Cute guy with zero game. Thats all that matters.

[corrector]

What does all of this mean? That means you simply explain away rejection, why things didn't go right, all that little introspection on how that could have worked beter, etc... and put an imaginary 10/10 guy, see how he would just coast along with an easy time and now you don't feel so bad. The imaginary 10/10 guy will say they are superficial and the women are completely to blame, not your lack of game or whatever you felt was socially uncalibrated!

At the end of the day it wasn't a bad routine, you didn't neg at the right time, your opener was too lame, you convo was too boring or lame, or you came across to nervous or shy (which may be indirectly related to your looks?) but you weren't the 10/10 guy from GQ magazine or Brad Pick lookalike.

And as for those profiles from women online...all they do is peddle false hope. That's right you are in denial as they are. You don't have a chance no matter what you write, etc... and the sooner this is understood then the less you care about it. It should really be on the same level as a fiction or fanasy novel, they are all fake.

If you need to get laid within a reasoanble time with a hot girl either use an escort or simply look at porn and masturbate because you not the 5% of guys who are born genetically gifted. Game bullsh1t only works if you are a 7 or higher on looks otherwise it's as good as toilet paper.

 

[PapiChulo]

This dude is a just a really good-looking gay guy, that's all.

 

[JdelaSilviera]

Oh common, you guys just come here to whine and don´t even try to get women in the real world.

This guy has a decent body, but it´s not good looks. If that´s your criteria, I bet 90% of the forum can become like him.

1) Most women are ugly or fat. And you see lots of ugly couples, where they def don´t chose the partner by the way he looks.

2) About hot girls, honestly? I see very few with very good looking guys. Even if women were super strict in looks criteria (e.g. what they find good looking) you are only proving the point that they don´t chose their partner based on looks, because most guys are also ugly. Even if you consider the guy good looking, she might very well not... What I notice in hot girls, is that they all date the weirdest/cool guys, photographers, artists etc..

From my social circle and around, I can point to many cases where the guy who is dating the hot chick is indeed ugly. Of course these guys are super fun to be with, very socially aware, charming etc.

 

[Yo'Mama]

Unless this girl is on heat I doubt most girls would act that way in real life, even with a very good looking guy. If she was ugly maybe.

 

[Iceberg]

2) About hot girls, honestly? I see very few with very good looking guys. Even if women were super strict in looks criteria (e.g. what they find good looking) you are only proving the point that they don´t chose their partner based on looks, because most guys are also ugly. Even if you consider the guy good looking, she might very well not... What I notice in hot girls, is that they all date the weirdest/cool guys, photographers, artists etc..

From my social circle and around, I can point to many cases where the guy who is dating the hot chick is indeed ugly. Of course these guys are super fun to be with, very socially aware, charming etc.

I've always been hesitant to say that...because of the pages of conversation/argument that would ensue...but I notice the same thing.

Rarely do I ever see the perfect "Barbie and Ken" couple strolling arm-and-arm through the park. 6'5" dark-haired guy with a 6-pack, and his model girlfriend smiling at him. Oh yes, it happens. But if you listened to guys on sosuave, you'd think that hot girls ONLY date model guys. It's simply not true. Yes, you have to be attractive in SOME way. No one wants a hairy, sweating, fat arse. But we're men....nature gave us bodies of utility. Workers bodies. Women got the bodies of admiration. And in exchange for women getting the work-of-art bodies, nature gave us something to balance things out - nature made women attracted to things OTHER than purely looks.

A male "6" can become an "8" in women's eyes far more easily than a female 6. Looks matter to women...I'd never deny it. But so do passions. So does ambition. Success. Confidence. Charm.

A think a segment of men here have been beaten up by the dating game so badly that they'll never see themselves as viable candidates for women. And another segment of men here are just mentally and emotionally unfit....I mean, let's face it...not everyone is cut out for this game. But for the guys who are willing to work on their looks, personalities, passions and admit their own flaws (not just the flaws of women), there will be women for you. Not one. A multitude.

