DonJuanabe
Master Don Juan
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Had a first date with a girl last week. Met online; very good email rapport. We meet in person and she is smiling. We stand fairly close to each other as we wait for a table at the restaurant. Convo is easy and bantering; I playfully neg her at various times -- she likes it. While eating the great convo continues, as do the occasional negs. She admits to being nervous and having a great time. When the check arrives she reaches for her wallet, I take the check and say no, if you want to pay you let me know if you want to go on a second date and you can pay for that. She makes me promise to let her pay for the second date.
We walk in the parking lot to her car. When we get to it I turn toward her, she does not shirk away, I put my hands on her waist and move in for the kiss. We are making out. If you really want to check her interest level look for French kissing, but you can't just ram your tongue down her throat. Here is how you do it, which I did: while making out you gently, subtly touch your tongue to her lip, not inside, just on the surface. Gauge her reaction. Often, if she wants it, she will then escalate. In my case her tongue was inside my mouth a second later. We continue and I again escalate by moving my hands down to her a**, pushing it in toward me. We grope for a while. A few minutes later we say goodbye. A second date has been set up. I am playing cool.
Note: even if things fall through, which is always possible with women, I won't be upset -- my game was solid and I have nothing to ***** about.
Compare that to my oneitis from the spring. First date we make out and I know she is interested. Second date I take it casual rather than escalating the setting. Afterwards she is angry and scolds me for it saying she wanted a romantic date not one where I'm wearing jeans and we're hanging out with my friends. I figured this was easily resolved but a conflux of events and timing, which I never would have thought would take place, derail the potential relationship I wanted with this girl. Had I been on my game on our second date and taken her to bed (which would have happened had I made the date romantic in nature) things would have been different.
It has been nearly four months since this second date with oneitis. What's my regret? That *I* didn't do what I should have done. I didn't escalate the date itself. I didn't escalate beyond making out with her afterwards even though she was making it clear I should do so (she started heavy French kissing). I didn't take action when I should have taken action and I can ONLY blame MYSELF.
What you have to understand is that this BS belief that you're somehow a better man if you show you want to be a girl's friend, or that you don't want her for sex alone, is bogus. If you're her friend you are most likely not having sex with her and that is how women generally categorize men. Friend = no sex. What a woman wants is for a man to make her feel special, make her feel sexy, make her feel as though she wants to f*ck you. She wants to be turned on and you will not turn her on by being a friend or by not escalating. So how do you escalate? You simply do it. That's what she is there for.
We walk in the parking lot to her car. When we get to it I turn toward her, she does not shirk away, I put my hands on her waist and move in for the kiss. We are making out. If you really want to check her interest level look for French kissing, but you can't just ram your tongue down her throat. Here is how you do it, which I did: while making out you gently, subtly touch your tongue to her lip, not inside, just on the surface. Gauge her reaction. Often, if she wants it, she will then escalate. In my case her tongue was inside my mouth a second later. We continue and I again escalate by moving my hands down to her a**, pushing it in toward me. We grope for a while. A few minutes later we say goodbye. A second date has been set up. I am playing cool.
Note: even if things fall through, which is always possible with women, I won't be upset -- my game was solid and I have nothing to ***** about.
Compare that to my oneitis from the spring. First date we make out and I know she is interested. Second date I take it casual rather than escalating the setting. Afterwards she is angry and scolds me for it saying she wanted a romantic date not one where I'm wearing jeans and we're hanging out with my friends. I figured this was easily resolved but a conflux of events and timing, which I never would have thought would take place, derail the potential relationship I wanted with this girl. Had I been on my game on our second date and taken her to bed (which would have happened had I made the date romantic in nature) things would have been different.
It has been nearly four months since this second date with oneitis. What's my regret? That *I* didn't do what I should have done. I didn't escalate the date itself. I didn't escalate beyond making out with her afterwards even though she was making it clear I should do so (she started heavy French kissing). I didn't take action when I should have taken action and I can ONLY blame MYSELF.
What you have to understand is that this BS belief that you're somehow a better man if you show you want to be a girl's friend, or that you don't want her for sex alone, is bogus. If you're her friend you are most likely not having sex with her and that is how women generally categorize men. Friend = no sex. What a woman wants is for a man to make her feel special, make her feel sexy, make her feel as though she wants to f*ck you. She wants to be turned on and you will not turn her on by being a friend or by not escalating. So how do you escalate? You simply do it. That's what she is there for.
