Dating in The Dark Reality TV Show - Absolutely ridiculous!

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Not sure if this show is aired on US and North American TV, but I've just been watching it. I really really have an aversion towards going back on dead horses here, but looks do matter, Yes, I'm talking about you're face. Period. :rock:

Basically the shows about three men and three women that are sequestered in separate wings of a house, unable to have any conversation or contact with the opposite sex unless in the dark room. Initially, all six contestants have a group date in which they all sit at a table in the dark room exchanging names and getting to know one another's voices and personality types. After this date, each person can go on one-on-one dates with person(s) they want to know more about. One-on-one dates are also held in the dark room. They do this by "messaging" the other person via a computer.

Toward the end of the show, each person can pick one other that they would like to see in the light. This is done in the dark room with the two contestants standing at opposite ends; one contestant is shown to the other for the first time and vice versa. While being shown in the light, the person sees the other person, thus being able to see his/her reaction. During this process the couple must remain silent.

So, throughout the episode. This HB9 was playing push and pull with the guy who wasn't so good-looking, probably above average at best. Well dressed etc. She loved his personality, couldn't wait to see his LOOKS. Eventually, the light was shon over him, she started scringing and holding her head in shock. This is the same HB9 who kissed him in the dark? She also admitted to being shallow and that looks DO MATTER.

Not only her, but several other girls had similiar reactions towards the guys in this episode. So, in a nutshell, the contestants had weeks on end to get to know eahcother in the dark, all went well until the lights came on. I had to swallow some spit for one of the guys as one of the HB9's he wanted to see packed her things and left.

Please Google or You Tube this show before you start a tsunami tidal wave of Looks Do/Don't Matter.
 

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human beings are superficial creatures & have always been...all the personality in the world won't help if she's not physically attracted to you.
 

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To me, that show sounds like it kinda stacks the deck against an average-looking guy. Because they are sequestered in a house and you don't see the other person for a while, you basically are putting the guy in direct competition with the girls version of the "perfect" guy. You're doing well, she's into you, and she's basically imagining you looking like Brad Pitt. Once you are revealed and you look like Jim Carrey, she's put off. In the real world, you may be behind because of you're looks, but your game can improve your chances.
 

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the show works both ways tho ive seen more men walk away after the light reveal
 

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HeyPachuco! said:
Not sure if this show is aired on US and North American TV, but I've just been watching it. I really really have an aversion towards going back on dead horses here, but looks do matter, Yes, I'm talking about you're face. Period. :rock:
Has it really come to this? You people are now citing reality television programs as supposed "evidence" for the whole crusade against Darwin? Let me tell you something, before Paradox closes this thread just like it should be. Reality TV? Scripted. Yeah, I said it. It's hard to accept at first, but ALL of your reality TV shows are no more real than Seinfeld, CSI, or 24.

Sometimes the producers will say things like, "Ok, let's reshoot that but Spencer? Be a little bit more of a jackass this time." or "Kristin, we're going to have to do another take. You didn't come across as enough of a slut." And other times there will be actual scripts, in which there are actual lines, which the "real people" will have to actually memorize.

Give me a break. I feel like I'm telling a kid that there's no Santa Claus.

teacha said:
human beings are superficial creatures & have always been...all the personality in the world won't help if she's not physically attracted to you.
That's not what Pook says. Or what Mystery, David DeAngelo, Style or Tyler Durden says. That's not what Charles Darwin says...hell, come to think of it. NOBODY who actually knows what they're talking about says something like that. So there's obviously something amiss, here.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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HeyPachuco! said:
She loved his personality, couldn't wait to see his LOOKS. Eventually, the light was shon over him, she started scringing and holding her head in shock. This is the same HB9 who kissed him in the dark? She also admitted to being shallow and that looks DO MATTER.

Not only her, but several other girls had similiar reactions towards the guys in this episode.

The highlighted part is key here. Everyone thinks differently and for some people looks matter alot and for a variety of reasons. This girl basically admitted she is shallow. No lose to the guy.


Usually what happens there too is the women build the men up in their minds into something they're not and naturally they can't hold in the disappointment when they see the face.
 

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Just a Shot Away said:
Has it really come to this? You people are now citing reality television programs as supposed "evidence" for the whole crusade against Darwin? Let me tell you something.

That's not what Charles Darwin says...
Most anticipated reply I was waiting for :crackup: How did I know you would say this exact samething, are you sure you don't have a pop-up for looks matter/don't matter threads dude? I usually partially agree with alot of what you say her Just A Shot Away and I agree that most commercial reality shows near enough are scripted. Fair.

However, I don't believe this show was. I feel it's more like a mini-Big Brother, where the audience get to see the REAL personalities of it's contestants. No scripts, no lines. Have you seen any episodes of the show? You can tell most of it isn't scripted, just by the gutted look of the guys who got rejected.

