Date Report: D1ck Tease

[lookyoung]

Ok guys I went out with approach #4 and this is how it went..... I picked her up from her house about 1000pm, we went to a bar with 2 floors. Bar downstairs and dance floor upstairs. We went straight upstairs were there is a lounge area with sofas and we sat there the whole time.

We talked about a variety of things family, relationships, School, ( She goes to the university of chicago which the top university in Illinois). She kept stressing that like I really give a fvck. Her face was a 9 her body was a
6. During the night we made out on 15 different occasions, had my arm around her the whole time and developed great kino... I had about 4 redbull and vodkas, 2 coronas, She had 4 coronas... FAST FORWARD TO ME DROPPING HER OFF AT HOME THIS IS WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING.


When I got to her house to drop her off, I gave her a kiss and said aren't u going to invite me upstairs. She said yeah sure. I get to her house and she has a dog a Cairn terrior that is all over me. Kissing me and humping my leg all that BS. She tells me she will be right back goes in her room and comes out with some skimpy daisy duke shorts, and a tight shirt... Her body could lose about 15 pound so I wasn't impressed. The whole time I am trying to get my mack on, and she keeps paying attention to that little shvt dog of hers...

We start making out, I put my hand up her shirt and remove bra. She says No u can't do that and turns on her stomach to play with the dog again. I start massaging her thinking that I will surely turn her on. I do this for about 5 minutes. She says it feels good. We start making out again and this time I start sucking on her tits. Then she asks me if she can have my chain, I tell her you don't deserve it. She laughs and says you are so mean.

Play it cool then restart again suck tits, pull shorts halfway down, fondle, SHe pulls shorts backup. This goes on about 4 times.

Finally I say you know what I am going to take off. SHe says why are u doing this that is so mean stay... Then she asks do you have any tatoos? I said no I don't. She says I don't believe you take off your shirt?

Now keep in mind fellas she has already teased me 5 times so I said no I have to go. She begs me and I say no. I was like fvck this tease.... She walks me to the door and we start making out really heavy this time I take off her shirt and I remove mine. I start making out with her really passionately suck tits, groping ass, she is kissing my neck but not really as into it as I am. So basically I put my shirt back on and said I am out of here.

She was like are you mad, I said no I am not mad but your playing games, she said why are u leaving, I said listen hun I have to go and I left.....


25 MINUTES LATER I GET THIS TEXT MESSAGE. HEY LOOKYOUNG I AM SORRY IF YOUR MAD I DIDN'T MEAN TO BE A TEASE, I HAVE HAD A REALLY LONG WEEK. IF IT MATTER I HAD A GOOD TIME TONIGHT.


Now my opinion is for the most part I think I played my cards right, but I don't think she was open to having sex with me tonight. Woman usually know if they want to have sex with you before you pick them up. ( If they are open to it).


To the Don juans out there have you guys experienced this, and should I make a play for this girl again, I am not crazy about her but still want to fvck her... But I don't want to take the chance of going out with her and this happening again. This girl didn't seem sincere to me. Should I text her back?



What would you guys do????? I appreciate any good advice I get


Keepsarging

 

[jonwon]

Ok guys I went out with approach #4 and this is how it went..... I picked her up from her house about 1000pm, we went to a bar with 2 floors. Bar downstairs and dance floor upstairs. We went straight upstairs were there is a lounge area with sofas and we sat there the whole time.

We talked about a variety of things family, relationships, School, ( She goes to the university of chicago which the top university in Illinois). She kept stressing that like I really give a fvck. Her face was a 9 her body was a
6. During the night we made out on 15 different occasions, had my arm around her the whole time and developed great kino... I had about 4 redbull and vodkas, 2 coronas, She had 4 coronas... FAST FORWARD TO ME DROPPING HER OFF AT HOME THIS IS WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING.