Blaming women for not being interested in you is like a store owner blaming you for not buying their product. You can either sell what people are buying or you can go out of business.

 

[youngmack]

Game bullsh1t only works if you are a 7 or higher on looks otherwise it's as good as toilet paper.

Forreal? If your saying that only a 7 or a higher or basically a decent looking to very attractive dude can run game and be successful.. whereas a 6 and under or a not so attractive guy would fail with "game" then i concur.

These days it seems like even if you had some very good game but your not attractive you would fail and look like a creep vs if your attractive with any type of game to no game at all you will succeed because your looks will carry you.

[[Im speaking in accordance to my age group 14-19..im 16]]

 

[PapiChulo]

Hell, this dude is rather be gaming the sexy guys on the beach than her. There, he needs no game when it comes to women.

 

[floydb25]

To the anti-looks crowd: don't forget that many women will settle until something better comes along. Many of these average guys are placeholders. It's not like there's a plethora of hot, single guys running around looking for relationships. So, its not so simple for Barbie and Ken. Most good looking people also can't stand eachother, and don't always last together. But, you can bet these hot girls are jumping from guy to guy until they find "hot and sweet". They are also ****ing a lot of these hot guys they date, and typically last longer with them.

I have experienced this **** so many times. Fortunately, it was as the hot guy (in their eyes; who's to argue with them?), so I'm not complaining or whining. Just stating facts as they happened.

There's a whole world of difference when you're considered hot. I also had the experience of being unattractive, and know how that works, as well. It's like 2 different dimensions of reality. Just like these guys who post fake PoF accounts. That's really what its like from the other side. Women treat you COMPLETELY different based on your looks. And you can bet your ass they'll dump their boyfriend for you in a heartbeat, or even cheat on them with you - if they consider you more attractive. All while talking about how looks don't matter, they don't want to be used for sex, they're looking for a relationship... Blah blah. The same **** they say to average nice guys. But they still have sex with you, and go against everything they say - literally as they're saying it. In that respect, a lot of claims these bitter guys are complaining about are accurate. From the other side - their perspective is pretty spot on.

However, guys are no different. They're complaining about these HOT girls all the same. They're equally as shallow and hypocritical. They don't want to settle for decent, but expect a HOT girl to. You can bet your ass if they were highly sought after - they'd act the same way as these hot girls. But they're not, so they complain about it instead. It's akin to all the overweight girls complaining about HOT guys being shallow, and wanting the barbie skank. They do the same thing with guys, and would barbie skanks in a heartbeat if they could. They certainly wouldn't lower their standards, or date a fat guy.

 

[Trump]

To the anti-looks crowd: don't forget that many women will settle until something better comes along. Many of these average guys are placeholders. It's not like there's a plethora of hot, single guys running around looking for relationships. So, its not so simple for Barbie and Ken. Most good looking people also can't stand eachother, and don't always last together. But, you can bet these hot girls are jumping from guy to guy until they find "hot and sweet". They are also ****ing a lot of these hot guys they date, and typically last longer with them.

I have experienced this **** so many times. Fortunately, it was as the hot guy (in their eyes; who's to argue with them?), so I'm not complaining or whining. Just stating facts as they happened.

There's a whole world of difference when you're considered hot. I also had the experience of being unattractive, and know how that works, as well. It's like 2 different dimensions of reality. Just like these guys who post fake PoF accounts. That's really what its like from the other side. Women treat you COMPLETELY different based on your looks. And you can bet your ass they'll dump their boyfriend for you in a heartbeat, or even cheat on them with you - if they consider you more attractive. All while talking about how looks don't matter, they don't want to be used for sex, they're looking for a relationship... Blah blah. The same **** they say to average nice guys. But they still have sex with you, and go against everything they say - literally as they're saying it. In that respect, a lot of claims these bitter guys are complaining about are accurate. From the other side - their perspective is pretty spot on
.

