Cute guy with zero game. Thats all that matters.

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1.) He has game.

2.) So what if looks matter. Look your best and play your game.
 

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3. slut's are gonna slut
 

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looks matter like 75% of the time and luck matters the rest.
 

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He had no game in my opinion.

I guess that's subjective, but to me he was your typical, run of the mill, dull guy.

She did all of the work. His looks carried him the whole way through.

It just proves something that should already be common knowledge; both sexes care about looks and if you're attractive enough, you can get by.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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looks can only get your so far...


This dude doesnt have 0 game. He dumbed down his game to catch the bimbo.
 

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He did pretty good. He was laid back, wasn't going crazy for her, didn't try too hard, didn't bombard her with questions, was relaxed, easy-going, and light-hearted, made her laugh, and let her chase him. He played it cool, and she loved it.

What do you think game is, exactly? Being fake, acting like a douche bag, charming her pants off, being ****y and sarcastic, busting her chops, talking about shallow topics, bragging about status, acting like a social clown, looking and acting like a bad boy / player? He was just being himself. Imagine that.

I think there's a lot of over-exaggeration on what is required to attract women - based on stereotypes and personal failure. It's not that complicated - only in your head. I do this kind of **** all the time, and it works great. You don't need any special skills, or be some badass extravagant super exciting alpha king pin. Just be a decent, cool, laid back, interesting guy. Looks matter a lot, of course.

Stop listening to DeAngelo, PUA's & co. They don't know anything. They're living in a fantasy world - right across from the nice guys. The blue pill is in the middle. Reality is very simple and easy. Just as he just showed.

A lot of guys make attracting women out to be bigger than it is. Likely because they're not successful, and make too many assumptions. They're still pedestalizing them.
 

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floydb25 said:
He did pretty good. He was laid back, wasn't going crazy for her, didn't try too hard, didn't bombard her with questions, was relaxed, easy-going, and light-hearted, made her laugh, and let her chase him. He played it cool, and she loved it.

What do you think game is, exactly? Being fake, acting like a douche bag, charming her pants off, being ****y and sarcastic, busting her chops, talking about shallow topics, bragging about status, acting like a social clown, looking and acting like a bad boy / player? He was just being himself. Imagine that.

I think there's a lot of over-exaggeration on what is required to attract women - based on stereotypes and personal failure. It's not that complicated - only in your head. I do this kind of **** all the time, and it works great. You don't need any special skills, or be some badass extravagant super exciting alpha king pin. Just be a decent, cool, laid back, interesting guy. Looks matter a lot, of course.

Stop listening to DeAngelo, PUA's & co. They don't know anything. They're living in a fantasy world - right across from the nice guys. The blue pill is in the middle. Reality is very simple and easy. Just as he just showed.

A lot of guys make attracting women out to be bigger than it is. Likely because they're not successful, and make too many assumptions. They're still pedestalizing them.
I think the point here is that he didn't have to do anything or make any serious effort because as soon as they met, she was instantly attracted to him physically. He coasted the rest of the way

Suppose it had been someone not as attractive. Do you think he could have handled it the same way? As in, be aloof, nonchalant, seem a little disinterested at times?

I would argue no. A less attractive man would have to make up for it.

And that's the point that's made on this board every day.

"Being yourself" only works when the woman already wants to bang you because of your looks. For those that are not as attractive, personalities have to be fleshed out.

I do agree that some take this "game" thing way too serious, and being natural is the most successful way to do it.

But you can't act like the way this guy performed on the date would have worked just as well for someone less attractive.
 

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MisterD said:
I think the point here is that he didn't have to do anything or make any serious effort because as soon as they met, she was instantly attracted to him physically. He coasted the rest of the way

Suppose it had been someone not as attractive. Do you think he could have handled it the same way? As in, be aloof, nonchalant, seem a little disinterested at times?

I would argue no. A less attractive man would have to make up for it.

And that's the point that's made on this board every day.

"Being yourself" only works when the woman already wants to bang you because of your looks. For those that are not as attractive, personalities have to be fleshed out.

I do agree that some take this "game" thing way too serious, and being natural is the most successful way to do it.

But you can't act like the way this guy performed on the date would have worked just as well for someone less attractive.

THIS.....this is it. I concur 100%...This is also validates my post that looks will take you a long way !
 

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Game = marketing

If you have a sh*t product, no one's going to buy.

But on the flip side, you can have the best product in the world but no one's going to buy it if it isn't marketed well.

Take just about any Apple product. I think they're great. But there's no denying that marketing is a major contributing factor to their success too.

I don't think a lot of people claim that tight game can enable a fat, smelly slob to land a smokin' hot babe. But it can elevate your average Joe's level of success with women substantially.
 

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Please watch and comment...

Blind date. Cute guy, with no game whatsoever. Girl that likes him instantly. Boring date...so what? he banged her anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzo2I2glzqg&feature=relmfu

I've seen that video before.