When I got to her house to drop her off, I gave her a kiss and said aren't u going to invite me upstairs. She said yeah sure. I get to her house and she has a dog a Cairn terrior that is all over me. Kissing me and humping my leg all that BS. She tells me she will be right back goes in her room and comes out with some skimpy daisy duke shorts, and a tight shirt... Her body could lose about 15 pound so I wasn't impressed. The whole time I am trying to get my mack on, and she keeps paying attention to that little shvt dog of hers...

We start making out, I put my hand up her shirt and remove bra. She says No u can't do that and turns on her stomach to play with the dog again. I start massaging her thinking that I will surely turn her on. I do this for about 5 minutes. She says it feels good. We start making out again and this time I start sucking on her tits. Then she asks me if she can have my chain, I tell her you don't deserve it. She laughs and says you are so mean.

Play it cool then restart again suck tits, pull shorts halfway down, fondle, SHe pulls shorts backup. This goes on about 4 times.

Finally I say you know what I am going to take off. SHe says why are u doing this that is so mean stay... Then she asks do you have any tatoos? I said no I don't. She says I don't believe you take off your shirt?

Now keep in mind fellas she has already teased me 5 times so I said no I have to go. She begs me and I say no. I was like fvck this tease.... She walks me to the door and we start making out really heavy this time I take off her shirt and I remove mine. I start making out with her really passionately suck tits, groping ass, she is kissing my neck but not really as into it as I am. So basically I put my shirt back on and said I am out of here.

She was like are you mad, I said no I am not mad but your playing games, she said why are u leaving, I said listen hun I have to go and I left.....


25 MINUTES LATER I GET THIS TEXT MESSAGE. HEY LOOKYOUNG I AM SORRY IF YOUR MAD I DIDN'T MEAN TO BE A TEASE, I HAVE HAD A REALLY LONG WEEK. IF IT MATTER I HAD A GOOD TIME TONIGHT.


Now my opinion is for the most part I think I played my cards right, but I don't think she was open to having sex with me tonight. Woman usually know if they want to have sex with you before you pick them up. ( If they are open to it).


To the Don juans out there have you guys experienced this, and should I make a play for this girl again, I am not crazy about her but still want to fvck her... But I don't want to take the chance of going out with her and this happening again. This girl didn't seem sincere to me. Should I text her back?



What would you guys do????? I appreciate any good advice I get


Keepsarging

Token resistance is all it was, it is to be expected almost always.

I hate token resistance, if she is doing that the slu* reflex is in action but she is still wanting sex.

The problem is if you push it too far you risk her branding you as a rapist.

It is better to lead, but not jump through her hoops.

What I mean is if she walks way, let her, don’t follow her, stay cool put on the TV and wait till she comes back, which she will almost always.

If your playing with her ti*s and she says no and pulls her top back down, chill relax for five minutes and watch tv or something.

I would not have given her a massarge, but I see where you are coming from and what you where trying to achieve, trying to get her more aroused.

As soon as she pushed me off in that manner, I would have simply sat back, content, let out a small sigh of some sort and watched a bit of tv. Waited till she had finished with the dog and come back to me, then resumed.

It is always better to allow the women to keep coming back for more, don’t force it, take it slow in steady steps and if she gives token resistance allow her to come back into it.

What this does it shifts: the try hard from the guy! Think of it as you simply trying to have sex with her 100% and her given token resistance. Well when you get it to the stage where she is trying it with you, then the balance is: 70% you 30% her, it is far easier to escalate it then. Try to get her begging for more is what I am saying! This is by using what some describe as PUSH/PULL.

An example: was the door and you putting on your jacket, where she came over to you and your tops where off! at that stage I would have simply held her hand and WALKED towards her bedroom.
If she would have said, (actually when she does say) ‘what are you doing’ I would simply reply 'come on', with a big smile!

Mostly I cant be bothered with this and when I get a women back I relax with some tv, escalate, then after some initial push pull, I simply say ‘lets go upstairs’ more often then not they will. Or if I am at her place, I will simply hold her hand, stand up and walk towards the bedroom.

 

[Omni]

She's obviously playing games, so why would you still want her? Is it worth all that just to get laid once? What if her next game is called "I regret it so I'm calling it date rape" or "why don't I poke some holes in the condom"?

