Date won´t kiss on 2nd date

[Juanto]

Invite her for a bottle of wine at her AIRBnB place or your place............or arrange to meet her for one drink near your
place or near her place.......and have a bottle of wine in a bag with you.....have the drink and tell her you'd bought the
wine on the way, you should go back to hers to sample it.....

I guess if she refuses the invite to come over for a bottle of wine, then its really time to move on.

 

[wifehunter]

Let it happen.

 

[Juanto]

Yeah so she'll be looking for a few fellas like you to pay the tab. She'll have a rolodex.

She knows your sniffing and she's keeping you just at arms length...........

Invite her for a bottle of wine at her AIRBnB place or your place............or arrange to meet her for one drink near your
place or near her place.......and have a bottle of wine in a bag with you.....have the drink and tell her you'd bought the
wine on the way, you should go back to hers to sample it.....

If you don't get any play.......then move on

Just remembered that she is going to the same friday meetup we went last week, but I probably cant make it this time due to work duties (anyway I also prefer to meet her one on one and not on a group setting), so I was thinking of texting her before the meetup telling her I wont be able to make it on time, but we can meet after for a bottle of great portuguese wine i just bought, and then suggest my place or her place, somewhere along these lines. What do you think?

 

[pyros]

it seems you're not getting it.

She rejected you a few times, and now you want to ask her to come to your place for a glass of wine? hahaha...yeah, why not? lol

 

[Juanto]

Thanks for all your good advice guys, I thought about what you all wrote and my perception of things as well, and I reached the conclusion I was in the beginning of the process of being majorly jerked around by this girl, so I said f*ck it, not falling for that. Therefore, I sent her this text 20 mins ago:"Hi, yesterday was a nice evening, good fun, but im not interested in being just friends. I find you very attractive and only friendship just wont work for me, so its better not to go out again together if this is what you want. If you change your mind about this, let me know. Kiss, Juanto"

2 mins later, she replied: " I find your text as a compliment but for the first time I dont know what to answer... Its all so new for me... So you think that would work? U met me just twice!"

And an hour after she also texted: " And you dont want to smell this (her) parfum anymore?"

Whats your take on it?

 

[Juanto]

it seems you're not getting it.

She rejected you a few times, and now you want to ask her to come to your place for a glass of wine? hahaha...yeah, why not? lol

You are right pyros.

 

[EyeBRollin]

You're moving way too fast dude. You're out. Your second date should be at least a week after the first date. You're way too easy and available. You had your shot and blew it. She called you a friend. Had you backed off after the first date, you might have gotten your kiss on the second date. I've dated these types of women. If you come in too hot, you disqualify yourself. She had interest, now you're just a toy.

A first date kiss rejection is comfort. A second date kiss rejection is low interest. You're out!!!!

 

[EyeBRollin]

You were barely hanging on from the beginning. You see when a woman is only sort of interested in you, you have no margin for error. I strongly recommend you stop with the kino. She thinks you're a ****ing creep. Women don't lie, men just don't listen.

This chick told you she needs patience. What did you do? You rushed. Spin more plates next time.

 

[EyeBRollin]

"Hi, yesterday was a nice evening, good fun, but im not interested in being just friends. I find you very attractive and only friendship just wont work for me, so its better not to go out again together if this is what you want. If you change your mind about this, let me know. Kiss, Juanto"

Whats your take on it?

NEVER send a text like this ever again. You shoudln't be discussing feelings ever. That's her job. You're doing way too much my friend. All you have to do is hang back and ask babes out once per week. Let them come to you at their own pace.

This text is not masculine at all, it's sad. You just dashed any shred of hope you had left. Find a new girl, please. She's probably laughing with her friends as we speak.

 

[Juanto]

You were barely hanging on from the beginning. You see when a woman is only sort of interested in you, you have no margin for error. I strongly recommend you stop with the kino. She thinks you're a ****ing creep. Women don't lie, men just don't listen.

This chick told you she needs patience. What did you do? You rushed. Spin more plates next time.

Anyway you think I can still have some chances here? Just tell her that I understand, and for her to contact me when she feels confortable to do so?

 

[Juanto]

NEVER send a text like this ever again. You shoudln't be discussing feelings ever. That's her job. You're doing way too much my friend. All you have to do is hang back and ask babes out once per week. Let them come to you at their own pace.

This text is not masculine at all, it's sad. You just dashed any shred of hope you had left. Find a new girl, please. She's probably laughing with her friends as we speak.

I reckon she understood I wasnt talking about feelings , just the fact that I thought she was leading me on

 

[EyeBRollin]

I reckon she understood I wasnt talking about feelings , just the fact that I thought she was leading me on

She doesn't care about your feelings man; she doesn't know you!

She didn't lead you on though, honestly. You fumbled the football.

