dating-being direct or just go with flow?

[joe45]

i met a girl at the library and shes japanese esl foreigner and im canadian asian. what do you do if a girl lets you hold hands with her on 2nd date but doesnt allow you to kiss her.

i met this other girl and shes also japanese esl and i got her number and we hung out yesterday. im interested in her, but not sure if she is in me? do i ask her out directly "hey are you interested in me" or do i just keep going out with her and eventually ask ? when should i put a move? i dont want to be just friends with her and hang out, how can i do this with out being too direct. how do i let her now im interested in her

how would you go out about this

do you guy ask a girl if she wants to be in a relationship with me after 3 dates or do you just go with the flow and keep going out?

after how many dates should i put a move?

 

[Iceberg]

Jesus. I respect your desire to come here and improve yourself. But you need to read the DJ Bible in the worst way.

1 - Holding hands means nothing. In fact, it's lame. If a girl "lets you" hold her hand, but doesn't kiss you then she's lame. She's a boring prude. And it'll take you months to get into her pants, if you make it to that point at all.

2 - No, you don't ask a girl if she's interested in you. You invite her to go somewhere with you, "There's a cool band coming to town. Come check them out with me." You don't ask a woman if she's interested. That makes it too serious. It sounds like you're making her sign a contract.."do you OFFICIALLY like me? How long can you guarantee to feel this way about me?"

3 - Three dates = a relationship? I might bang a girl for 3 months and not call it a relationship. And you wait for the girl to approach YOU about the relationship. If you have to ask her to seriously date you, then you're already the weak one in the relationship.

4 - How many dates should you make a move? One date. Maybe half of a date. You want to find out right away if this woman is sexually attracted to you. Right away. You don't want to continue investing energy into a girl who's only half-interested in you.

Read the DJ Bible, my friend. These questions are very basic. Do your research, and then come back and ask more specific questions.

 

[Aazman]

for the love of god- read the DJ Bible now! You answer will be there. and all your other answers will be there. Trust me, 3 months ago, I was in the same situation as you. Take some time to read it- the bits you want to find out about.

Sorry just realised i'd posted it at the same time ;p

 

[r0cky]

He's been a member for 5 years, chances are he's read the dj bible. Its very sad that you're still having such rookie issues

 

[doubledown11]

A man doesn't ask these questions to its woman, the same way a lion does not ask the elk if it's okay that he begins eating it.

And what's with this analyzing the hand-holding business? Come on, man.

You take her out one more time, you get somewhere where you're both seated. You escalate with your eyes and your touch, and you see how she responds. If she digs it, you're close to a kiss. If she recoils, then you work more comfort until it feels comfortable. Then you try again. If she recoils again, then forget her.

 

[Scion]

WTF is this ****? What kind of fvcking noob questions is this? Fvck!! Fvck!! FVCK!!!!!!!!! [mind blows up!!!!]

Ok, I think I've calmed down a bit. Here, I'll answer your questions in order before I start to b1tch slap you around:

1) So the girl won't kiss you by the end of the second date? Fvck, I've had girls jam their tongue down my throat just because I gave them a nice sweet kiss on the first date. I've had girls giving me *******s on the first date (well, actually only 2 but my point stands). A girl that won't let you kiss her on the second date isn't really worth pursuing.

2) Just ask her the fvck out already!!! You'll find out if she like you then. Don't ask her if she likes you!!!!!!!!!!!! Women like a man who takes action, not one that asks her permission.

3) WTF is wrong with you? No man asks a girl to be his girlfriend, and especially not after 3 dates!!!!! That topic of conversation is supposed to be brought up by the woman. A girl will lose interest if the guy she's seeing brings up the relationship talk (since she knows at this point that she's got him hooked).

4) How long to wait before you make a move? Umm, 5 mins! Wait, make a move the minute you meet her, and keep making moves til you fvck her.

Now, time for the b1tch slapping!! Your pretty pathetic. Stop asking questions, find the DJ bible and start reading. Most of this stuff is things guys know instinctively. However you don't seem to, and until then your doomed to fail. And btw, I bet that that prude-like japanese girl probably fvcked a real man on the first date. Just food for thought.