Dealing with AMOGs and A-holes...

[squirrels]

Lately I've found that guys are getting more and more brazen about approaching a girl who's already talking to another guy. (me)

In the past, I've usually just ignored both the guy and the girl, found someone else to talk to, and the girl's made her way back to me. But lately, it seems that most women will just eject from the scene outright if too much of that crap starts happening. Or in the worst case, if she's actually INTO the other dude, I'll be ousted from the situation.

I really don't feel like fighting tools in a bar, even though I'm big enough to take 90% of them easily. But it doesn't seem to intimidate these guys like it used to.

What's a good way for the lion to chase hyenas off of his kill? I thought about just grabbing her hand and yanking her away to a different part of the bar ("come here a second, I wanna show you something.") so I can get a proper close and either extract or get digits. But suppose the OG is persistent and follows her, or she doesn't want to leave the immediate vicinity of her friends. What then?

 

[synergy1]

I really don't feel like fighting tools in a bar, even though I'm big enough to take 90% of them easily. But it doesn't seem to intimidate these guys like it used to.

Fighting and proving your worth through physical combat has been a dead art since the caveman days. Time to get with the times bud.

I find it best when it is you who controls the social dynamics of your group. It doesn't matter if you are approaching the group or if you are approached. These guys exist, so you have to be ready to deal with them. The best strategy i find is to engage them in conversation. If they are rushing to back out and only talk to the girls, they ruin the social dynamics of the group, and if they just talk to you they aren't talking to your girls!

The key is control. A few weekends ago I was out at a club with some girls, one of which I was in to. I knew she was in to me, and she was hot enough so other guys would try and dance with her. When I saw a situation where another guy would try and get , I simply moved the set. At one point, one of the bouncers started dancing with my chick and told me " the DJ doesn't want guys dancing on stage". He must have assumed I was intoxicated enough to try and pick a fight with him; a fight I would have easily lost with 10 bouncers on me. Rather I gave him a **** eating grin and let him try and pimp the chicks I was with. Of course she chased me all the way back home that night

Know when to pick your battles, when to abdicate power, and when just to do nothing.

 

[squirrels]

Well here's the thing...I usually roll solo. So there's no real "group" to control. I'll be out and run into a set of 2 or 3 girls where one will start showing interest, and just as I'm starting to get closer to her, one or more guys roll up out of nowhere and either muscle their way into the group by engaging the other girls or start trying to chat up my target.

The other night, I was watching these two girls dancing and these dudes kept trying to grind with them and they were having none of it. So later at the bar the one approaches me because she recognized me from high school. And her friend was starting to get all up on me. But then one of those two dudes comes over and keeps trying to pull the friend away, making it impossible for me to get her "in-state". I knew she wasn't really feeling him, so I went to take a p!ss, and when I got back, BOTH girls had bailed to get away from that dude.

It's a little bit tougher when you have to roll up into SETS of girls on your own because it gives the other dudes an angle to bust into your group by gaming up the other girls.

 

[mahon83050]

Lately I've found that guys are getting more and more brazen about approaching a girl who's already talking to another guy. (me)

In the past, I've usually just ignored both the guy and the girl, found someone else to talk to, and the girl's made her way back to me. But lately, it seems that most women will just eject from the scene outright if too much of that crap starts happening. Or in the worst case, if she's actually INTO the other dude, I'll be ousted from the situation.

I really don't feel like fighting tools in a bar, even though I'm big enough to take 90% of them easily. But it doesn't seem to intimidate these guys like it used to.

What's a good way for the lion to chase hyenas off of his kill? I thought about just grabbing her hand and yanking her away to a different part of the bar ("come here a second, I wanna show you something.") so I can get a proper close and either extract or get digits. But suppose the OG is persistent and follows her, or she doesn't want to leave the immediate vicinity of her friends. What then?

Although I have never been in your situation, this **** would piss me off. Not out of insecurity, but a LACK OF DISRESPECT. I think it is disrespectful for a man to hit on a woman in a bar/club etc when that man clearly knows she is with you. I certainly DON'T do it out of respect to my fellow man nor do I feel like getting sucker punched in the face if the guy is jealous.

Is your girlfriend super hot? I think a woman could be a 5-6 in a bar and still get guys hitting on her like flies on ****.

