dat feeling when they read your message, but no reply

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lol facebook message or whatsapp, you know they have read it and when they were active

You asked a question, but for some reason, they chose not to reply, now there could be many reasons, maybe they were busy or plan on replying later when they have time, but you instantly take it personally and assume she is ignoring you, which may or may not be

either way, is annoying as fuk, because when a girl messages you, most guys reply instantly or do reply in a matter of a couple hours, not 8 or 24 hours, but I guess that is the power women have over men. This is something I extremely dislike, I hate being ignored, just as much as I hate when you are trying to talk to them, spend time with them, and they take out their phones, start playing or texting

There is not much you can do in this situation if you send another message asking if she read the first, you will come off as desperate, a creep, stalker, if you just wait and don't reply, and she doesn't bother to reply, well nothing happens lol either way you lose

In summary, if you are successful with a particular woman, it will be because of what or how she feels at the moment, everything will be in her hands, she is the one who decides what happens or what doesn't happen, you are at her mercy
 
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I perfectly understand the frustration you feel, I was used to take it personal as much as you do, a hit to my value, a bash to my ego and a sensation of lack of power.

Now I simply take it as a favour, there are no such things as "no answer", when she doesnt reply or takes forever to do it she is communicating something important.

She is communicating that she doesnt care about you, she doesnt respect you or she is simply not afraid at all of losing you by pissing you off and disrespecting you.

She is letting you know that all you get from her is a second place treatment if you're lucky and a huge amount of frustration and resource wasting in most cases.

A girl which value a guy hardly plays games or has such attitude, if not out of respect for him, surely for fear of him leaving her if she passes the limit.

So be thankful to those b1tches, she allowed you to avoid so many annoying situations.

I dont know what kind of guy are you, but Im the trigger happy one and there are no such things as the "3 strikes rule", in my case one single deliberate disrespect and she is out, its common sense even before self respect.
 

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I perfectly understand the frustration you feel, I was used to take it personal as much as you do, a hit to my value, a bash to my ego and a sensation of lack of power.

Now I simply take it as a favour, there are no such things as "no answer", when she doesnt reply or takes forever to do it she is communicating something important.

She is communicating that she doesnt care about you, she doesnt respect you or she is simply not afraid at all of losing you by pissing you off and disrespecting you.

She is letting you know that all you get from her is a second place treatment if you're lucky and a huge amount of frustration and resource wasting in most cases.

A girl which value a guy hardly plays games or has such attitude, if not out of respect for him, surely for fear of him leaving her if she passes the limit.

So be thankful to those b1tches, she allowed you to avoid so many annoying situations.

I dont know what kind of guy are you, but Im the trigger happy one and there are no such things as the "3 strikes rule", in my case one single deliberate disrespect and she is out, its common sense even before self respect.
Well, is not like I don't know her. We went out a couple times and even had sex. She friend requested me on facebook, which means, she somewhat must care about me or have curiosity, but I avoid talking to her on there or comment anything. I'm not active on facebook. I even have a script on google chrome that it deactivates facebook chat. I simply sent her a message after I approved her request, that I'm glad she is doing well, and maybe if she ever comes to town (which she seems to do every year, she lives in another state) we can hang out, or go out, she said she hopefully if i visit we can catch up

that was 3 weeks ago, now I decided to send her a message when she wasn't online around 1am, saying hello, and if she plans on coming for spring break or when. She read the message around 2am and it shows she was active on facebook 3 hours ago, so I don't know, I guess she doesn't care or maybe she is working or busy, also is not like she has a boyfriend or married

such is life

many would say, don't jump to conclusion, or you are reading too much into, but is impossible not to feel this way
 
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Well, is not like I don't know her. We went out a couple times and even had sex. She friend requested me on facebook, which means, she somewhat must care about me or have curiosity, but I avoid talking to her on there or comment anything. I'm not active on facebook. I even have a script on google chrome that it deactivates facebook chat. I simply sent her a message after I approved her request, that I'm glad she is doing well, and maybe if she ever comes to town (which she seems to do every year, she lives in another state) we can hang out, or go out, she said she hopefully if i visit we can catch up

that was 3 weeks ago, now I decided to send her a message when she wasn't online around 1am, saying hello, and if she plans on coming for spring break or when. She read the message around 2am and it shows she was active on facebook 3 hours ago, so I don't know, I guess she doesn't care or maybe she is working or busy, also is not like she has a boyfriend or married

such is life

many would say, don't jump to conclusion, or you are reading too much into, but is impossible not to feel this way
My post was a general one, not stricly related this particular situation.

