date with HB9 on Friday, need advice

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Hi guys,

So this is my first post on here and Ima tell you a little about myself. I am a tall good looking guy that should be able to get women easily. I have been an AFC all my life ( im 21 ) until recently. I have had a change in mindset recently and stopped giving a f*** and it has been working well for me. So this HB 9 I know broke up with her LONGGGGGG term bf and she msg'd me asking to go to dinner. I know she thinks im good looking however I have always been inthe friend zone with her. I haven't really spoken to here for around 2 years but out of nowhere she msg'd me to go out and get dinner. She offered to pick me up and since she offered to do that I asked her whether she wants to chill after and "watch some movies" at my place. She said she is down to come so I assume she is interested. What do you guys think should be my moves when I go out with her.

I am fairly funny so I know the dinner date will go smooth. I am thinking of kino'ing a lot maybe throw in some hints during the dinner and some drinks. Then when I go back to my place im thinking of drinking a bit more and watching the movies. I have always had a problem with seduction when I bring the girl back to my place so whats some of your guys suggestions or moves I can do to ensure I get it in?
 

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Sounds like you have a prime opportunity here.

If possible when back at your place, when you sit on the couch, maybe sit first and see how close she sits...if it's further away, figure out a reason to get up a bit later, then sit right next to her.
 

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Probably just going to watch it in my room so we'll just be on my bed. I am big on Kino so definitely want to kino straight from the beginning and see where it goes from there. Hopefully she doesn't see me as the friend zoned AFC from a few years back, that is my main concern.
 
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I don't know how the restaurant is but sit NEXT to her if possible not opposite her. Wear a good cologne lightly. The smell will intoxicate and seduce her. Make sure your breath is minty fresh too. You don't want to knock her out with bad breath. Dress nicely but not overly nice. A pain white button up shirt and black pants is nice.

Make sure you try to get as much kino in as possible. Open doors for her and put your hand on the small of her back to guide her in. DON'T TOUCH HER ASS. Just above it.
 

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Tictac said:
Treat her as though she is an HB 5.
I treat a lot of my HB 8's or 9's like that already and ya it works fairly well. Lot of negs but not too much so she doesn't feel I am making fun of her. I am wondering more about when should I make a move, I am usually terrible at choosing that moment even if the IOI's are clearly there and I know shes interested.
 

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I wouldn't start in immediately when you get to your place, unless Dinner goes extremely well.

Remember to gaze into her right eye when speaking to her.
Not every time, but often enough she notices. It's amazing
how powerful/seductive that can be.
 

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Don't bring her back to your place!

I know you must be saying, are you crazy?

If this IL is true, flaking on her at the last minute after dinner will ignite it even more.

Let her work for it a little. You need to hold the frame that you are the catch. If you go in thinking about bringing her back to your place and sex you will fail.

My opinion!
 

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CHICAGO27 said:
Don't bring her back to your place!

I know you must be saying, are you crazy?

If this IL is true, flaking on her at the last minute after dinner will ignite it even more.

Let her work for it a little. You need to hold the frame that you are the catch. If you go in thinking about bringing her back to your place and sex you will fail.

My opinion!
I guess I will see how dinner goes first to make any decisions, maybe I will try and bring her on a bar date. I think with some alcohol anything is possible.. hahaha
 
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I found this bit in an article and I thought it might help you.

When the date is heading towards the home stretch, make a move and ask her to keep hanging out. Here’s where things get interesting.

You could just say “Hey, want to come back to my place and hang out?” It can work, but it’s not always your best option.

The truth is, even when a girl wants to hook up, she doesn’t to want it to be the only reason you two are still hanging out. Girl’s get self-conscious, nervous, and often will try to talk themselves out of it. They want to be able to tell themselves and their friends that you guys went to watch some YouTube videos and it “just happened.”

She’s not oblivious: she knows what going to your or her house means. But, you should give her a valid reason why you want to keep spending time with her. It can be anything really, as long as it’s genuine. Some examples:

“This is a great night, do you want to come chill and watch an episode of True Blood?” (No girl says no to vampires.)
“Hey, my place is only a few blocks away, I’m really excited to show you the new Of Montreal album!”
“I’d love to see your artwork, you still down to hang for a bit?”
“I’m having a lot of fun, I don’t want this to end yet.” (Simple and honest. Your reason is you like being with her.)

Ending the night

So now she agreed to go back and continue the night with you. Do you jump her bones the second you walk in the door? No! Do you want her to lose trust in you? You offered her a reason to come up, so stay true to your word.

Whatever that thing was, that’s how you start. Turn on your music, put on Netflix, and offer her a drink. Sit next to her and enjoy letting her be a part of your world for a few minutes. If you’re at her place, be legitimately enthusiastic to what she’s showing you. There’s no rush, a man who has self-control is very attractive.

From there, lead it forward naturally one step at a time. Put your leg against hers and push gently. Place your hand on her thigh and softly caress it. Kiss her (bare) shoulder and neck. Tease her all over and build her desire for you. Proceed to make out and so forth.

Make it all about her and take it slow. Respect her boundaries and if she’s truly not ready to go all the way yet, don’t sweat it. She’ll trust you more for understanding.

Your focus is to show her an awesome experience and have her feeling amazing. Once you do that, everything else falls into place. Keep escalating the situation and see where the night takes you
 

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Doesn't sound like you'll have to make much effort, as it sounds like she's chosen a nice safe chap for a rebound shag and some validation on a Friday night. The precursor of buying her dinner is just an anti slut defence.

Don't be too nice and you'll have to turn the testosterone upto 10, to escape the friend zone though. IMO.
 

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Make it all about her and take it slow. Respect her boundaries and if she’s truly not ready to go all the way yet, don’t sweat it. She’ll trust you more for understanding.

Your focus is to show her an awesome experience
Ignore dating sh1t that's written by women.
 

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Be the funniest mutha fvcker on the planet, get her laughing her head off, kino her lightly and neg the shyt out of her.
At the end of the date when she's wiping the tears of laughter from her eyes, grab her hand and say "let's go, I've got a bottle of *insert alcohol here* with our names all over it."
Continue the funny guy routine, feed the booze into her, get close to her, put your arm around her and kiss her.
 

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CHICAGO27 said:
How did your night turn out? Success?
Night went good, coulda went better. Dinner was good , cracked a lot of jokes did a lot of kino then went back to my place to watch a movie. I made her drinks, laid next to her in bed and we watched the movie. I kept kino'ing during the whole movie tryna get something going then finally I just made out with her. At this point we forgot about the movie and I tried goin for her panties but she kept resisting and saying she isn't that easy. I was fairly persistant for a bit but knew when no means no, so we just did that bull**** romantic sh1t girls love in bed like cuddle. I drove her back after and she said she's down to chill again for sure so I will keep everyone posted. It was a mild success of a night, at least I know I am past the dreaded friend zone.
 

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That sounds like a good night man. You should let it simmer a bit and plan another action date. Keep it relatively cheap and simple.

Don't worry about not hooking up. That is actually a good sign. You don't want a chick selling the farm on day one. It will happen eventually. The less you are focused on the outcome the faster it will happen for you!

Nice job!
 
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