 

[squirrels]

Although I have never been in your situation, this **** would piss me off. Not out of insecurity, but a LACK OF DISRESPECT. I think it is disrespectful for a man to hit on a woman in a bar/club etc when that man clearly knows she is with you. I certainly DON'T do it out of respect to my fellow man nor do I feel like getting sucker punched in the face if the guy is jealous.

Is your girlfriend super hot? I think a woman could be a 5-6 in a bar and still get guys hitting on her like flies on ****.

Not my girlfriend. She's just a girl in the bar. I wouldn't take my girlfriend to a meat-market, and I think people who DO are idiots.

 

[DJDamage]

What's a good way for the lion to chase hyenas off of his kill?

Is this the way you view other men in a bar? because you are not better then they are. You are there in the bar to get pvssy and so are they. Every man is going to use tactics and strategies to get an edge and since ugly and average women outnumber hot women in a bar by a margain of 4-1 it is highly likely that the same women will be hit on multiple time through out the night by different guys. This is why a bar/club breeds competition in a closed environment.

The fact that you are there by yourself with the sole purpose of sarging in a bar causes the odds to be more stalked against you as opposed to other men who travel in groups. This is what it comes with the territory. Most immature men would rather see other men go home empty handed like they do then being successful and therefore will c0ckblock out of desperation. The right mindset is to go to a bar and have fun! going to a bar with the sole purpose to sarge and alianting everyone else there will breed hate and vegefulness among other bar customers.

Your best bet is to travel in groups in a bar (not only you will get social proof but your targets are less likely to run away from a group since the other members would ensure the conversation is more lively and fun plus deflect any intruders coming your way. You will also have more fun by actually interacting with people you know and not worry so much about the outcome). Your other choice is to try and meet women outside of bars and thus eliminate the forced competition all together. Otherwise accept the fact that from time to time those things will naturally occur and you will lose a meal or two to other predators.

 

[squirrels]

So your advice is to admit defeat? I appreciate it, but that's not my style.

 

[DJDamage]

So your advice is to admit defeat? I appreciate it, but that's not my style.

I think you are a bit dense and didn't really pay attention to what i was saying. How can one admit defeat if he can still get girls? it is a number game and if you can get your share then why complain on about something as trivial as this??! AMOG are the nuisance that can happen in life and from time to time you got to admit to yourself that a certain girl is not really digging you as you thought she did and maybe your game is not as strong as your ego. If a girl ejects from a sarging situation, pat yourself on the back for trying and go after another girl. It is much better approach and will better serve you then to try to blame an AMOG for it and using your energy to look for a way to go around it.

You can't win them all the time.

 

[Phyzzle]

On the other hand, Check out Tyler Durdin AMOG articles on Bristollair.

On the other, other hand, that stuff might get you into a fight. I think the one important thing DJDamage said was that you're going to have to give up on going to bars alone. I have. Only in small towns do I go alone.

 

[DJDamage]

I think the one important thing DJDamage said was that you're going to have to give up on going to bars alone.

Nope, never said that. What i said that you can increase your chances of AMOG not occuring if you go with a group. You are more then welcome to go alone and succeeding on your own terms.

 

[Bonhomme]

Upon giving this a little thought, I think the best thing to do is just calmly, but firmly ask the azzhole "Just what is your problem?"

Everyone knows it's socially unacceptable to barge in on an interaction between 2 people. It's kinda like dealing with a dog. Let 'em know in no uncertain terms they're out of their territory.

 

[Desdinova]

What's a good way for the lion to chase hyenas off of his kill?

I've never had a problem with the AMOGS or "A-holes" in the bars. First, I'm an A-hole already. Second, when a guy enters a convo I'm having with some woman, I don't stick up my fur like a cat who's space has been violated. That's the last thing I want to do. If anything, I go along with whatever he says and make him look stupid or boring if at all possible. If the guy insults me, I just go along with the insult and even play it up a bit. It makes him look like a dip5hit because of how badly it backfires which he's unprepared for. If you've got good wit, it's easy to pull off.

Most of the time, I don't worry about 5hit like that though. There's too many AFCs out there to worry about guys stealing your woman. If you're more interesting than most other guys, then you have nothing to worry about. If you're lots of fun and can make the woman feel something, the other guy is going to be boring as hell. Even if the guy manages to "win over" the chick, who fvcking cares? There's tons of women out there! If you're confident and you know you're damn good (or will soon be damn good) at picking up women, you'll have no problems getting another one.

