Date backup plans

[Murk]

I've never really done backups as the majority of my dates were scheduled after work near my old office in the city and never on a Friday. If any flakes I'd just go home and get a good nights sleep for the next day but I rarely experience flakes, it's usually me flaking.

I have a date tomorrow with a Ukrainian blonde HB7.5 (slim, ukranian looking, but that's not really my type), I matched on OLD last week. She seems fun, could be a refugee from the war as her English is borderline. I kept comms to a minimum, set up the date and time (8pm) and she agreed. We are meeting literally 5 min drive from my house in a local area where there are bars and clubs etc it's about 20-30 min from her house too.

However, I also promised my boy we would go out and look for girls this Friday as his kids are away and he never gets friday nights to do stuff, so I've kind of double-booked both. My plan was to just have a couple drinks with this girl for 1-2 hours then meet my boy and hit some bars/clubs.

She voice noted me just now she's been sick with flu for a couple days (which is not actually possible) so no kissing on the date. I know this means she wants to kiss and likely fvck so I could just get her back to my place for wine and chill.

However, if the date is not going well, or she's more a HB 5/6 in person (I already got catfished last Tuesday but the girl ubered straight to my house so I smashed anyway), or she just want to leave early, I want to have my backup available to make the most of the Easter Friday where I'm sure there will be lots of girls out.

Any suggestions on how to play it?

 

[FinallyAlpha]

She voice noted me just now she's been sick with flu for a couple days (which is not actually possible) so no kissing on the date. I know this means she wants to kiss and likely fvck so I could just get her back to my place for wine and chill.

Interesting take on her r3tarded flu message. How do you figure it's a subliminal message that she's DTF? Maybe I'm too aspy in these spots.

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As to the overall question, I guess if you're double booking girls, then fine, have at it. But double booking a OLD with a night out with a male friend seems sh1tty to your friend, unless you've explained the situation to him? It sounds like you have drinks and gaming with your buddy as a backup. If I was him, I wouldn't want to be a backup. I'd prefer if you cancelled with loads of notice so that I don't lose my Friday.

 

[Murk]

Interesting take on her r3tarded flu message. How do you figure it's a subliminal message that she's DTF? Maybe I'm too aspy in these spots.

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As to the overall question, I guess if you're double booking girls, then fine, have at it. But double booking a OLD with a night out with a male friend seems sh1tty to your friend, unless you've explained the situation to him? It sounds like you have drinks and gaming with your buddy as a backup. If I was him, I wouldn't want to be a backup. I'd prefer if you cancelled with loads of notice so that I don't lose my Friday.

I have not mentioned any kissing or sexual things with this girl, she said she's nervous, excited but sick so no kissing. that to me just reads as it's on her mind, she sounded fine, she's been out and about all week so there's no way she had the flu. It's just a hunch I have no way of knowing her intentions but I side with the err of DTF every time.

My friend knows, he wants me to get her to bring a friend but I think first date shouldn't really be a double date but I guess it could work?

 

[Dr.Suave]

Bros before H0s.

For you, this would mean giving priority to hanging out with your bro over your date.

For your bro, it means he should be encouraging you to go on the date, maybe telling you someting like "Bro, is she´s not dtf, kick her out and come join me. But if she´s hot and dtf, forget about me, we can always hang out later, or next time".

 

[Murk]

Bros before H0s.

For you, this would mean giving priority to hanging out with your bro over your date.

For your bro, it means he should be encouraging you to go on the date, maybe telling you someting like "Bro, is she´s not dtf, kick her out and come join me. But if she´s hot and dtf, forget about me, we can always hang out later, or next time".

We just had a phone call that was basically this. We are meeting up as soon as he finishes work and gets ready, then by the time 8pm rolls, he will let me see this girl for a few drinks, then we are going to another place. I'll update how it goes tomorrow.

 

[RazorRambo24]

I've dubbed more girls to hang out wit my boys than prob most dudes.. That's what comes from havin cool ass friends and abundanc eand knowing you can get an hot chick yo uwant.. Now that I'm older I try not to dub anyone and if I make plans, I stick to them.

But, regardless, if a girl told me some sh.t like "im down to hang but no kissing" id just pass on her.. thats just me though. I don't like when women come up wiht these weird rules.. I woulda jus told her stay home and hit you up when shes not sick lol

 

[Dr.Suave]

But, regardless, if a girl told me some sh.t like "im down to hang but no kissing" id just pass on her.. thats just me though. I don't like when women come up wiht these weird rules.. I woulda jus told her stay home and hit you up when shes not sick lol

Thta´s fair. Now that I think of it, It is weird. Is she legit has/had flu, she should be counter-offering to meet next week or something, instead of this werid "Yeah Im down to hang but no kissing" thing.

 

[Knight of Roses]

In my nice guy days I would look forward to a date with a girl only to be devastated when she flaked on me.

Now I’m always double booking. I’ll cancel on the girl who I want to see least or the one who confirms second. There’s new girls turning 21 every damn day, so abundance is plentiful.

I would see how date is going and if it’s good then smash, If not, then bounce to your friend

 

[The Duke]

When a girl says she can't kiss because she has been sick it tells you where her mind is. She has thought about it and wants to.

Or she tells every guy this same line because she dropped those panties too fast in the past and is trying to protect herself.

Either way, have a nice date then go out with your boy.