 

[devilkingx2]

Thanks for all your good advice guys, I thought about what you all wrote and my perception of things as well, and I reached the conclusion I was in the beginning of the process of being majorly jerked around by this girl, so I said f*ck it, not falling for that. Therefore, I sent her this text 20 mins ago:"Hi, yesterday was a nice evening, good fun, but im not interested in being just friends. I find you very attractive and only friendship just wont work for me, so its better not to go out again together if this is what you want. If you change your mind about this, let me know. Kiss, Juanto"

2 mins later, she replied: " I find your text as a compliment but for the first time I dont know what to answer... Its all so new for me... So you think that would work? U met me just twice!"

And an hour after she also texted: " And you dont want to smell this (her) parfum anymore?"

Whats your take on it?

she's jerking you around.

if she didn't care she'd either not respond or give you some no effort 1 word response

if she was mad she'd curse you out and block you

if she was sad she'd say something melodramatic and cry

if she actually liked you, she'd be begging you to go out with her again and give her another chance and say that she does like you and want to date you

she either cares just a little(slightly more than not at all) or she's been enjoying her new orbiter/free meal ticket

it's done here. move on, screw her.

You're moving way too fast dude. You're out. Your second date should be at least a week after the first date. You're way too easy and available. You had your shot and blew it. She called you a friend. Had you backed off after the first date, you might have gotten your kiss on the second date. I've dated these types of women. If you come in too hot, you disqualify yourself. She had interest, now you're just a toy.

A first date kiss rejection is comfort. A second date kiss rejection is low interest. You're out!!!!

a kiss on the first/second date is moving fast?

are you in middle school? or are you assuming that OP and/or his girl are?

You were barely hanging on from the beginning. You see when a woman is only sort of interested in you, you have no margin for error. I strongly recommend you stop with the kino. She thinks you're a ****ing creep. Women don't lie, men just don't listen.

This chick told you she needs patience. What did you do? You rushed. Spin more plates next time.

as that guy with the red avatar always says, it's an enormously stupid waste of time to try and get a woman with next to no interest to like you, you'd be better off cold approaching 10 or 20 girls on the street at that point. it's a smarter investment of time.

the advice you're giving OP is only going to get him 2 things:

1. friendzoned
2. prudes (nuns, 15 year old virgins, girls with low sex drives from their anti depressants, asexual chicks, girls whose emotional trauma makes intimacy difficult, etc. and other such buzzkills)

 

[devilkingx2]

Anyway you think I can still have some chances here? Just tell her that I understand, and for her to contact me when she feels confortable to do so?

well in theory, it's possible to spontaneously combust

by that same logic, you still have a chance.

I reckon she understood I wasnt talking about feelings , just the fact that I thought she was leading me on

she wasn't leading you on tbh, it was pretty clear from an outside perspective that she couldn't have been less interested if she tried.

but it can be hard to tell from the inside

 

[EyeBRollin]

a kiss on the first/second date is moving fast?

are you in middle school? or are you assuming that OP and/or his girl are?

I think you're in middle school because you can't read. "Too fast" means too much time too quickly. There were only three days between dates.

 

[devilkingx2]

I think you're in middle school because you can't read. "Too fast" means too much time too quickly. There were only three days between dates.

i'd say 3 days is a reasonable minimum time between dates, but i guess i agree it's a bit on the fast side

 

[EyeBRollin]

i'd say 3 days is a reasonable minimum time between dates, but i guess i agree it's a bit on the fast side

You should barely see your girlfriend that frequently, let alone a chick you just met. She needs time to miss you so her feelings develop.

 

[Juanto]

After her last SMS I tend to agree with devilking. Just received this text, with referênces to things we joked about yesterday:
"I respect U like clear situations-so do I.I think its very mature!By the way,there's so much to lose already!Ur trip to Katowice with me,U will not hire me as a Polish assistant&U will not try my magical juices!Are U ready to lose so much?So what is the next step senhore Juanto?"

 

[devilkingx2]

After her last SMS I tend to agree with devilking. Just received this text, with referênces to things we joked about yesterday:
"I respect U like clear situations-so do I.I think its very mature!By the way,there's so much to lose already!Ur trip to Katowice with me,U will not hire me as a Polish assistant&U will not try my magical juices!Are U ready to lose so much?So what is the next step senhore Juanto?"

say "if i can't have it now, i don't want it ever"

then never respond to her again unless she's practically begging you to sample her juice

 

[EyeBRollin]

I think you're trolling now. But here's what you do:

You're going to invite her out to something close to your place. You're going to let her do the talking and initiate physical contact. Once she does, you're going to reciprocate touch and go in for the kiss. Escalate, then tell her you want to show her a glass of wine, or anything in your place. You will take her back and seduce her.