Never understood this argument from the anti looks crowd. If you have an above average product that a lot of people want, doesnt your asking price go up? Same thing with hot girls, why would they settle for an average guy with an average job and average car when they know they can get more bang for their buck?

The guys on here who complain that hot girls only want the hot guys are the same ones who hold out for the highest bidder on their hockey cards, doesn't make sense.

 

[zekko]

What does all of this mean? That means you simply explain away rejection, why things didn't go right, all that little introspection on how that could have worked beter, etc... and put an imaginary 10/10 guy, see how he would just coast along with an easy time and now you don't feel so bad. The imaginary 10/10 guy will say they are superficial and the women are completely to blame, not your lack of game or whatever you felt was socially uncalibrated!

I was reading a thread on RSD recently where a guy was claiming that things like visualizing yourself as a 10 and such was actually bad for you. Because you create this reality in your head, and when the real world doesn't match the picture in your head (which it inevitably won't), you get dissappointed. I'm for optimism, but this makes a lot of sense to me.

Here's the thread for those intereseted:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/226031/forum

Game bullsh1t only works if you are a 7 or higher on looks otherwise it's as good as toilet paper.

I've wondered about that at times. When I first started studying seduction, I watched the first few episodes of The Pickup Artist. It kind of annoyed me that Mystery kept the good looking ones and kicked off the guys who didn't look the part first. Because he was claiming he could turn anyone into a great pickup artist. But the first thing he did was get rid of the scrawny geeky looking guys. Nice way to prove it, Mystery.

Then I'm always amazed when I read a post by a guy who came here, read a little pickup material, and all of a sudden he's flooded with chicks. It seems obvious that such a person must have had all the tools to attract women, but maybe just had a self limiting belief or some small flaw standing in his way. Remove the little hindrance, and wham! it's like the floodgates opened.

Never understood this argument from the anti looks crowd. If you have an above average product that a lot of people want, doesnt your asking price go up? Same thing with hot girls, why would they settle for an average guy with an average job and average car when they know they can get more bang for their buck?

Um, because the guy has game?

Seriously, the one thing I've noticed that can make up for lack of looks is charisma. Some guys I've known, they just have that personality that is somehow larger than life, and they draw people to them. They're just instantly likeable somehow, or even if you don't like them they're at least interesting to be around. It's a hard thing to describe, or quantify. But anyway, I've noticed that these guys are usually the first, or at least among the first, to get girls attracted to them. But they were all naturally charismatic. I've never known anyone who reinvented themselves into having that kind of personality - they grew up that way.

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

maybe since the woman was in her 30's, maybe thats why she is over guys with "game"

 

[garruk]

lol this was all over bodybuilding

the guy had game, was disconnected at times, and also good looks can be acquired if you work hard enough at them

this is the truth! good looks matter but nearly anyone can be decently good looking.

i wasnt born with great looks at all. but i bust my arse in the gym, take care of my hygiene, and dress well. that puts me above the average person EASY.

guys have it EASY. a girl is stuck with what she's born with (looks). but a guy, no matter where he starts in life can rise to the top with hard work (getting a good job, getting jack3d in the gym, etc).

 

[garruk]

I've always been hesitant to say that...because of the pages of conversation/argument that would ensue...but I notice the same thing.

Rarely do I ever see the perfect "Barbie and Ken" couple strolling arm-and-arm through the park. 6'5" dark-haired guy with a 6-pack, and his model girlfriend smiling at him. Oh yes, it happens. But if you listened to guys on sosuave, you'd think that hot girls ONLY date model guys. It's simply not true. Yes, you have to be attractive in SOME way. No one wants a hairy, sweating, fat arse. But we're men....nature gave us bodies of utility. Workers bodies. Women got the bodies of admiration. And in exchange for women getting the work-of-art bodies, nature gave us something to balance things out - nature made women attracted to things OTHER than purely looks.