 

[jonwon]

She's obviously playing games, so why would you still want her? Is it worth all that just to get laid once? What if her next game is called "I regret it so I'm calling it date rape" or "why don't I poke some holes in the condom"?

she is not playing games, this is normal stuff.

 

[JustDoItAlways]

This is just Anti-Slut-Defence (ASD).

I posted this some time ago.

------

I've thought some more about ASD and what has been successful for me in the past. I think that you need to have a "toolbox" of methods and strategies to deal with ASD.

With any particular girl you may need to use all of them to get to your goal.

1. "Understand the Motivation." First you need to understand where ASD comes from, what is the motivation.

From the time women are little girls, they are taught not to give it up too easy, save their virginity, teased by other girls when they do give it up and labeled as "sluts" if they do sleep around. For a girl, it can nearly be the most negative label they can get.

Women will thus (very) often give you resistance (sometimes a lot) so that when they do have sex with you, they can pretend to themselves (chick-logic) and prove to you that they are not easy, that they are not a slut. In addition, they are just protecting themselves in case you go out blabbing about the encounter later.

- they need to prove to themselves they are not a slut;
- they need to prove to you they are not a slut; and,
- they don't want anyone else labelling them as a slut if word gets out about the encounter.​

How else do you get around ASD.

2. "Set the Mood." Get her horny, make her feel comfortable, get some wine (or champagne) into her. Romance her a little, run some patterns on her, have the lights down low etc. etc.

Setting the mood is all about allowing her to prove to herself that she is not a slut (chick-logic.) She should say to herself that "He did everything right so it was okay that I slept with him."

I can't go through all the different things you need to do to "set the mood" but if you just understand that it's just to make her feel comfortable about the encounter later (she wasn't a slut). All you guys are DJs so you should understand this.​

3. "Your Passion" After most of my ONSs and my frequent first-date sex nights, the explanation I have heard from the girl most often was “You just wanted me so much.”

In effect, she thinks to herself, he wanted me so much it wasn't really my fault.

If your passion is strong enough, it is a big enough compliment to a girl that it overwhelms the ASD.​

4. "Keep Trying". You will know when you are getting ASD when she says something like "we really shouldn't" or "we really can't" or "I really should go". Don't freak out, this is good sign.

Just let her play her little game(s) for a while. It is, afterall, very important to her (and to you in getting into her pants.)

Just proceed until you encounter the resistance, then back-off for a while. Do something else non-sexual, like go back to the movie for a few minutes, go take a long bathroom break, tell jokes in bed etc.

Then put the moves on her again until you get resistance again. Rinse, repeat.

After two or three times of this, almost all women will then feel vindicated that they have proved they are not a slut and then you can hit it.​

5. "Reverse Logic". Another really effective method is to just use reverse chick-logic psychology on her and say her "yeah you're right we really shouldn't", say it two or three different times using different words. If she's also giving physical resistance such as pushing you away or getting up to leave, I throw in a "Yeah, you really should go."

They always stay and come back for more with this move.​

6. "I Am Discrete". One of the motivations is her fear that other people will hear about it.

Never blab about it to anyone because you will get the big-gun ASD after, ie. last time.

In your pre-work dating, you should also never brag about any specific sexual conquests and especially any specific woman you have bagged. It is actually good if she asks you and you say "well I don't ever kiss and tell." This will get around her other fear that you will telling other people about it, even new girlfriends years down the road. Letting her know you are discrete is also a big part of breaking down her ASD.​

7. "Taste the Honey". There are a number of SS patterns designed to get her to drop her a ASD shield. I am not going to type them all out.

The point of this is to let her know that you only live once, we're both mature adults, its natural to be apprehensive, we have an incredible connection, "taste the honey" when its right in front of you.​

8. "Get Her Juices Flowing" Have you ever noticed that when you get a hard-on, you are ready to go right away.

Chicks are the same, they want to fvck when they get wet, when their puss gets engorged with blood, when it's stimulated.

Do some dry humping on her. Feel her up. Get those juices flowing.

