Dealing with anxiety of dating younger women

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Any perspectives you guys can give me on dating hot, early to mid twenties women as a 30+ yo, I really appreciate. How can I maintain my confidence and not second guess myself? What are they really looking for?
I'm going to be turning 36 in a couple of months. I can relate to the anxiety of being an old fart dating younger women. I keep waiting for myself to slam into that certain age where I can no longer date young, hot women, and it just isn't happening. This past fall, I dated a 19 year old - that's 16 years younger than me. I'm damn near old enough to be her dad. Did she care? NO. She got a kick out of poking fun at the age difference, and I find that's pretty common. They know they're dating an older guy, but they're having fun with it.

This past summer, I had a 23 year old nympho who would fvck me 4 times in one night (and once in the morning.) If I've learned anything, it's that dating and the sex has become MUCH better with my age. Then I'll get a run of women who are in their late 20s or early 30s which makes me wonder if I've hit that age. Then BAM, I get another run of young hotties.

I've found that it's really not all that difficult to attract younger women. Due to the society we currently live in, men in their early 20s are much more feminine than men in their 30s. A woman is going to be much more attracted to masculinity which makes it an easy win for men our age.

Even though I can still land women in the 19-21 age range, nothing beats the "sweet spot" for a woman's age (23-27). It's the perfect age where they've generally matured past the 'party' phase, but haven't yet entered the 'ticking biological clock' phase.
 

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Well It's inevitable with a large age gap that you will have some different interests to your girlfriend. she may still be into things that you have long grown out of, and you may have more adult interests that he hasn't discovered yet.
 

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Espi said:
I don't worry much about what I cannot control. All I know is that I feel like I wasted my twenties and half of my thirties worrying too much about what women think. I cannot change my age and I cannot control what they think about me.

I'm 42 and in great shape. Decent income; I drive a nice car; have little debt; no kids.

What's not to like about that? Could really care less what the younger women think.

No matter who you are or what you try to do in this life, some women will approve and some will not.

Dam the torpedoes; be happy with who you are.
I'm almost 26 and I feel I wasted my teens and the first half of my 20's, sometimes worry that I will not be able to date or attract a young early 20's, girl until i'm much older, would love to get some experience now but worried my current situation will prevent that from happening and will have to put my dating life and sex life on hold for a while because of what my situation currently is
 

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which is why I attended a boot camp this past august because I want to try very hard to get some experienced before I turn 30
 

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Luckily for women it doesn't matter if they have their life together or not, if they are young and cute and pretty then that's all they need in order to get a boyfriend or attract guys, so basically those girls didn't really need to work to earn anything, after all the world does not owe us a living, success is earned not given, so it's like girls do not need to earn a boyfriend or earn a guy but us guys do have to earn
 

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samspade said:
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/may-december-game/

Some good advice there.

Man I went out with a 23 year old last week. Had a great time. I just didn't worry about the outcome - I didn't care.
A bit off topic here, but how has your dating life been since you ended it with your wife? Are you finding your SMV to be at an all-time high as Rollo et al would lead you to believe?
 

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Espi said:
At 26 you're doing well just to be THINKING about the DJ mindset.

When I was 26, I had no freaking clue. No frame of reference whatsoever. There really was no PUA community that I knew of.

I challenge you to embrace the possibility that you CAN acquire the experiences you want WITHOUT sacrificing your dating and sex life.
Yeah because the situation I'm referring to that I'm in is that I still live at home and not in my career job yet, only a high school diploma, working a minimum wage job at the moment but only working that until I find something better, but I at least have a car, hopefully there are girls that don't mind me using hotels as a source for privacy
 

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Ya what's wrong with renting a hotel for a night of privacy for sex if you still live at home?
 

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Yeah just bringing that up because the common reason as to why many women are skeptical, reluctant to date a guy who lives at home is because of the privacy issue regarding sex, but the way I see it, what's wrong with getting a hotel for privacy?
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Anyone here know that if there are women out there that will overlook the fact that a guy still lives at home by a certain age? I'm almost 26 and I live at home, but I do have a job and a car at least, just asking if you know because I don't see anything wrong with getting a hotel for some privacy if you know what I mean when you are currently unable to afford living on your own at the moment
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
They feel like slvts going to a hotel. My GFs would rather bang me in my parents house with my parents home than go to a hotel. Once they get more comfortable and you sell it as a "nice" hotel they will go for it.
So you still live at home as well?
 

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49au said:
Now that I have crossed the line (no longer a twenty-something), I can already begin to feel a crippling sense of dread and anxiety: Can I really compete (and win) in the long term, against younger guys who are clamoring for their attention?
Absolutely. But you have to have what they don't, because they have what you don't. You are no longer young and trying to pretend you're young makes you look like a d@uche. Change your game.