 

[jonwon]

There are plenty of women about no need to lower yourself to coc* fights over some puss*.

Move on or ignore the guy, as soon has you let him get to you, your nothing but another monkey jumping through hoops in the hope of scoring puss*!

Sorry but if she entertains other men whilst i am talking to her, well that competition is not what i am there for, i will give her about 2mins to brush the other guy off, if she does not, i show my 'quality' and leave, plenty more girls!

GL to them, dont be a slave to ming*, that path will only bring problems.

Women i would only entertain would not allow me to get into a postion of amog or having to amog some-one anyway, if she does not dig me from the start or loves the attention of other men whilst i am chatting her up, sorry but this tells me alot about the girl.

Most amog situations anyway from what i see turn out where the women is in fact in charge and loves the attention, just two smucks competing with puss* like slavering puss* whipped slaves, competing to get the 'prize', sod that i'd rather have a wank!

Also it IS A NUMBERS GAME, all this seduction Bull crap means nothing when you realize its only a matter of time, till one will say yes, its inevitable!

Amog, e.t.c or trying to AMOG others seems too much like 'who's got the biggest coc*' type situations, far too much validation and attention for the girl, seeing two men compete for her.

On the other hand if she was my date or a GF, granted. But then i would reframe it to see her actions, if shes the type of girl who entertains every man who gives her attention, trust me i aint sticking around, far too much drama.

I prefer a girl who states:

'I have a BF'

If the guys persists:

'I am not interested'

If a girl i am dating does not state those things, eventually she will be cut off.

nothing worse then going out with a girl to find the 10th chump chatting her up whilst you go to the bar, come back and there still there, where she is enteraining said chump, when YOU KNOW she is only doing it to fill her selfish bottomless need for ATTENTION from YOU and from said CHUMPS, these women need a MAN castration i.e cut them out and let some other CHUMP AMOG!

you need to realize being single is the greatest freedom you can have, has soon has you embrace this concept fully, you will never suplicate to puss*, especcially some starnger in a bar who is entertaining every man that gives her attention.

These PUA or so called experts seem nothing but monkeys with tricks who are simply slaves to puss*, hence there so called perfection for scoring the opposite sex seems to me a big myth. Amog seems good on paper, but all your doing is bending to your puss* master when all is said and done, if she entertains that cra*, i wont be entertaining her, no matter how many chumps seem to think i should 'amog'.

Women are in abundance, there are shi* loads of them, you can never ever sleep with them all, AMOG was invented for AW has far has i am concerned, other women will either say no, brush you off or not entertain 2 men competing with her.

What's next bar room brawls? winner (or in the case of AMOG logic) loser takes the girl!

Move on chase other girls, let her come and find you and show her your far too 'quality' to jump through hoops or sacrific yourself for the puss* MASTER.

 

[mahon83050]

What is an AMOG?

 

[Aenigma]

What is an AMOG?

Alpha male of group. It's also a verb that means to establish dominance in a social setting- hence you become the Alpha male of group.

 

[mahon83050]

If someone rolls into your set and you feel threatened, then you need to work on your insecurities.

I've had guys come into my sets before and I'll talk to them along with the girls. The trick is to bring more energy to the group then the AMOGS. If you do things right, you can get the AMOG to seek validation from you. If you can't even do that, make great jokes and leave on an attraction spike. The girls will miss you and that's all you will ever need.

Christ. I sure as hope every guy (when he hangs out without other dudes) is NOT constantly saying, "I gotta be the alpha, I have to dominate the others."

We are humans and need to treat each other with respect, not be a bunch of animals with one another and always try and dominate other males.

 

[Interceptor]

Actually it means Alpha Male OTHER GUY.
Meaning, the other AM "challenging " you in your territory.

 

[edger]

Also it IS A NUMBERS GAME, all this seduction Bull crap means nothing when you realize its only a matter of time, till one will say yes, its inevitable!

Yeah, sometimes I'm convinced of the same, despite how I always post about how "It's all about your game", especially since seeing what appears to be so many AFC's(young and old) hooking up with hotties, and also getting into relationships with them, as well as marrying them. It confuses me a lot, after all that's said around here.

One thing stands for sure though as 100% truth..it is MUCH, MUCH easier for women to hook up(especially if she's attractive), than it is for men.

