David deangelo (aka Mark Matthews)

[tenzo]

Hey guys,

I always thought that david deangelo was a faker.. and it was proven to be right:
http://www.catchhimandkeephim.com/

This time he teaches women how to keep men attracted to them and use the same stuff that he taught us on us, he's now called Mark Matthews and he's in the business of finilazing an ebook, also called Catch Him and Keep Him.

he's playing on two sides now.. I'm really disappointed

 

[tmpgstx]

Most anybody should or would've known this. His e-mails are even templated and repetitive. His stuff works to a point but only on club flakes as it attacks their insecurities. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. You can either do that or stroke their fragile ego by telling them they're beautiful or have such soft skin. It depends on the woman and what she is craving.

In terms of attraction, if the girl really likes you - you can do pretty much anything so long as it doesn't turn her off completely.

 

[Criminal Mind]

Money makes the world go round. If there's an audience, then there you go.

 

[Social Engineering]

Wow so hard to keep a guy...

Suck a good di*ck... swallow, sex on demand, cook, clean, worship him. Be a little lower then his equal. Want nothing in return.

K please mail me my $19.95 now.. thanks

Woman are way more complex. Guys... easy.

 

[goatman]

Woman are way more complex. Guys... easy.

Yeah pretty much but i think his audience would be more for unatractive women or as was stated earlier women with low ES.

But im not gona criticize him to much cause maybe (JUST maybe) he is doing it to hlp ppl out while making.....a little.....money on side and.......jus wants to change his name around as not to confuse ppl about the different programs he has.

Ahhh...bugger it......guess im only sticking up for em because it was his material which eventually led me to this website.

 

[organizedconfusion]

$hit, i'll order one..this way i'll know how to spot her
tricks when i see them
way to go DD!

i would'nt mind if a girl actually went out of her way to
go through all the trouble- just to keep me.

 

[Criminal Mind]

Or maybe, just maybe, there might be the same possibility that girls have the same insecurities as us, but we're just more foolish.

 

[Social Engineering]

Originally posted by goatman
Yeah pretty much but i think his audience would be more for unatractive women or as was stated earlier women with low ES.

But im not gona criticize him to much cause maybe (JUST maybe) he is doing it to hlp ppl out while making.....a little.....money on side and.......jus wants to change his name around as not to confuse ppl about the different programs he has.

Ahhh...bugger it......guess im only sticking up for em because it was his material which eventually led me to this website.

The problem is... guys are visual creatures... woman more emotional you can almost talk your way into her panties and still be a fat retard...

guys.. i dont care how much game a girl has.. If shes a fuking beast good luck... This is why men get off on porn and prefer to look. We like what we see. No amount of talking as a fatty will get you far with men or keep them. But im sure he will make a few bucks.

 

[goatman]

Decided to have a look at the site (OUT of CURIOSITY so don't worry fellas).

"The main PROBLEM here, and the thing that stood in your way, is that men aren't easy to understand. And when you find a good man, he doesn't come with an "instruction manual".

Just because your girlfriends told you it wasn't your fault, or that he was just "a jerk", doesn't mean that they understood the problem (or that they understand men at all, for that matter).

Most women don't "get" men. Your friends who try to comfort and encourage you have good intentions. They're just trying to make you feel better."


Is it really possible that women really are having some of the same problems as us?

 

[goatman]

guys.. i dont care how much game a girl has.. If shes a fuking beast good luck... This is why men get off on porn and prefer to look. We like what we see. No amount of talking as a fatty will get you far with men or keep them

I'd say that's right but it depends.

If it's ONS ur looking for then i'd say that this pretty much sums it up but as for LTR (as for marrage material)....well if she has a good personality and has game then we jus might just look over a thing or two.

 

[Social Engineering]

A sever case of ugly and 200 lbs is prob a little hard for me to "look over"... it might work for the avg girl to an extent but when im out and an average or decent girl is throwing me game.. i tend to look it over and next before i even give her a chance. Its just the nature of the beast. We are men.