49au said:
I also feel that women like this are going to give me a lot less slack. My game has to be tight at all times. Perhaps my assumption that women (especially women in early 20s) view a guy being 30+ as a downfall, so they are going to be a lot less forgiving if you are not solid in every single area.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You have to have the whole thing. Your 30's are where you get it together. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have dated much in my 30's -- I was married through my 30's but I wouldn't have been chasing tail anyway. Hitting my 40's with a house, a sexy job that women want to ask about, a nice car, a yacht, mad cooking skills, a life of my own -- hobbies, interests, season tickets to the symphony, civic involvement -- and being in shape, was the best thing I could have done. Guys in their 20's can't -- simply can't -- compete. If a girl is just looking for a quick hump from a disposable guy? Yeah, I'm out of luck. Some meathead Guido in his 20's is going to win her affection. Pick your battles.

49au said:
I have found myself riddled with anxiety about whether I should be behaving differently with her. Should I really continue to run the same C&F+aloof game I had at 25? Because if I do, then what is distinguishing me from an actual 25yo guy with less mileage?
Your station in life. That's the main difference as you get older. You will get your ass handed to you by a guy in his 20's who's at the same point in his life as you are in yours.

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What are they really looking for?
I touched on this before, but young women who go for older (I'm talking about much older; you're still young) men have decided to turn their backs on the idea that people should get married and build a life through struggle. It's not that they're purely materialistic, but the fact that you have a life already built, that they can step into, is a major turn-on. Young women these days are victims of instant gratification and MY CHILD IS A TERRIFIC KID bumper stickers. They don't want ten years of ****y apartments and entry-level jobs. 3 of my 4 FB's right now are under 30 -- one in college -- and I just had a ONS with a 27-year-old in D.C. where I was speaking at a conference. I have gray hair. Figure that one out.
 

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I don't see why using a hotel should make a girl feel like a slut it's not like I'm going to ditch her
 

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pierce_r said:
3 of my 4 FB's right now are under 30 -- one in college -- and I just had a ONS with a 27-year-old in D.C. where I was speaking at a conference. I have gray hair. Figure that one out.
How many posts like this do we have to read before guys get it figured out that age isn't that big of a deal to women? That said, it does pay to have your sh!t together. But by your 30s, you should have your sh!t together.
 

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I wish I lived at home... homecooked meals, don't have to pay rent, always somebody around... don't leave home for a broad!
 

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zekko said:
How many posts like this do we have to read before guys get it figured out that age isn't that big of a deal to women? That said, it does pay to have your sh!t together. But by your 30s, you should have your sh!t together.
You should at least be working on it in your 30's, and have a definite plan beyond working in a cubicle or driving a forklift until you die. In your 20's you can get away with dreaming big. In your 30's you'd better be making it happen and in your 40's or 50's you should be seeing some fruits of your labor.

Case in point: I'd had an idea for a book for decades, something I was interested in and that I toyed with for a very long time in my spare time -- it's what I now do for a living -- and only recently got a publishing contract to write the book. My agent has been great at getting excerpts and papers published as I'm working on this, and now he's got me speaking at conferences. Getting laid as a conference panelist is like shooting at the floor. You're surrounded by women who are interested in what you're interested in, and who see you as the expert. With you in that expert role, the age gap disappears.

I'm not saying you have to write a book to bang younger women; I'm saying if you have an idea, you need to go with it. If I'd done this 20 years ago I'd have had a completely different life: I'd have been my own man for 15 years, now, instead of 3.

I want to touch on the age gap, too.

Of my 4 FB's, only the one in college is attracted to me *because* she likes older guys. I think it's a rebellious thing, too, because her father and I belong to the same yacht club. (And I know for a fact she's keeping it on the DL. I'm her dirty little secret. Which is, you know, fine.)

- One is a fellow military officer in her early 30's (different service than me), a couple of grades below me. That blows away the age gap, because we have something in common that naturally puts me in an advanced position.

- Another is a girl in her late 20's who I met at the "big kids table" at a 10K, the corner of the beer garden where the serious competitors congregate. I completely destroyed guys much younger than me and proved -- with quantifiable data and social proof -- that my age was not a factor.

- The last one is a very casual thing with a 25-year-old Burning Man enthusiast I met at an office supply store who has t*ts like God incarnate and legs for miles and smells like vanilla all the time. I have no idea what she sees in me, except that I'm not the kind of guy who normally approaches her. She comes over for dinner sometimes. I cook, and she gives me massages and then bangs my brains out. I'm fairly certain she's stoned whenever she comes over. Hey, whatever. But I think that, in her case, her "free spirit" mentality puts physical satisfaction far above any kind of social correctness. I can work with that.

What I'm getting at is, you have to make the age gap not matter. To do that, you need to convince yourself that it doesn't matter, and then you'll have to meet women to whom the age gap doesn't matter.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
I dont but I used to. It doesnt matter if its logical, they dont like motels in particular. Im sure if you take them to a nice downtown motel they wouldnt mind it.
Just asking because I feel under pressure to get my **** together, I feel I'm gonna have to put my dating life and sex life on hold for a very long time until I get it together
 

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JaegerPilot217 said:
Just asking because I feel under pressure to get my **** together, I feel I'm gonna have to put my dating life and sex life on hold for a very long time until I get it together
Think of it as building equity.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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