 

[Slickster]

Here ya go. Dug this up from WAAAAY back

AMOG DESTROYERS (by Tyler Durden)

The easy way to handle any alpha is to be polite to him, but act disinterested by his rap/accomplishments using tonality/body language (without coming off as patronizing/sarcastic) while simultaneously being charming to others around you. This will drop his perceived value and cause him to qualify himself to try and raise it back up. He can't fight you or do **** like that, and he can't move to insults, because you've been polite and in doing so he would be making himself look VERY BAD. The only tactic vs this is to walk away. If you reward him just enough to encourage further qualifying but not enough to make him feel validated again he will fall into line as beta in relation to you. I blow out rich men in power outfits, top ranking professors in schools, 300lb bouncers, police officers and gangers ALL THE TIME. This **** works - if you do it right they will work VERY HARD to be your friend.


Ultra quick and effective AMOG destroyer

This is just like the JAP Busting stuff, where you say "you're cool", as a way of tricking him to qualify himself to you.

He's stuck, because if he DOES do well, he's qualified himself to you. If he doesn't, he's failed to. The only answer he would have would be to say back to you "hey now, you're cool.. I didn't mean to step on your toes man.. You're a smart guy, keep talking to her and I'll watch and learn man!"..
Of course to that, you could reply, "You just met me and you already say I'm smart and cool? hahah"


More AMOG destroyer

AMOG: How do you guys know eachother?
PUA: Her? I ****ed her.
(Girl will go "aaaaaaaaah... hahahahah, I did NOT!!! But she'll hit you and be giggling and start crawling all over you...).

AMOG: Hey, this is a nice girl.
PUA: Her.. she's a slut..
(Again, girl will start going "nooooo!" while giggling her ass off and crawling on you.. this is very deflating to the guy trying to cut in)

AMOG: Hey girls whats up (or whatever)
PUA: Hey dude dude (putting hands up like you give up).. I will pay you a HUNDRED dollars right now, to take these girls away from me.
(Girls will go "no no no... we love you PUA.. noooooo" and giggle and crawl on you.. Again, immediately deflating to the guy)

AMOG: Hey girls what's up (or whatever)
PUA: Dude, OMG that shirt is AWESOME.. I had one just like it in highschool, it ****ing rocks man.. Having a good time in London man.. It's awesome huh? Dude you're like the coolest guy I met all night.. (patting him on the shoulder)..

AMOG: (showing signs that he wants to fight)
PUA: hahah, dude, are you like trying to pick a fight with me? hahahha.. ok ok hold up hold up.. wait a sec, we'll do even better.. first... we'll have an armwrestling competition.. then second.. we'll do one armed pushups.. and last..... POSE-DOWN!!

(then you start flexing and go "ladies?", and they start saying how you're so strong, and the AMOG looks like a tool.. you're tooling him, by making him seem like he's trying too hard to impress the girls by showing them superiority).

AMOG: Hey man.. keep talking.. no no, let's hear your pitch man.. pick these girls up man, you're doing awesome.
PUA: Hey, you know I've gotta try to impress you COOL (x-city, x-dressed, x-whateverquality) guys.. You guys ****ing ROCK.
(cut him down on whatever limited amount of knowledge you have of him, even if its not relevant whatsoever, he'll feel uncomfortable and his bodylanguage will show it)

AMOG: (starts touching you to show dominance)
PUA: hahhaha, DUUUUDE, I'm not into guys man... dude, there's club-gay-whatever over there man.. hands off the merchandise buddy
(girls laugh at him, then he starts qualifying himself to you that he's not gay)

AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: (don't answer.. just SIT there quiet.. the more he says stuff to you, the more he's TRYING.. talking too long without an answer is QUALIFYING yourself.. so if he keeps trying to out-alpha you, and you don't answer, eventually he looks beta because he tried too hard to get your attention.. another trick is to make "let's get out of here" girlcode with your eyes to the girls (mimmick what they do to eachother when you do a bad set), and they'll leave with you)

AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: dude, you're an alphamale..
AMOG: what's that..
PUA: you know, like the leader of the pack.. you call the shots.. you can put your hands on guys you don't know, cause you're alpha..
(****s up his whole 'look cool' game, because you've characterized all his manneurisms, so anything he does to look alpha makes him appear to be qualifying himself too you.. if he continues, just say "see... alphamale.. whoa tiger, I can't mess")

PUA: dude, you're like Bart Simpson all grown up.. (for guys who pull the college-guy type out alpha on you)

PUA: dude, you're like the Joan Rivers of the club.. I love all the little comments and ****.. (to imply like he does nothing but sits on the sidelines making comments but doesn't take action, so use this on guys who have that characteristic in the club venue)

PUA: That was really good man, you're like a comedian.