In cliffnotes, it's about making connections and attraction WITHOUT seeing the opposite sex, once they have wined and dined, they get to choose who is most attractive to them, just by voice, tonality, personality and attraction - NOT VIEWING LOOKS YET. From what I've seen, most of the guys who got picked by the hotter women and even the ugly plain jane's where the better looking men. PERIOD.

So dude, the only scripted thing about it was ONE guy not being single and just wanted some spotlight exposure who was already in an LTR. There are testimonials of the contestants who had been rejected, the couples that did get together who gave there reports on the aftermath etc.

Why was this the case? If it were so scripted, why didn't majority of the average guys get picked by the hot women, even upon having attractive characteristics and personalities in the first place?

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Usually what happens there too is the women build the men up in their minds into something they're not and naturally they can't hold in the disappointment when they see the face.
So I guess, that means looks matter? One girl even started crying because she was shocked at how she was attracted to one contestant, but when eventually seeing him, was disappointed not only in his looks, but the way her percieved knowledge of looks matter weighed more than the personality in the end.
 

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slaog said:
The highlighted part is key here. Everyone thinks differently and for some people looks matter alot and for a variety of reasons. This girl basically admitted she is shallow. No lose to the guy.
Charlize Theron admitted she was gay in "Monster." Some people just have this kind of lifestyle, you know? We can't judge Ms. Theron for her choice...no loss to guys out there.

Same thing in "The Matrix", where Neo had to make the ultimate choice. Some people just have different priorities, and Neo made his clear. These kinds of choices are made for a variety of reasons.

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Most anticipated reply I was waiting for :crackup: How did I know you would say this exact samething, are you sure you don't have a pop-up for looks matter/don't matter threads dude? I usually partially agree with alot of what you say her Just A Shot Away and I agree that most commercial reality shows near enough are scripted. Fair.
You knew I was going to say this exact thing because Darwin's research hasn't changed. You knew I was going to say that for the same reason that you know if someone said "The sky is neon pink", someone would immediately respond with "No, the sky is blue." And yes, I wish I had some kind of alert system for these endless looks matter threads. It would definitely ease my mind. :p

However, I don't believe this show was. I feel it's more like a mini-Big Brother, where the audience get to see the REAL personalities of it's contestants. No scripts, no lines. Have you seen any episodes of the show? You can tell most of it isn't scripted, just by the gutted look of the guys who got rejected.
Ok, the thing about reality shows is that they have commercials. Commercials bring revenue to the TV networks. The more people that watch their TV programs, the more they can charge companies to advertise during these programs. If nobody watches their programs, they don't get revenue. You think ABC is going to put their MONEY in the hands of people off the street who may or may not do things that sell ad space? You're being naive, Pachuco. Big Brother is scripted. Next! is scripted. The Real World is scripted. And yes, even this "Dating in the Dark" reality show is scripted. There was a lengthy casting process for this show, and the producers filmed the participants until they got the exact results they were looking for. If you're trying to somehow prove that you need to be good-looking to get girls or even that it helps any measurable amount, reality TV is really not the best medium to make your case.

Why was this the case? If it were so scripted, why didn't majority of the average guys get picked by the hot women, even upon having attractive characteristics and personalities in the first place?
That's exactly why the script was written as such. The American public has these ideas in their minds about what women want and what men want and such. If a TV program goes against this, people don't buy into it, they don't watch it, and ABC doesn't get their money from Gillette, McDonald's, and J.G. Wentworth. Ever watch a cop show? Macho guys, right? Usually big guys that love confrontation with a "don't take no for an answer" attitude. That's the idea of police officers Americans have in their head. If they showed actual representations of this profession, nobody would be interested because it doesn't seem real. This isn't up for debate, man. It really isn't. Reality TV is as real as professional wrestling, and you sound ignorant arguing the contrary.
 

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HeyPachuco! said:
So I guess, that means looks matter? One girl even started crying because she was shocked at how she was attracted to one contestant, but when eventually seeing him, was disappointed not only in his looks, but the way her percieved knowledge of looks matter weighed more than the personality in the end.

Looks matter but to a degree but not as much as some paranoid people think. Obviously these women value looks extremely highly. They're extreme in that sense and thats why they were picked for this show. Normal people don't usually get picked for these types of shows.
 

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slaog said:
Looks matter but to a degree but not as much as some paranoid people think. Obviously these women value looks extremely highly. They're extreme in that sense and thats why they were picked for this show. Normal people don't usually get picked for these types of shows.
nearly every woman value looks highly, its just that these women on the dating in the dark programme are open about it.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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I've just been watching it on youtube. Its actually entertaining!


What it has been a real eye opener is women reject men on looks but its not as simple as that. The type of look is just as important. In one case a guy charmed 3 women and they all rejected him. He was good looking and dressed in a suit but he looked too young mainly because he had a fancy slightly over the top haircut.


How you dress etc can also say alot about you so in that sense judging people on looks is not as shallow as you might think.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29mlrl3Fj94&feature=related
 
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