Sounds a little crass but it is SO effective.​

9. "Set It Up For Next Time". There may be a time when its clear she is telling you "No." If it sounds like "No, not this time but maybe next time." Keep your cool and let her say No. Women will actually feel better about having sex with you in the future if she's knows she can say No once in awhile and you won't get upset about it. You're much more likely to get sex any time you want after this.

If it sounds like "No, I don't think we'll ever get together." Tell her "Wow, you are the biggest tease I've ever seen" and just get up and leave and leave her alone after. She'll probably come back apologizing after and you can set up a "Returning Fox".​

The anti-slut defense may continue to be needed by some women for a long-time into a relationship so you may need to vary your techniques some but just realize this is important to her.

Keep adding to your toolbox.

 

[jonwon]

This is just Anti-Slut-Defence (ASD).

I posted this some time ago.

------

I've thought some more about ASD and what has been successful for me in the past. I think that you need to have a "toolbox" of methods and strategies to deal with ASD.

With any particular girl you may need to use all of them to get to your goal.

1. "Understand the Motivation." First you need to understand where ASD comes from, what is the motivation.

From the time women are little girls, they are taught not to give it up too easy, save their virginity, teased by other girls when they do give it up and labeled as "sluts" if they do sleep around. For a girl, it can nearly be the most negative label they can get.

Women will thus (very) often give you resistance (sometimes a lot) so that when they do have sex with you, they can pretend to themselves (chick-logic) and prove to you that they are not easy, that they are not a slut. In addition, they are just protecting themselves in case you go out blabbing about the encounter later.

- they need to prove to themselves they are not a slut;
- they need to prove to you they are not a slut; and,
- they don't want anyone else labelling them as a slut if word gets out about the encounter.​

How else do you get around ASD.

2. "Set the Mood." Get her horny, make her feel comfortable, get some wine (or champagne) into her. Romance her a little, run some patterns on her, have the lights down low etc. etc.

Setting the mood is all about allowing her to prove to herself that she is not a slut (chick-logic.) She should say to herself that "He did everything right so it was okay that I slept with him."

I can't go through all the different things you need to do to "set the mood" but if you just understand that it's just to make her feel comfortable about the encounter later (she wasn't a slut). All you guys are DJs so you should understand this.​

3. "Your Passion" After most of my ONSs and my frequent first-date sex nights, the explanation I have heard from the girl most often was “You just wanted me so much.”

In effect, she thinks to herself, he wanted me so much it wasn't really my fault.

If your passion is strong enough, it is a big enough compliment to a girl that it overwhelms the ASD.​

4. "Keep Trying". You will know when you are getting ASD when she says something like "we really shouldn't" or "we really can't" or "I really should go". Don't freak out, this is good sign.

Just let her play her little game(s) for a while. It is, afterall, very important to her (and to you in getting into her pants.)

Just proceed until you encounter the resistance, then back-off for a while. Do something else non-sexual, like go back to the movie for a few minutes, go take a long bathroom break, tell jokes in bed etc.

Then put the moves on her again until you get resistance again. Rinse, repeat.

After two or three times of this, almost all women will then feel vindicated that they have proved they are not a slut and then you can hit it.​

5. "Reverse Logic". Another really effective method is to just use reverse chick-logic psychology on her and say her "yeah you're right we really shouldn't", say it two or three different times using different words. If she's also giving physical resistance such as pushing you away or getting up to leave, I throw in a "Yeah, you really should go."

They always stay and come back for more with this move.​

6. "I Am Discrete". One of the motivations is her fear that other people will hear about it.

Never blab about it to anyone because you will get the big-gun ASD after, ie. last time.

In your pre-work dating, you should also never brag about any specific sexual conquests and especially any specific woman you have bagged. It is actually good if she asks you and you say "well I don't ever kiss and tell." This will get around her other fear that you will telling other people about it, even new girlfriends years down the road. Letting her know you are discrete is also a big part of breaking down her ASD.​

7. "Taste the Honey". There are a number of SS patterns designed to get her to drop her a ASD shield. I am not going to type them all out.