OR, if the dude is out-alpha'ing you, keep going until he's TOO into it, and then let him do a bunch of condescending **** on you in a row. Look at the girls like you're bored or sad, and because he's talking TOO MUCH he's therefore qualifying himself to you and losing. Then say to the girls "he's playing the condescention game.. I already won so I stopped now.. who do you guys think won, me or him?" (key is that you looked SAD so the girls start going "awww, he's so sweet", so they'll say you won because they love you now)
For super aggressive AMOGs who try to pick fights

AMOG: blah blah..
PUA: Dude, are you pissed that you're rolling with all guys?

AMOG: blah blah
PUA: dude, your all guy crew is so slick man.. where are your girls dude, what happened tonight?

AMOG: let's go outside..
PUA: guy man, I'm with chicks right now.. I'M INTO CHICKS.. I can't get into this experimental kinky **** with you right now, I have my hands full.. (misinterpreting that he was trying to sleep with you, not fight you)

AMOG: blah blah..
PUA: dude, that shirt rocks.. Tommy Hilfiger.. awesome.. man, back in highschool I used to have the one with like all these cool stripes on it.. it was awesome..

AMOG: fight blah blah..
PUA: guy man, these chicks just told me that they dig you like so bad.. you don't have to fight to prove yourself to them.. they think you're an alphamale dude.. you don't need to try so HARD man.. just BE REAL..

Once you get the guy to qualify himself to you in any way (like he tries to make friends), rather than being nice, IMMEDIATELY cut him out of the circle. Just cut him out. You'll notice trying to SHUT YOUR GAME DOWN by bombarding you with logical questions. They'll start pummeling you with logical stuff, so that you have to answer him the girls fall out of state. For me I found the solution was just to say "hey man, don't get all scientific on me.. we're here to have fun.." and then immediately start gaming the girls again. btw, if I'm out with any of my GFs at a club, and another guy hits on them, I use the same tactics on AMOGS to stop them.

When you cut him out of the circle, he'll either leave (too deflated), or he'll try to grab your shoulder and say something like "don't turn your back on me". From there, the girls think he's creepy, so you say "hey guys, this dude is creepy.. are you friends with this guy?? did YOU bring this guy here?" The girls will say "no no no, we don't know him", and you say "OK, let's get out of here", and put out your arms for them to grab.

Then walk away with the girls on your arms, and if you want (I do this alot) turn around and have them both kiss you on the cheek and wave the AMOG goodbye.

Also, you can USE the AMOG's WORK for yourself. Like he lines 'em up, you knock 'em down.
This is something I do alot. I let a guy pick a girl up and increase her buying temperature, then I go in and outalpha him, say he's creepy to the girls, and then remove them from him.

The girls are already aroused, so they are still in state based on what the AMOG did. I can do this like maybe on 90% of sets I approach where a natural AMOG has gotten far with a girl. I think a dude I know "Stephane" recently posted about this on Cliff's List regarding a sarge we did.
Basically, I just make the friends of the girl who is getting gamed on by the AMOG like me. Like, they want me, but they know they're not qualified but their friend is.

Then I say "Hey I want to meet your friend so much, but that touchy grabby lean in guy is all over her.. is she just being nice, or does she really like guys who lean in and touch and do all the 'whats your name' fake ungenuine stuff?"
The UGs are invariably like "no no, we hate guys like that.. that's why we love you so much blah blah", and then you get the FRIENDS to literally REMOVE the hottie that you want from the AMOG who is conveniently heating her up for you and saving you the hassle.

Most of the time, the AMOG feels immediately beta after such a line!

Hey AMOG, what's up? Are u ill today? You look sick!

Hey AMOG, you look/talk/act strange, do you take drugs?

Hey AMOG, your clothes are really strange!

Hey AMOG, i talked to some people here...
They don't like you, because you seem strange!

Hey you seem tired!