Regarding your case, there is not much to read in it, she saw a message from you and didnt bother to reply, she either lost interest or she is playing some kind of mind game.

Anything is possible even that you did something of no meaning and she read it as something bad therefore she wants to "punish" you by not answering.

I once had a girl storming my place after an entire night of unprotected anal sex because I didnt have anything for breakfast the follwing morning and told me the week before that she likes to do a huge breakast...
 

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latino158, Wake Up! You are stuck in victim mentality and don't even seem to know it! Open your eyes! You and your life are NOT, NOT, NOT, NOT, at the mercy of women! You are NOT without choice! You are NOT powerless!!!

You asked a question, but for some reason, they chose not to reply, now there could be many reasons, maybe they were busy or plan on replying later when they have time, but you instantly take it personally and assume she is ignoring you, which may or may not be.
Her lack of reply is not the issue. The issue is you are reaching out seeking validation and your irritation is that you are not getting it. Work on your sense of self so that you are already complete within yourself and are not ever seeking validation from a woman (or anything outside yourself.)
way, is annoying as fuk, because when a girl messages you, most guys reply instantly or do reply in a matter of a couple hours, not 8 or 24 hours, but I guess that is the power women have over men.
This is your victim mentality actively perceiving yourself as a victim to women. You are not a victim! Women do not have power over you! YOU have given women authority over YOUR sense of self by seeking their validation to feel good about you. YOU have given YOUR power away! Take it back! Take responsibility for feeling good about yourself BEFORE you ever engage a woman. Otherwise you will never be indifferent to her whims, emotions and feelings. You'll be riding her roller coaster ride. Get off of that. Be responsible for yourself! It's an illusion that anyone, including women can give you a deep positive regard for yourself. What they offer is fleeting, until they ignore you, look at you wrong, or look at someone else. Go for the real thing. It is inside yourself, not outside. Enjoy women, absolutely, but never create your sense of self from their opinion or regard for you.
This is something I extremely dislike, I hate being ignored
You are like an addict wanting a validation fix. In certain circumstances, it can be an issue of respect. Unless you are self validated and indifferent, you'll never be able to really call a woman out on disrespect as underneath it, you need her to keep validating you.
There is not much you can do in this situation
Victim mentality perceives powerlessness. It sees no choice. Open your eyes and open your perception. You are always at choice. If you do not like what you are experiencing make a different choice.
if you send another message asking if she read the first, you will come off as desperate, a creep, stalker, if you just wait and don't reply, and she doesn't bother to reply, well nothing happens lol either way you lose
You can have a life that is so full and big that no part of you is waiting for her reply. If you get a text or call from her, great. You notice it when it happens, not because you are holding your phone waiting for it.
In summary, if you are successful with a particular woman, it will be because of what or how she feels at the moment, everything will be in her hands, she is the one who decides what happens or what doesn't happen, you are at her mercy
Take women and pvssy off the gigantic pedestal you have placed them on. You are so desperate for their approval and validation, you come across as helpless, just hoping they will respond and throw you some crumbs of attention and validation. Yikes!!! Your sense of self worth is mistakenly placed way outside yourself. That is not a healthy place to have it. You have given it to others to ignore, devalue, and discard without a sense of care. You are the keeper of your own self worth. Take it back! Claim it! Take a purposeful break from women and engage in activities that solidify your sense of self worth from the inside out. Until you do that, you have a sign on your forehead that makes you a target for BPD and other woman who will take you for a ride so insane, you didn't know it was possible. Get healthy from the inside out. Take your power back. If you find yourself seeking validation from others, catch yourself and stop. It's a deeply ingrained habit. Until you correct it, you are target for many to take advantage of you and actually play out the story that you are a victim. You have the opportunity to take another path. Take care of yourself from the inside-out!
 
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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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My post was a general one, not stricly related this particular situation.

Regarding your case, there is not much to read in it, she saw a message from you and didnt bother to reply, she either lost interest or she is playing some kind of mind game.

Anything is possible even that you did something of no meaning and she read it as something bad therefore she wants to "punish" you by not answering.