The point of this is to let her know that you only live once, we're both mature adults, its natural to be apprehensive, we have an incredible connection, "taste the honey" when its right in front of you.​

8. "Get Her Juices Flowing" Have you ever noticed that when you get a hard-on, you are ready to go right away.

Chicks are the same, they want to fvck when they get wet, when their puss gets engorged with blood, when it's stimulated.

Do some dry humping on her. Feel her up. Get those juices flowing.

Sounds a little crass but it is SO effective.​

9. "Set It Up For Next Time". There may be a time when its clear she is telling you "No." If it sounds like "No, not this time but maybe next time." Keep your cool and let her say No. Women will actually feel better about having sex with you in the future if she's knows she can say No once in awhile and you won't get upset about it. You're much more likely to get sex any time you want after this.

If it sounds like "No, I don't think we'll ever get together." Tell her "Wow, you are the biggest tease I've ever seen" and just get up and leave and leave her alone after. She'll probably come back apologizing after and you can set up a "Returning Fox".​

The anti-slut defense may continue to be needed by some women for a long-time into a relationship so you may need to vary your techniques some but just realize this is important to her.

Keep adding to your toolbox.

I think you should come back to these boards more often.

Ignore my post this guy puts it a hell of alot better then i did, nice post and clears up anything that may have been confusing in mine.

Actually thats bible shi* right there.

This is gospel game stuff in its glory, all guys shold be incorperating this lvl of game when your reaching a peak.

 

[Aaron B]

"I've had a really long week" thats rich

I would have done exactly what you did.

You attempted to push past her resistance several times. At some point you have to leave and continue with the rest of you life.

I think if you had frozen her out harder and refused to make out with her but stayed there, maybe that could have worked but I dunno.

 

[JPFromTally]

Like JustDoItAlways said "Set it Up for Next Time." You should be able to close the deal on the next date. A lot of girls don't want to feel they'll just give it up on the first date.

 

[lookyoung]

Jonwon- Thanks for the tips . Yeah I agree with alot of what you have to say. Especially about the massage your right I should have never did this. Smiling and saying come on to go to her bedroom is something I should have also attempted. But I can't help but think this is not ASD, I think this girl may have wanted me to make her feel good emotionally. Make herself feel wanted. Maybe she is a headcase or something. This girl didn't seem like she was putting on ASD with her words. As a matter of fact while this was going on she was calling me a slut... This girl I think deliberately played this game I don't think she was open to sex.

Omni- Stuff like this happens with woman it won't be the first time for me or the last..

 

[Babnik]

Do all girls do this to you? I had this happen only ONCE...

 

[lookyoung]

Justdoitalways- Thanks for taking the time and effort to reply to my thread.. I will tell you exactly how the 9 points you brought up refer to my situation. Great tips on ASD.

1. I never had the feeling that this girl was trying to prove herself to me. We met at a club 5 days ago, I don't think she cares if I think she is a slut. However she stated she doesn't have many friends in Chicago and maybe would like for us to continue to date.


2. As far as setting the mood goes I am a great kisser(my opinion LOL). I had her alone practically butt naked. I think I did ok. That dog of hers drove me nuts. LOL

3. To be honest I wish girls told me that after I had a ONS with them the things girls usually say to me...... I have never done that. We shouldn't have did it that fast.... 1st is so I don't think she is a slut. 2nd one is to get a reaction out of me, You can call it a sh1t test.

4. This woman seemed pretty confident. She was kind of on the tough side. I can't picture this woman saying anything like that. Although I have had woman in the past say these things.

5. Great point. I used this once on her and should have used it a little bit smarter.

6. Don't know the same people.

7. Yes, this is great tip.

8. Yeah, but I sucked on this girls tits. Rubbed her **** over her spandex daisy duke shorts. Tried to go under the shorts of course LOL. I am so passionate, and that is why I was like WTF.