A male "6" can become an "8" in women's eyes far more easily than a female 6. Looks matter to women...I'd never deny it. But so do passions. So does ambition. Success. Confidence. Charm.

A think a segment of men here have been beaten up by the dating game so badly that they'll never see themselves as viable candidates for women. And another segment of men here are just mentally and emotionally unfit....I mean, let's face it...not everyone is cut out for this game. But for the guys who are willing to work on their looks, personalities, passions and admit their own flaws (not just the flaws of women), there will be women for you. Not one. A multitude.

Blaming women for not being interested in you is like a store owner blaming you for not buying their product. You can either sell what people are buying or you can go out of business.

great post. male 6s can def be 8s through a little hard work. but a female 6 is a female 6.

 

[corrector]

guys have it EASY. a girl is stuck with what she's born with (looks). but a guy, no matter where he starts in life can rise to the top with hard work (getting a good job, getting jack3d in the gym, etc).

Yeah, but most girls are beautiful. You really don't see ugly women out there that often. If you put an "average" or below "average" girl on POF or something, yeah, even she's going to get inbox messages without effort because there are plenty of desperate men out there fighting for women. If 5% of guys get most of the girls, then what about the other 95% of guys...they fight for the other 20% of undesirable women. That is why looks don't even matter to a woman as long as she's femine and doesn't look like a guy.

Guys have it more difficult to find work then women do in the economy. In case you didn't see the news, most of the solid manufacturing jobs have left the country. The economy has more service orientated jobs that simply have more women working on it.

If you are a guy, you don't have a good job, and are living at home, then what is having a jacked body going to do for you? Suppose you get past 40 in age? I think most women, except if they have some sort of "curse" on them, have an easier time even if they are ugly and fat as there is always desperate guys out there that will do anyone with a vagina.

 

[Burroughs]

ore service orientated jobs that simply have more women working on it.

If you are a guy, you don't have a good job, and are living at home, then what is having a jacked body going to do for you? Suppose you get past 40 in age? I think most women, except if they have some sort of "curse" on them, have an easier time even if they are ugly and fat as there is always desperate guys out there that will do anyone with a vagina.

very true

and the real tough times are still to come

all great thinkers and wise men of earlier times knew that male sexual frustration destroys society from within....men need to have EASY SEXUAL RELEASE THROUGH OBEDIENT WIVES OR PROSTITUTES CLOSE AT HAND or else men have NO INCENTIVE TO WORK.

notice what is happening around us...we have a nation of emasculated peter pan boys playing diablo 3 while their female counterparts persue their sex and the city delusions shopping, complaining, fvcking faggots, and eating their lives away one designer cupcake at a time.

 

[ladyzman]

No he has game. but it's easy to when you know the girl wants to **** you. And he know's how to smell blood too LOL. Dude acted like a total sleeze ball inside 4 min of the video, by telling her he had got a MOTEL and wanted her to come back to jump in the jacuuzi, suggesting sex in the beginning of the date. No escalation, none of that needed. After she said "are you trying to get romantic with me?" (she was obviously offended, but knew he could get away with it) he goes "I'm paying for it [the room] might has well use it". He wastes no time. But like the Host said, looking like a CK model helps haha.. thanks for the vidoe. It was entertaining.

 

[TopGun2000]

very true

and the real tough times are still to come

all great thinkers and wise men of earlier times knew that male sexual frustration destroys society from within....men need to have EASY SEXUAL RELEASE THROUGH OBEDIENT WIVES OR PROSTITUTES CLOSE AT HAND or else men have NO INCENTIVE TO WORK.

notice what is happening around us...we have a nation of emasculated peter pan boys playing diablo 3 while their female counterparts persue their sex and the city delusions shopping, complaining, fvcking faggots, and eating their lives away one designer cupcake at a time.

this

 

[Vice]

He had cameras following him around, which puts the two of them in a "bubble of love".

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

and this was not acting at all?