I once had a girl storming my place after an entire night of unprotected anal sex because I didnt have anything for breakfast the follwing morning and told me the week before that she likes to do a huge breakast...
I don't see how asking if someone is coming for spring break, would be something bad, especially when I never chat with her or comment on her facebook, I have no activity on facebook, is not like I act like a creep constantly sending messages, giving likes, and ****.
 

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latino158, Wake Up! You are stuck in victim mentality and don't even seem to know it! Open your eyes! You and your life are NOT, NOT, NOT, NOT, at the mercy of women! You are NOT without choice! You are NOT powerless!!!

Her lack of reply is not the issue. The issue is you are reaching out seeking validation and your irritation is that you are not getting it. Work on your sense of self so that you are already complete within yourself and are not ever seeking validation from a woman (or anything outside yourself.) This is your victim mentality actively perceiving yourself as a victim to women. You are not a victim! Women do not have power over you! YOU have given women authority over YOUR sense of self by seeking their validation to feel good about you. YOU have given YOUR power away! Take it back! Take responsibility for feeling good about yourself BEFORE you ever engage a woman. Otherwise you will never be indifferent to her whims, emotions and feelings. You'll be riding her roller coaster ride. Get off of that. Be responsible for yourself! It's an illusion that anyone, including women can give you a deep positive regard for yourself. What they offer is fleeting, until they ignore you, look at you wrong, or look at someone else. Go for the real thing. It is inside yourself, not outside.
You are like an addict wanting a validation fix. In certain circumstances, it can be an issue of respect. Unless you are self validated and indifferent, you'll never be able to really call a woman out on disrespect as underneath it, you need her to keep validating you.
Victim mentality perceives powerlessness. It sees no choice. Open your eyes and open your perception. You are always at choice. If you do not like what you are experiencing make a different choice.
You can have a life that is so full and big that no part of you is waiting for her reply. If you get a text or call from her, great. You notice it when it happens, not because you are holding your phone waiting for it.
Take women and pvssy off the gigantic pedestal you have placed them on. You are so desperate for their approval and validation, you come across as helpless, just hoping they will respond and throw you some crumbs of attention and validation. Yikes!!! Your sense of self worth is WAY outside yourself. That is not a healthy place to have it. You have given it to others to ignore, devalue, and discard without a sense of care. You are the keeper of your own self worth. Take it back! Claim it! Take a purposeful break from women and engage in activities that solidify your sense of self worth from the inside out. Until you do that, you have a sign on your forehead that makes you a target for BPD and other woman who will take you for a ride so insane, you didn't know it was possible. Get healthy from the inside out. Take your power back. If you find yourself seeking validation from others, catch yourself and stop. It's a deeply ingrained habit. Until you correct it, you are target for many to take advantage of you and actually play out the story that you are a victim. You have the opportunity to take another path. Choose wisely.

what lol

First, I never give compliments on women in real life, let alone, facebook, in fact, I hate guys who constantly shower them with compliments, boosting their egos. Second, I have my facebook and whatsapp chat off. I never comment on facebook on anyone's pictures or statuses. I never give likes. I never post statuses myself. I haven't posted a single picture of myself in 6 months. I'm basically a ghost in social networks.

I would understand being called a creep and seeking validation, if you constantly message a girl, asking what she is doing, what she likes, if she thinks you look good in a picture or something. I never chat with anyone, never send messages.

I'm not stupid and have been around enough to realize that women dislike a guy who seeks attention, validation, who is constantly checking on them, sending text, messages, etc, so I avoid coming accross that way like the plague.

It still won't change how I and many others feel about it, you cannot control, because feelings and emotions are subconscious processes. You may say, well, don't feel that way, but that is not how the mind works.
 

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I don't see how asking if someone is coming for spring break, would be something bad, especially when I never chat with her or comment on her facebook, I have no activity on facebook, is not like I act like a creep constantly sending messages, giving likes, and ****.
I didnt say that you did anything wrong, but that something perfectly normal you did may have been seen from her as a provocation, lack of care or whatever an illogical female mind can create, thats why that kind of treatment from her.

Just hypothesys hard to say, anyway dont think too much about it, no girl is worth the headache let alone the ones trying to provoke one.
 

