding someone who is a more complete package than me.
 

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If I feel that a girl is under-investing, I withdraw. The chance that she is with other guys at the DM is enormous. I refuse to be part of competition.
 

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Be a guy that has few competitors. Most guys are lame, boring, lack social skills or are just dudes with nothing going for them.

Shouldn't be hard to stand out amongst them.
 

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Highlight your unique selling points and err on the side of polarization

Be the new flavor of Ben & Jerry's. How can she resist?
 

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Be a guy that has few competitors. Most guys are lame, boring, lack social skills or are just dudes with nothing going for them.

Shouldn't be hard to stand out amongst them.
This 100%.

Stand out and be different. 99% of all guys are lame and boring as f*ck. Think of exciting, unique dates, dress well, be well-groomed. Talk about your goals and passions. Ask interesting questions. Charisma is HUGE. Develop it.

All this will separate you from everyone else.
 

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I see a lot of guys turning it around. I see more fat pig women then I do dumpy men.
I don't know were you live but I don't see it as much around were I am at.
I think this narrative is slowly becoming a cope.
Trying to standout in itself is a BS paradox.
"Turning it around" in what way? Getting in shape? That's only one part of the equation. Changing their personality and not texting 10 times if they don't hear back from a woman in an hour is a lot harder to change.
 
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