When I trolled POF with the perfect 10, 6ft, tan with a seriously boring profile but top 2% in pictures I saw for myself that words mean nothing. Denial of not caring about looks but personality from women etc. Literally tested with WELL over 100 women of different ages from all over the US. (I made him 28 for a median age.) Chicks from all over 18-40 replied like they couldn't restrain themselves. Let three or four exchanges go through..no matter how hot they looked in pictures or how 'nice' they came across...and gave them the old 'read/deleted'. A few I had to even block for persistance.

God as my witness the most boring, bland "Hey what's up toots?" intro email with his pictures attached..literally got a 98% response rate (only TWO chicks never replied) and continuous questioning and push for conversation from all of the 'sweeties' online. THEM trying to turn the conversations sexual, numbers tossed towards 'me' without even asking, IM chats initiated by numerous chicks so much so that I had to turn the im feature off, unsolicited emails, nude pics, you name it.

Ask women in threads on the forums on POF about looks vs. personality? 98% will blatantly lie claiming they care more about personality though I proved to myself positive that if you could see their inbox replies and conversations the rest of the countless guys who've tried their best would see the reality of the B.S.

To most women looks are a huge difference between a guy being a 'smooth player' and an 'annoying creeper'. True story.

Basically with that test I proved to myself that talk is just talk. Talk is cheap. Actions are what matters from a chick period. It's actually amusing to listen to the fairytales they feed guys for their own princess 'public relations' purposes.
 

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Naughty Ninja, were those girls looking to just fvck or for something more significant.
 

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Mister: exactly. The point is, looks DO matter to these "hot" women. I emphasized this in the quoted post you made.

Notice how she wanted someone gorgeous, good looking, cute, and commented directly on his face. This contradicts the people around here who are saying facial looks don't matter - only appearance does. Therefore, having game and all this crap without looks is futile with these kind of women. You need looks first and foremost to get in the door. That's also the only way being a challenge works. You have to attract them first. And no, not by being confident, messing with their heads, and all this nonsense. That comes secondary, but is still important.

These girls aren't going to settle when they KNOW they can land a hot guy. Before calling them shallow sluts - men are the same way. ****, I was for the longest time - until the shallowness wore off. I didn't care if an average girl played games, did all this crap listed on here, etc... I wasn't interested. Nothing was going to change that. They were just wasting time. But if a hot girl did it - the game was on. Now, I was intrigued.

Women are the same way. They have to be infatuated with you before any of this stuff works. A lot of hot girls are shallow, and do have high standards. ****, they have standards beyond just looks. Being hot is almost mandatory for them. They look for hot + whatever rediculous demands they have in a mate.

This girl is like so many of her ilk. She wanted someone HOT and sweet. Not just sweet, and not just good looking. Hot and sweet. This is also why so many of them end up with bad boys, players, and jerks - they're hot. You can't be an average guy, develop these traits, and have the same kind of success. Just like the hot *****es men chase after and over-tolerate - women do the same thing with bad guys.
 

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Naughty Ninja, were those girls looking to just fvck or for something more significant.
They all wanted to meet up. Most of them were pushing sexual conversation to 'hook' the 10. Literally on the third reply was something sexual mentioned. That's when I simply read/deleted them. LMAO.

He was called a 'pimp' 'player' 'smooth' and the emails were bland as fvck.


Another thing I've noticed is travelling to other countries. Any one that has and has no problem talking to people will have their minds COMPLETELY BLOWN as to the amount of GORGEOUS 10s that will have a normal conversation with them. I've been to other countries for weddings, family, visiting and when out at night, day just striking up conversations with total knockouts was EASY as hell...and not one of those foreign chicks from Italy, Columbia (not the prostitutes that desperate dudes looking for a wife go after either. You're normal everyday Columbian chick.)etc acted like she was a 10 nor talked like a typical brainwashed American chick. They actually knew more about what's going on in this country than people that live here!

IE:When I saw with my own eyes the amount of chicks when I went out in Italy at night who were dead staring at me and SMILING and had no issues whatsoever with talking, joking etc. (I'm talking chicks that literally looked like they walked off a shoot for the best beauty pagent contestants of all time. Not only were their figures PERFECT they had faces that you couldnt stop staring at. Like you were in an awe like trance over how gorgeous they were and your brain frying over the ease of conversation and amount of intelligence, non feminist, and media brainwashing that chicks in the US are loaded with.)

If they had American and european chicks, Columbian chicks etc in the same room with dudes from here?? LMFAO. They American princesses would all be left high and dry and would have to throw the pvssy at any dude to try to get him to stay with them.

Ever wonder WHY there is so much shaming of dudes who go abroad to find a wife? WHY do westernized chicks get sooo defensive and pissed? (I personally would never do that. But that's another topic.)


God as my witness. Go to another country. Go out. Talk to chicks. You'll see for yourself the reality of gorgeous chicks you could have and have no problems holding a normal conversation with almost no effort. It really opens your eyes to how liberals, the media and feminisim are completely destroying the clueless sheep who are 'princesses' in the US. No joke.
 

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Naughty Ninja said:
I've seen that video before.