TD

 

[Slickster]

Here ya go. Dug this up from WAAAAY back

AMOG DESTROYERS (by Tyler Durden)

The easy way to handle any alpha is to be polite to him, but act disinterested by his rap/accomplishments using tonality/body language (without coming off as patronizing/sarcastic) while simultaneously being charming to others around you. This will drop his perceived value and cause him to qualify himself to try and raise it back up. He can't fight you or do **** like that, and he can't move to insults, because you've been polite and in doing so he would be making himself look VERY BAD. The only tactic vs this is to walk away. If you reward him just enough to encourage further qualifying but not enough to make him feel validated again he will fall into line as beta in relation to you. I blow out rich men in power outfits, top ranking professors in schools, 300lb bouncers, police officers and gangers ALL THE TIME. This **** works - if you do it right they will work VERY HARD to be your friend.


Ultra quick and effective AMOG destroyer

You say "you're cool", as a way of tricking him to qualify himself to you.

He's stuck, because if he DOES do well, he's qualified himself to you. If he doesn't, he's failed to. The only answer he would have would be to say back to you "hey now, you're cool.. I didn't mean to step on your toes man.. You're a smart guy, keep talking to her and I'll watch and learn man!"..
Of course to that, you could reply, "You just met me and you already say I'm smart and cool? hahah"


More AMOG destroyer

AMOG: How do you guys know eachother?
PUA: Her? I ****ed her.
(Girl will go "aaaaaaaaah... hahahahah, I did NOT!!! But she'll hit you and be giggling and start crawling all over you...).

AMOG: Hey, this is a nice girl.
PUA: Her.. she's a slut..
(Again, girl will start going "nooooo!" while giggling her ass off and crawling on you.. this is very deflating to the guy trying to cut in)

AMOG: Hey girls whats up (or whatever)
PUA: Hey dude dude (putting hands up like you give up).. I will pay you a HUNDRED dollars right now, to take these girls away from me.
(Girls will go "no no no... we love you PUA.. noooooo" and giggle and crawl on you.. Again, immediately deflating to the guy)

AMOG: Hey girls what's up (or whatever)
PUA: Dude, OMG that shirt is AWESOME.. I had one just like it in highschool, it ****ing rocks man.. Having a good time in London man.. It's awesome huh? Dude you're like the coolest guy I met all night.. (patting him on the shoulder)..

AMOG: (showing signs that he wants to fight)
PUA: hahah, dude, are you like trying to pick a fight with me? hahahha.. ok ok hold up hold up.. wait a sec, we'll do even better.. first... we'll have an armwrestling competition.. then second.. we'll do one armed pushups.. and last..... POSE-DOWN!!

(then you start flexing and go "ladies?", and they start saying how you're so strong, and the AMOG looks like a tool.. you're tooling him, by making him seem like he's trying too hard to impress the girls by showing them superiority).

AMOG: Hey man.. keep talking.. no no, let's hear your pitch man.. pick these girls up man, you're doing awesome.
PUA: Hey, you know I've gotta try to impress you COOL (x-city, x-dressed, x-whateverquality) guys.. You guys ****ing ROCK.
(cut him down on whatever limited amount of knowledge you have of him, even if its not relevant whatsoever, he'll feel uncomfortable and his bodylanguage will show it)

AMOG: (starts touching you to show dominance)
PUA: hahhaha, DUUUUDE, I'm not into guys man... dude, there's club-gay-whatever over there man.. hands off the merchandise buddy
(girls laugh at him, then he starts qualifying himself to you that he's not gay)

AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: (don't answer.. just SIT there quiet.. the more he says stuff to you, the more he's TRYING.. talking too long without an answer is QUALIFYING yourself.. so if he keeps trying to out-alpha you, and you don't answer, eventually he looks beta because he tried too hard to get your attention.. another trick is to make "let's get out of here" girlcode with your eyes to the girls (mimmick what they do to eachother when you do a bad set), and they'll leave with you)

AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: dude, you're an alphamale..
AMOG: what's that..
PUA: you know, like the leader of the pack.. you call the shots.. you can put your hands on guys you don't know, cause you're alpha..
(****s up his whole 'look cool' game, because you've characterized all his manneurisms, so anything he does to look alpha makes him appear to be qualifying himself too you.. if he continues, just say "see... alphamale.. whoa tiger, I can't mess")

PUA: dude, you're like Bart Simpson all grown up.. (for guys who pull the college-guy type out alpha on you)

PUA: dude, you're like the Joan Rivers of the club.. I love all the little comments and ****.. (to imply like he does nothing but sits on the sidelines making comments but doesn't take action, so use this on guys who have that characteristic in the club venue)

PUA: That was really good man, you're like a comedian.