When it comes to marriage material etc... alot fail because there partner just let it all go after marriage. Sh*t happens. But i dont see the same or even similar concepts working for woman to us. I could write an amazing book for femals and it would be less then a page long.

Chapter one: Get your fat ass in the gym.

 

[Social Engineering]

Who I'd like to meet:
Everyone sits there and tells you about there perfect match. The thing is that there is no such thing. You can want someone that is six feet with blue eyes and bloond hair, you can find that, I know I did and then he turns out to be the biggest ass hole you have ever meet. You don't find out tell after you have been maried . So insteed of telling you what i want i'm going to tell you what I don't want.Someone that is fake. some one that looks matter to. If you were to look at some of the people that i dated then you would see that it dose not matter it's what's inside instead. Someone that's afraid to take chances in life. And cares what there friends think of ther girls. Someone could be the uglest person in the world but they can make up for it in there personality.

Saw this on some girls myspace. I laughed. She should buy this book. I looked at her pics and shook my head.

 

[Don 'Ron]

I don't mind the fact that Mr. DeAngelo Matthews is helping both sides of the fence. I think some women need as much help understanding guys as we do understanding women, and since we all know that women give advice that usually ends up being unhelpful in relationships, it's probably better for them to listen to a guy instead. Because guys' brains are more analytical, it makes sense that a guy who is good at explaining to other guys the logistics behind how women think would also be able to explain how and why guys react the way they do when girls act a certain way. Besides, even if not all of his advice is accurate and he is getting paid for it, he is still trying to help people. Criticise him if you want, but he's probably helped a whole lot more guys improve their game than WE have, so why not help the girls out too??

-Don 'Ron

 

[Skydiver43127]

I'm actually excited by the idea DeAngelo decided to play both sides of the game. I was looking forward to relating this advice to some of my female friends (not because I'm some boyscout, but because them being more desirable would make ME more desirable)

However, I'm really apalled by the type of crappy BS he has written. I mean, his advice can be summed up in three directions:
1) be smart, not stupid - no argument on that
2) don't be too emotional - bad advice, men are naturally attracted to emotional chicks
3) develop onetis in the man - now, this advice sucks on many levels:
- this is not congruent with advice 2
- this is what chicks do from the beginning of time. Most "great" men, as he modestly calls himself, have defensive mechanisms against that

Well, that was actually to be expected - I mean, how many MEN has he dated? Pity for the chicks, though.

 

[Criminal Mind]

I think you've hit on a pretty good point skydiver, there's an empty market there for a female to fill... however, I wonder if females would eat up all this like males would.

 

[Holland]

Why are you dissapointed. He's improving everyones game. I know he sure helped me, so I don't see why he shouldn't help women.

 

[tenzo]

I don't know why I'm actually disappointed maybe it's because he turned out to be a faker but I already figured that out a long time ago.

but anyways after giving some thought into it, it might be a good thing, as in balancing, because seduction communities have gone public you know as Ross Jefferies and mystery appeared in magazines, and neil strautess (sp?) in the view in TV, and it might ruin our game, and I even remember reading a field report where a women blew this guy off by telling him that his moves sounds like the ones they give in seminars with dating gurus and such, so I guess DD (or should I say MM) did another good thing for us, and come to think of it, it might be a good neg hit for women

 

[I'm Joe Dirt]

Where's the proof that this is the same guy? I see no references to double your dating or david deangelo on that site. For all we know Mark Matthews could be someone else who just copied David DeAngelo's business model.

Am I missing something? Where's the proof theyre one and the same?

 

[Julian]

cant knock his hustle

 

[ScrewIt]

even if he does make a guide for women, i doubt it'll work. First off men rate a women's beauty higher than women rate men. So without looks for the woman, most of this B.S. advice that he makes for women probably wouldnt work.

However for the guy's department he's more successful because an average looking or fat guy can learn how to create attraction in women.

Surprisingly, there are a good amount of women out there who know about David deangelo and his guides for men. I think he's just trying to expand on getting his name out there. who doesnt want easy money?