9. As far as next time goes man if I really wanted to fvck this girl. Which I do. The perfect way to do it would be..... I probably don't have the will power to do this. Would be to go out on 2 more dates with her and don't try nothing on her... I have a feeling this girl is one of those when she wants to fvck she will have no problem telling me. If she doesn't over the next 2 dates. Then on the 3rd date I will go balls out to fvck her, and if I don't then I am done with this braud... PERIOD>


This is the part I hate most about the game.... Your with a girl you really don't like her that much, but you want to fvck her so you go along for the ride. Man should I go for it or No? I will have to think about it???



In the mean time I am going to leave her a message to fvck with her mind a little. I am going to text her that I am not mad. Why would I be mad.

Hopefully I get a date set for tonight with Approach#3.

Keepsarging fellas

 

[lookyoung]

Do all girls do this to you? I had this happen only ONCE...

Babnik I have had ASD happen to me quite a few times. Usually am pretty good at breaking through it. I think this is more of a situation that the girl wants attention... She is not open to having sex with me this particular night. This is probably the 3rd or 4th girl that has done this to me. I have actually gotten frustrated with this before, and stopped talking to them because of this.


I think that if I would have ate this girls pvssy she would not have had the juices flowing. Think hookers guys. Woman can shut things off easy in some ways.

 

[Snow Plowman]

OMG, you've learned your lesson. Now to know your mistake.

It wasn't token resistance or ASD. It was LMR. (Last minute resistance) If you're picking chicks up and ****ing them first or second day your most likely going to get LMR. You notice whenever she stopped it wasn't like she moved away from you or wanted you to leave. A girl isn't like guys where were instantly ready to fuk.

All you had to do was keep doing what you were doing and you would've eventually got laid her. Did you notice each time you started again you were getting closer and closer.

You most likely wounldn't get LMR if any, if you've known the girl for a bit and then gradually lead to sex. Next just remember its LMR and just keep wash rinsing and repeating.

 

[Babnik]

Babnik I have had ASD happen to me quite a few times. Usually am pretty good at breaking through it. I think this is more of a situation that the girl wants attention... She is not open to having sex with me this particular night. This is probably the 3rd or 4th girl that has done this to me. I have actually gotten frustrated with this before, and stopped talking to them because of this.


I think that if I would have ate this girls pvssy she would not have had the juices flowing. Think hookers guys. Woman can shut things off easy in some ways.

So you get ADS, but you mostly get through it?

QUESTION to Justdoitalways

I had a situation where I was sitting with a girl on a couch in a living room and were making out but her ROOMMATES (3 of them) were walking around!

Like, its too soon to ask a girl to go to her room because I haven't felt her up yet, and yet I can't do anything besides kissing because of her roommates. What the hell do you do?

 

[Charm]

You say "Lets go to your room to talk privately."

 

[lookyoung]

Holy sh1t guys! I just got a text from her saying are you mad at me? I am going to play it cool and text her back saying No, I have no reason to be mad.


Charm- Its a dog for crying out loud..... LOL

 

[ValleyDJing]

This is just Anti-Slut-Defence (ASD).

I posted this some time ago.

------

I've thought some more about ASD and what has been successful for me in the past. I think that you need to have a "toolbox" of methods and strategies to deal with ASD.

With any particular girl you may need to use all of them to get to your goal.

1. "Understand the Motivation." First you need to understand where ASD comes from, what is the motivation.

From the time women are little girls, they are taught not to give it up too easy, save their virginity, teased by other girls when they do give it up and labeled as "sluts" if they do sleep around. For a girl, it can nearly be the most negative label they can get.

Women will thus (very) often give you resistance (sometimes a lot) so that when they do have sex with you, they can pretend to themselves (chick-logic) and prove to you that they are not easy, that they are not a slut. In addition, they are just protecting themselves in case you go out blabbing about the encounter later.

- they need to prove to themselves they are not a slut;
- they need to prove to you they are not a slut; and,
- they don't want anyone else labelling them as a slut if word gets out about the encounter.​

How else do you get around ASD.

2. "Set the Mood." Get her horny, make her feel comfortable, get some wine (or champagne) into her. Romance her a little, run some patterns on her, have the lights down low etc. etc.