OR, if the dude is out-alpha'ing you, keep going until he's TOO into it, and then let him do a bunch of condescending **** on you in a row. Look at the girls like you're bored or sad, and because he's talking TOO MUCH he's therefore qualifying himself to you and losing. Then say to the girls "he's playing the condescention game.. I already won so I stopped now.. who do you guys think won, me or him?" (key is that you looked SAD so the girls start going "awww, he's so sweet", so they'll say you won because they love you now)
For super aggressive AMOGs who try to pick fights

AMOG: blah blah..
PUA: Dude, are you pissed that you're rolling with all guys?

AMOG: blah blah
PUA: dude, your all guy crew is so slick man.. where are your girls dude, what happened tonight?

AMOG: let's go outside..
PUA: guy man, I'm with chicks right now.. I'M INTO CHICKS.. I can't get into this experimental kinky **** with you right now, I have my hands full.. (misinterpreting that he was trying to sleep with you, not fight you)

AMOG: blah blah..
PUA: dude, that shirt rocks.. Tommy Hilfiger.. awesome.. man, back in highschool I used to have the one with like all these cool stripes on it.. it was awesome..

AMOG: fight blah blah..
PUA: guy man, these chicks just told me that they dig you like so bad.. you don't have to fight to prove yourself to them.. they think you're an alphamale dude.. you don't need to try so HARD man.. just BE REAL..

Once you get the guy to qualify himself to you in any way (like he tries to make friends), rather than being nice, IMMEDIATELY cut him out of the circle. Just cut him out. You'll notice trying to SHUT YOUR GAME DOWN by bombarding you with logical questions. They'll start pummeling you with logical stuff, so that you have to answer him the girls fall out of state. For me I found the solution was just to say "hey man, don't get all scientific on me.. we're here to have fun.." and then immediately start gaming the girls again. btw, if I'm out with any of my GFs at a club, and another guy hits on them, I use the same tactics on AMOGS to stop them.

When you cut him out of the circle, he'll either leave (too deflated), or he'll try to grab your shoulder and say something like "don't turn your back on me". From there, the girls think he's creepy, so you say "hey guys, this dude is creepy.. are you friends with this guy?? did YOU bring this guy here?" The girls will say "no no no, we don't know him", and you say "OK, let's get out of here", and put out your arms for them to grab.

Then walk away with the girls on your arms, and if you want (I do this alot) turn around and have them both kiss you on the cheek and wave the AMOG goodbye.

Also, you can USE the AMOG's WORK for yourself. Like he lines 'em up, you knock 'em down.
This is something I do alot. I let a guy pick a girl up and increase her buying temperature, then I go in and outalpha him, say he's creepy to the girls, and then remove them from him.

The girls are already aroused, so they are still in state based on what the AMOG did. I can do this like maybe on 90% of sets I approach where a natural AMOG has gotten far with a girl. I think a dude I know "Stephane" recently posted about this on Cliff's List regarding a sarge we did.
Basically, I just make the friends of the girl who is getting gamed on by the AMOG like me. Like, they want me, but they know they're not qualified but their friend is.

Then I say "Hey I want to meet your friend so much, but that touchy grabby lean in guy is all over her.. is she just being nice, or does she really like guys who lean in and touch and do all the 'whats your name' fake ungenuine stuff?"
The UGs are invariably like "no no, we hate guys like that.. that's why we love you so much blah blah", and then you get the FRIENDS to literally REMOVE the hottie that you want from the AMOG who is conveniently heating her up for you and saving you the hassle.

Most of the time, the AMOG feels immediately beta after such a line!

Hey AMOG, what's up? Are u ill today? You look sick!

Hey AMOG, you look/talk/act strange, do you take drugs?

Hey AMOG, your clothes are really strange!

Hey AMOG, i talked to some people here...
They don't like you, because you seem strange!

Hey you seem tired!

TD

Admittedtly some of these might get your arse kicked.

I've personally used the one where a guy approached me and a couple chicks I was talking to. I guess one of them was his gf. He got all tough-like and said something like "What's going on here?" I responded with "Dude am I ever glad you're here! These chicks are f*cking crazy! Get me outta here! Fawk!"

The chicks all had a big laugh and found me later on and told me all about how much of a hot head idiot the other guy was.

Out alpha those f*ckers!