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what lol

First, I never give compliments on women in real life, let alone, facebook, in fact, I hate guys who constantly shower them with compliments, boosting their egos. Second, I have my facebook and whatsapp chat off. I never comment on facebook on anyone's pictures or statuses. I never give likes. I never post statuses myself. I haven't posted a single picture of myself in 6 months. I'm basically a ghost in social networks.

I would understand being called a creep and seeking validation, if you constantly message a girl, asking what she is doing, what she likes, if she thinks you look good in a picture or something. I never chat with anyone, never send messages.

I'm not stupid and have been around enough to realize that women dislike a guy who seeks attention, validation, who is constantly checking on them, sending text, messages, etc, so I avoid coming accross that way like the plague.

It still won't change how I and many others feel about it, you cannot control, because feelings and emotions are subconscious processes. You may say, well, don't feel that way, but that is not how the mind works.
I am not calling you a creep. I am not calling you stupid. My intent is not to attack you.

Some people can spend their whole lives stuck in a victim mentality and not even know it. The thought process you posted reflects a victim mentality. There is no judgement. Let go of that thought, if you have it. My post was simply a wake up call--if you are open to it and want it.

A life spent walking after a carrot that someone else dangles on a stick, in front of them is very different than having their own vegetable garden to always choose from.

My sharing was intended as an invitation to experience yourself, to experience women and to experience your life completely differently. What I wrote may not make sense to you. That is quite possible. If and when it does, it will revolutionize your experience and your whole life.

There is no judgement in anything shared, it is just for your awareness and opportunity, if you want it. Everyone experiences victim mentality at different stages and to different degrees. It's easy to remain in the cycle of suffering, powerless/victim, polarity and stuckness. It is not a fun cycle or way to live life. It can be hard to find the way out if you are unfamiliar with the path. My intent was simply to help you find the bridge to the next level. Across that bridge you'll feel empowered and experience life accordingly. From there even more bridges and opportunities can appear. No judgement, just opportunities.
 
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lol facebook message or whatsapp, you know they have read it and when they were active

You asked a question, but for some reason, they chose not to reply, now there could be many reasons, maybe they were busy or plan on replying later when they have time, but you instantly take it personally and assume she is ignoring you, which may or may not be
They chose not to reply because your question isn't relevant to them, it's doesn't affect them. They won't answer your question to fulfill your ego or emotion, they will answer it if it affects them.

You have to be careful with texting/twitter/Facebook/email. You always have to keep frame and not wait for an answer to fulfill a emotional need. It also lowers your value to text, she can show it to her boyfriend to increase her value.

either way, is annoying as fuk, because when a girl messages you, most guys reply instantly or do reply in a matter of a couple hours, not 8 or 24 hours, but I guess that is the power women have over men. This is something I extremely dislike, I hate being ignored,
Of course you do, like most people. Girls know this and use it to their full advantage to make you nervous/upset/see how many options you have/how desperate to you are.

Anyway bro it's not about "them having power over you', it's about you losing frame. Before you open your mouth or text or email, make sure you know what you are saying. Don't just say something expecting her to quickly respond because she did before. Make sure you know what you are asking and that it's relevant to her. Otherwise she won't care.

just as much as I hate when you are trying to talk to them, spend time with them, and they take out their phones, start playing or texting

There is not much you can do in this situation if you send another message asking if she read the first, you will come off as desperate, a creep, stalker, if you just wait and don't reply, and she doesn't bother to reply, well nothing happens lol either way you lose

In summary, if you are successful with a particular woman, it will be because of what or how she feels at the moment, everything will be in her hands, she is the one who decides what happens or what doesn't happen, you are at her mercy
Again bro, they are not paying attention because you haven't given them a reason to pay attention. Give them one good reason to pay attention to you and not fiddle with their phones when you are talking other than you have male parts and want to sleep with them, and they will keep all their focus on you.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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sounds like nothing more than blue pilled advice lol keep the focus on yourself, live on your own life, move on, don't allow yourself to feel this way, don't feel depressed, don't let it hit your ego or esteem, etc

If it only were that easy.

Things like this happen because men have given women too much power, they have elevated average women to level completely undeserved, you see it everywhere, in real life, but mostly on social media. Facebook and its friends have turned every idiot into a celebrity with fans and white knights following them.

Now, youtube with all their stupid pranks and approaching/pickup fake videos and ****. Game is nothing more than men trying to gain the approval of women. Why do you have to submit and do everything for her to like you? Why do you have to be the ones to approach? initiate?