Setting the mood is all about allowing her to prove to herself that she is not a slut (chick-logic.) She should say to herself that "He did everything right so it was okay that I slept with him."

I can't go through all the different things you need to do to "set the mood" but if you just understand that it's just to make her feel comfortable about the encounter later (she wasn't a slut). All you guys are DJs so you should understand this.​

3. "Your Passion" After most of my ONSs and my frequent first-date sex nights, the explanation I have heard from the girl most often was “You just wanted me so much.”

In effect, she thinks to herself, he wanted me so much it wasn't really my fault.

If your passion is strong enough, it is a big enough compliment to a girl that it overwhelms the ASD.​

4. "Keep Trying". You will know when you are getting ASD when she says something like "we really shouldn't" or "we really can't" or "I really should go". Don't freak out, this is good sign.

Just let her play her little game(s) for a while. It is, afterall, very important to her (and to you in getting into her pants.)

Just proceed until you encounter the resistance, then back-off for a while. Do something else non-sexual, like go back to the movie for a few minutes, go take a long bathroom break, tell jokes in bed etc.

Then put the moves on her again until you get resistance again. Rinse, repeat.

After two or three times of this, almost all women will then feel vindicated that they have proved they are not a slut and then you can hit it.​

5. "Reverse Logic". Another really effective method is to just use reverse chick-logic psychology on her and say her "yeah you're right we really shouldn't", say it two or three different times using different words. If she's also giving physical resistance such as pushing you away or getting up to leave, I throw in a "Yeah, you really should go."

They always stay and come back for more with this move.​

6. "I Am Discrete". One of the motivations is her fear that other people will hear about it.

Never blab about it to anyone because you will get the big-gun ASD after, ie. last time.

In your pre-work dating, you should also never brag about any specific sexual conquests and especially any specific woman you have bagged. It is actually good if she asks you and you say "well I don't ever kiss and tell." This will get around her other fear that you will telling other people about it, even new girlfriends years down the road. Letting her know you are discrete is also a big part of breaking down her ASD.​

7. "Taste the Honey". There are a number of SS patterns designed to get her to drop her a ASD shield. I am not going to type them all out.

The point of this is to let her know that you only live once, we're both mature adults, its natural to be apprehensive, we have an incredible connection, "taste the honey" when its right in front of you.​

8. "Get Her Juices Flowing" Have you ever noticed that when you get a hard-on, you are ready to go right away.

Chicks are the same, they want to fvck when they get wet, when their puss gets engorged with blood, when it's stimulated.

Do some dry humping on her. Feel her up. Get those juices flowing.

Sounds a little crass but it is SO effective.​

9. "Set It Up For Next Time". There may be a time when its clear she is telling you "No." If it sounds like "No, not this time but maybe next time." Keep your cool and let her say No. Women will actually feel better about having sex with you in the future if she's knows she can say No once in awhile and you won't get upset about it. You're much more likely to get sex any time you want after this.

If it sounds like "No, I don't think we'll ever get together." Tell her "Wow, you are the biggest tease I've ever seen" and just get up and leave and leave her alone after. She'll probably come back apologizing after and you can set up a "Returning Fox".​

The anti-slut defense may continue to be needed by some women for a long-time into a relationship so you may need to vary your techniques some but just realize this is important to her.

Keep adding to your toolbox.

Golden.

 

[lookyoung]

Update fellas I texted her no I am not mad at all.

Approach 4 textes back... Hmmm are u sure. You seemed mad like you didn't care for me too much.



I will not text her back for a few days I am going to freeze her out.... Let the games begin..

 

[Charm]

Or you could say "Lets talk more over ice cream tonight. Ill come by around 7pm"

 

[JustDoItAlways]

I should add a ...

10. "Strike while the Iron is Hot" after you have done No. 9 right and set it up for next time properly.

Freezing a girl out when she has already gotten over her ASD and is now properly primed and ready to go is the same as "getting upset" in No. 9 and screwing up the "Set It Up for Next Time" tool.​