 

[Murk]

She much better in person looks about 22, refugee from the war been here 1 month living with Ukrainian sponsors that been here 8 years. First date in the UK she’s had. Typing this like a nerd while she in the toilet. I’m going for it.

 

[bat soup]

It's good to have a backup plan as women in general are unreliable. It's typical for them to come up with excuses and lies if they change their scatty minds or get what they think is a better offer. It's always best to meet in a place that's convenient for you and have an idea about what you'll do instead if she doesn't turn up or makes some last-minute excuse. I wouldn't normally double book, but that is an option if you have lots of unreliable leads.

A woman giving you excuses to keep you at a distance or avoid kissing are definitely not a positive sign. The less excuses and the less stupid BS the better. One thing that I noticed when I was in Ukraine was that the women there are experts at extracting money from guys. I think a lot of them see foreign guys as desperate idiots with big wallets.

 

[BeExcellent]

I've never really done backups as the majority of my dates were scheduled after work near my old office in the city and never on a Friday. If any flakes I'd just go home and get a good nights sleep for the next day but I rarely experience flakes, it's usually me flaking.

I have a date tomorrow with a Ukrainian blonde HB7.5 (slim, ukranian looking, but that's not really my type), I matched on OLD last week. She seems fun, could be a refugee from the war as her English is borderline. I kept comms to a minimum, set up the date and time (8pm) and she agreed. We are meeting literally 5 min drive from my house in a local area where there are bars and clubs etc it's about 20-30 min from her house too.

However, I also promised my boy we would go out and look for girls this Friday as his kids are away and he never gets friday nights to do stuff, so I've kind of double-booked both. My plan was to just have a couple drinks with this girl for 1-2 hours then meet my boy and hit some bars/clubs.

She voice noted me just now she's been sick with flu for a couple days (which is not actually possible) so no kissing on the date. I know this means she wants to kiss and likely fvck so I could just get her back to my place for wine and chill.

However, if the date is not going well, or she's more a HB 5/6 in person (I already got catfished last Tuesday but the girl ubered straight to my house so I smashed anyway), or she just want to leave early, I want to have my backup available to make the most of the Easter Friday where I'm sure there will be lots of girls out.

Any suggestions on how to play it?

My advice would be to ditch the Ukrainian chick and reschedule when she’s over the flu or whatever. Go meet your boy & see where the night takes you.

It’s probably already late there so….

How’d you end up playing it?

Nevermind, lol. Just read the whole thread. Good

 

[RBK]

Girl says she has flu this is a preemptive flake its coming. Save face and ditch her now.

 

[Murk]

Flu was a lie, just smashed and ubered her home.

Please Let this bea lesson, if a women mentions anything sexual she’s dtf.

I really like this girl.

She did seem shy so assuming under 20-30 bodycount, that’s now my benchmark, oh
How far we’ve fallen.
Going back out with my boy who I might add solidly wingmanned me the whole night and pulled his own girl,

The state of the world is truly appalling

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Interesting take on her r3tarded flu message. How do you figure it's a subliminal message that she's DTF? Maybe I'm too aspy in these spots.

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As to the overall question, I guess if you're double booking girls, then fine, have at it. But double booking a OLD with a night out with a male friend seems sh1tty to your friend, unless you've explained the situation to him? It sounds like you have drinks and gaming with your buddy as a backup. If I was him, I wouldn't want to be a backup. I'd prefer if you cancelled with loads of notice so that I don't lose my Friday.

Typically when a woman says stuff like that...no kissing, we aren't having sex, etc it's almost like she is hoping to have that stop you from trying because she really knows she won't be able to say no if you do so it's like a preemptive strike against you attempting anything

 

[Murk]

Typically when a woman says stuff like that...no kissing, we aren't having sex, etc it's almost like she is hoping to have that stop you from trying because she really knows she won't be able to say no if you do so it's like a preemptive strike against you attempting anything

I said that, green flag, before we even met I knew what time it was, I'm a handsome guy. Yeah got some push back but she liked me, so slim and feminine, she literally melted in my arms she 5’3 so I’m a giant to her. These Eastern Europeans are so feminine and sexy. I’m sprung. Going out Sunday for a day rave so lets see what happens. I called her n HB 7. 5being conservative - having met her defo a solid 8. Lots of hugging and kissing, introduced her to my boy (pretended we just met there), she danced with me, let me touch her up, back to mine for great sex. I feel genuinely sprung lol. I told her I think the war is a lie, I don't believe in the Russia Ukraine war, by the time she realises I'm set apart from the world it will be too late.

I turned "I've had the flu so no kissing" into sex, and predicted it beforehand, please believe in me.

 

[FinallyAlpha]

@Murk sick, well played.

what push back did you get and how did you navigate it?

P.S. don't catch feelins!

 

[Dr.Suave]

Nice!!!

 

[Ricky]

Good work!

 

[Murk]

Ok so was pretty drunk when I posted the above, no way I’m catching feels just got caught up in the night.

The push back was just that she was stand off ish initially, nursed her drink for about an hour while I drank 3 in that time, didn’t seem like she wanted to get drunk, her sponsors I guess warned her to be careful as she’s only been in the country a month and I was her first date, she texted them twice while we were out, my boy came over and we pretended we’d just seen each other, bought some shots, she then started drinking more and let me buy her drinks, when I went to kiss her and she kinda pulled back, kept her close, tried again 10 seconds later and she obliged. I’d say typical behaviour of a non slut who is getting gamed



She already asked when can we do that again I'm going to give it a day and reply tomorrow.