Why are we expected to do everything?

Why if a man is unable to get a girlfriend, he is considered a virgin loser, but if a woman is single, she simply has many options.

Society, in general is set up to **** up man, probably because society is ruled by men. We have to do all this ****, all these hard work, go through all this bull**** crap tests, all this **** to makes her like us, afraid of not making a mistake, come off as good as possible just to get your **** wet for 20 minutes?
 

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sounds like nothing more than blue pilled advice lol keep the focus on yourself, live on your own life, move on, don't allow yourself to feel this way, don't feel depressed, don't let it hit your ego or esteem, etc

If it only were that easy.

Things like this happen because men have given women too much power, they have elevated average women to level completely undeserved, you see it everywhere, in real life, but mostly on social media. Facebook and its friends have turned every idiot into a celebrity with fans and white knights following them.

Now, youtube with all their stupid pranks and approaching/pickup fake videos and ****. Game is nothing more than men trying to gain the approval of women. Why do you have to submit and do everything for her to like you? Why do you have to be the ones to approach? initiate?

Why are we expected to do everything?

Why if a man is unable to get a girlfriend, he is considered a virgin loser, but if a woman is single, she simply has many options.

Society, in general is set up to **** up man, probably because society is ruled by men. We have to do all this ****, all these hard work, go through all this bull**** crap tests, all this **** to makes her like us, afraid of not making a mistake, come off as good as possible just to get your **** wet for 20 minutes?
theres no answer to any of this, most people in general are super lame, it is what it is, just try to enjoy the small things or whatever else you have in your life at the moment, just be happy you arent living in some ****hole in the middle east about to get your head cut off or starving to death in africa

its ok to be upset and depressed about things, its ok to hold on to your resentments as long as you can use them to fuel your fire and get better at something like the gym or work or whatever, but if you cant harness it you could become a george sodini or elliot roger

me personally, i try to get by with internet porn, substance abuse, and weight lifting/martial arts
 

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I agree with OP to an extent...

It's rude behavior from a male or female and has little to do with seeking validation.

People who don't display common courtesy in general, annoy the piss out of me.

Even if it were some big fat well or my cousin Ted who lives in Idaho....it just reeks of disrespect and a lack of personal manners.

It would be nice to call these people out and snack them upside the head, but the socially acceptable thing that shows you have lots going on is to act like you don't care or don't notice it.

I don't know about u guys, but someone waljs up in real life slsps me in the face....I am damn well going to care.
 

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Blue pill fggts let that stuff hit their self esteem because blue pill men validate themselves through women. A red pill person knows that women are what they are, and thus they do not centralize their focus on them trying to be something more ideal. Thus a red piller would not focus on needing women to validate them. No, if they do not respond to you then it is just b!tch behavior, and you just shuffle it off and realize that it is pathetic instead of crying about it.
I sense wining and crying, that is the thing which I dislike here. That is a sign of weakness. You do have victim mentality, and a victim mentality is the same mentality that Feminists b!tches have.
Rise above it, live by your own convictions and yours alone.
 

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When this happens online, it's a deletion. They may reach out or not, but regardless, I'm not being an orbiter.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Don’t feel hard done by son

Every guy in the world has had it done to him at some point it’s because of the ridiculous amount of power women have gained during the last few decades

Most women assume her value to be far beyond any “normal guy” until you “prove yourself” to her

sadly that’s the attitude taken by many young women these days , but what they don’t realise is that there assumed power has an expiration date on it and once they get past 30 they’ve got problems because the new generation of pu$$y has bloomed and the attention starts to diminish

on top of that the social pressure for a woman to find herself a good man and have a child with him becomes massive ,

suddenly she has to change her attitude but an entire decade’s worth of arrogance and ignorance doesn’t go away easily and she struggles to adapt to her new dating climate in which SHE becomes second best to the younger tighter pu$$y thats on the market

i can see depression rates in women going through the roof in the next 10 years
 

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Same thing for me, but i learned that she had done me a favor, big ones! Maybe she just dont wanna see me looking more desperate and loosing my frame deeper as im damn sure that at the first place she thought of me as that cool guy lol. Anyway you cant force a conversation if she doesnt want to mate. Think of it that way.
 

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Currently have a woman who did the exact same thing to me, probably will have a few more do it by the end of the weekend. They'll come around, or not. Fire and forget, my friends.
 
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