When I trolled POF with the perfect 10, 6ft, tan with a seriously boring profile but top 2% in pictures I saw for myself that words mean nothing. Denial of not caring about looks but personality from women etc. Literally tested with WELL over 100 women of different ages from all over the US. (I made him 28 for a median age.) Chicks from all over 18-40 replied like they couldn't restrain themselves. Let three or four exchanges go through..no matter how hot they looked in pictures or how 'nice' they came across...and gave them the old 'read/deleted'. A few I had to even block for persistance.

God as my witness the most boring, bland "Hey what's up toots?" intro email with his pictures attached..literally got a 98% response rate (only TWO chicks never replied) and continuous questioning and push for conversation from all of the 'sweeties' online. THEM trying to turn the conversations sexual, numbers tossed towards 'me' without even asking, IM chats initiated by numerous chicks so much so that I had to turn the im feature off, unsolicited emails, nude pics, you name it.

Ask women in threads on the forums on POF about looks vs. personality? 98% will blatantly lie claiming they care more about personality though I proved to myself positive that if you could see their inbox replies and conversations the rest of the countless guys who've tried their best would see the reality of the B.S.

To most women looks are a huge difference between a guy being a 'smooth player' and an 'annoying creeper'. True story.

Basically with that test I proved to myself that talk is just talk. Talk is cheap. Actions are what matters from a chick period. It's actually amusing to listen to the fairytales they feed guys for their own princess 'public relations' purposes.
I can agree with that because I've also done it with the same results! the funny thing is the messages I got were so stupid they made me laugh. on their profile the complain about guys only saying "hey what's up?" or commenting only on their looks, yet THEY DID THE SAME D@MN THING TO ME! i sh!t you not. probably 90% of the messages were nothing more then "hey", "hi", "hey what's up/how are you?", "u r cute!"...goofy sh!t like that. no conversational skills whatsoever, no creativity, no nothing but sheer idiocy.
 

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Yeah... Guys, never believe what women say in regards to what they want (or hate / don't want). They contradict themselves so much - your head will explode. Don't become angry over this, or anything. Just accept it and adapt, cause its not going to change. Never become too worked up over something you can't control. Just causes problems for yourself.
 

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I can agree with that because I've also done it with the same results! the funny thing is the messages I got were so stupid they made me laugh. on their profile the complain about guys only saying "hey what's up?" or commenting only on their looks, yet THEY DID THE SAME D@MN THING TO ME! i sh!t you not. probably 90% of the messages were nothing more then "hey", "hi", "hey what's up/how are you?", "u r cute!"...goofy sh!t like that. no conversational skills whatsoever, no creativity, no nothing but sheer idiocy.

Brother I've seen THREADS of guys saying the SAME EXACT thing. Women who complain...yet send the EXACT boring "Hey what's up?" email to guys. I got them on the 10 profile, my real profile etc. NOT ONE went beyond that in the first email.

They figure. I have a pvssy. I'll send whatever I want while laying my a$$ on the couch with nothing to offer but my pvssy. This guys cute and looks good in his pictures. All I have to do is be a woman with a pvssy and he'll reply. Hopefully he lives up to all my requirements.

Once you see all the nonsense on that site and know for a fact the reality of what that site really is. You say. Fvck it. Troll the **** out of it. Amuse yourself and never return.

I never have and never would waste any of my time bothering dating a chick off there let alone meeting one and possibly catching some STD. I meet more than enough in my part time job to ever get desperate for that.

Troll for n00dz? Yes. Meet them? Fvck no. It truly is Adult Friend Finder the light version. It's just they are banging the best looking or meeting other chicks to lez off with. (TRUST me there are tons of them doing that too. They get sex while leaving the profile up and hoping some 10 will offer them everything they ever wanted.)
 

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floydb25 said:
Yeah... Guys, never believe what women say in regards to what they want (or hate / don't want). They contradict themselves so much - your head will explode. Don't become angry over this, or anything. Just accept it and adapt, cause its not going to change. Never become too worked up over something you can't control. Just causes problems for yourself.
here's how I look at it. you ever have a friend that will lie about stuff? i mean about ANYTHING, even if the truth would be just as good. they'd rather climb a tree and tell a lie then stand on the ground and tell the truth. some of his lies aren't exactly flat out lies, more "truth stretches" really. he's lied so much that you find where you absolutely can NOT trust ANYTHING he tells you anymore, even if it may very well be the truth? that's how i view women. they've lied themselves into oblivion to where i'm skeptical of the truth when they very well may be telling it. it's not that what they say and what they do bothers me, it's that i've seen the lies, been told the lies so many times that i've become immune to it and so when they do tell the truth i think they're lying.
 

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here's how I look at it. you ever have a friend that will lie about stuff? i mean about ANYTHING, even if the truth would be just as good. they'd rather climb a tree and tell a lie then stand on the ground and tell the truth. some of his lies aren't exactly flat out lies, more "truth stretches" really. he's lied so much that you find where you absolutely can NOT trust ANYTHING he tells you anymore, even if it may very well be the truth? that's how i view women. they've lied themselves into oblivion to where i'm skeptical of the truth when they very well may be telling it. it's not that what they say and what they do bothers me, it's that i've seen the lies, been told the lies so many times that i've become immune to it and so when they do tell the truth i think they're lying.

That's because most people prefer 'exciting' lies over boring truths.
 

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