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Cut the bull****, live an honest life

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Stop lying! My ambitious gentleman and accomplished Don's, stop lying.

Honesty in all aspects of your life is the key to getting the girls you want, and achieving the happiness you may be missing in your life. Are you a virgin? Don't lie. If the question of your sexual exploits and virginity comes up, don't lie to make yourself sound cool. If you lie about your accomplishments, all you will be doing is putting unnecessary pressure on yourself to perform up to high standards that are beyond your understanding and capability.

Think about it, if you don't hype yourself up to appear cooler and more accomplished then you are, you will be relieving yourself of many unnecessary pressures. People won't be expecting things of you that you can't deliver.

Gentleman, the key word here is humility. Even people like Donald Trump exercise humility. I was watching The Apprentice, and Donald made fun of his hair cut. Donald was making fun of his hair while sitting in a board room in complete domination of his surroundings. One of the most powerful people in the world was jokingly insulting himself. Why? Because he is not a liar, and he recognizes and accepts reality. Yes, Donald tries to make the best of reality, but he won't try to disguise a fault. Instead, Donald turned a fault into a positive by showing he was not insecure about it. It's an attitude like that that helps make great men.

Lying is caused by insecurity. If you're lying about something, then you're insecure about something. And we know no one including ladies gravitate towards insecurity. Accept your faults. Don't be ashamed that you may not be as accomplished as your fellow man.

Each of us are meant to progress at a different pace for a reason. Embrace your pace, and flaunt your uniqueness.

In every aspect of your life, question your honesty. If you want to ask a girl out and you don't, are you being honest with your feelings? No, you're not. You're basically lying to that girl by not asking her out. In school and in your job, don't copy other people's work or take credit for accomplishments that aren't yours.

Be virtuous. In the end, we attract creatures that mirror ourselves. If you're some guy that has hooked up with three girls and never done more than lick some nipples, would you really feel comfortable being with a girl that has had eight sexual partners? Probably not. Screech simply wasn't the right fit for Kelly.

If you act fake and put up a false front, you're going to attract fake girls who also put up a false front. Do you really want that?

Are you fat because of poor genetics, or are you fat because you choose to eat cookies and cake in between meals? Be honest, don't lie to yourself to make yourself feel better. You're not fooling anyone.

People with experience in a subject matter recognize other people with experience in the same subject matter. If you pretend like you're some pimp, you won't be fooling anyone but yourself. In addition, you'll lose respect, and delay your chances at finding the right person who is as inexperienced as yourself to learn new sexual things with.

It takes balls to speak and live honestly. However, if virtuousness is at the root of your every move, freedom will be yours.
 

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Good post! I'm not sure how 'great' of a man Donald Trump is though, after all, he did go bankrupt on all his casinos. This lacks integrity, considering he didn't have to do it, only out of greed.

Why should we idolize a cheater? Much can be said for many CEOs, because anywhere there is big business, there is often corruption. Hmmm .. MCI, AOL, Microsoft, Enron ...
 

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tmpgstx, I'm not so much referring to Donald being a great person as I am referring to the greatness of his accomplishments and the position of greatness he presents himself in in his show.

Donald is greedy, as are all very wealthy and successful business- men. But I didn't write my post to start a debate over Donald Trump. I was merely trying illustrate how humility is below no man.
 

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
Good post! I'm not sure how 'great' of a man Donald Trump is though, after all, he did go bankrupt on all his casinos. This lacks integrity, considering he didn't have to do it, only out of greed.

Why should we idolize a cheater? Much can be said for many CEOs, because anywhere there is big business, there is often corruption. Hmmm .. MCI, AOL, Microsoft, Enron ...
You think NOT HAVING MONEY is bad. Try HAVING TOO MUCH money. Big buisneses have bilions, and billions, and it's all over the place. They need 20-30 accounting firms, just to figure out where it's all at....... SOME OF TH MONEY IS BOUND TO GO MISSING. There is too many greedy people (like me:D ) out there.
 

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Straying off topic guys...

This is a great post Spokes. Honesty is one of the most important building blocks of integrity. Integrity is what is going to earn you the lady of your dreams! It's so true what you said about like attracting like. Possessive, greedy, insecure, dishonest, lazy, you name the trait, you'll see couples that match. And on the plus side, confident, ambitious, intelligent, honest couples also match.
 

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Girls LOVE guys that have been with a lot of other girls (although never tell them). My number is always 5 (2 past girlfriends, 3 one night stands, although "I never do that anymore").

But they all know about my reputation and that I am always out with different girls.

All girls want what the other girls want, and all want to be that lucky one that can "tame the beast".

So, no, being virtuous and not sleeping around will not get you with the same kind of girls. My two seroius long-term girlfriends were both virgins and both were totally in love.
 

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I agree 100% with what everybody is saying.

I have to say, there is a much greater satisfaction in being completely honest than lying and worrying about paying for it later. In most cases, usually under pressure to tell the truth, I'll stay quiet before I tell a lie. I dunno, it's just me. I think it's normal when being held at fault to sometimes not want to take responsibility.

It's funny though, I know a guy who is a compulsive liar... he will tell allllllllll kinds of stories to make himself sound smart or make himself look cool. It's so bad, that if you listen to a story of his long enough, you'll hear him contradict himself with something he said minutes earlier! Not only is he a liar, but he's BAD AT IT! lol The point, though, is this guy has the least amount of friends out of anybody I know. He is incompatible with just about everybody I know, and on top of that, is the probably one of -thee- worst AFC's I know. Serious issue problems, here. I don't know, maybe it's bad karma against liars, but in my life, everybody whom I've met like this has always had something horrible about themselves that they are desperately trying to hide.

I'm in no way trying to say I'm perfect, however, I've done my fair share of lying, and ultimately paid for it in the end. I'm just glad I learned from my mistakes.

BTW, Clooney, I think he was refering to being honest to yourself. Not trying to cheat yourself by holding yourself up to something you're deep down, not really at all. I have another friend like this... he kinda actually looks like Eminem... I've known this guy for a while, and he takes it 10 steps further than it should be taken. Some people say it's because of the way he's brought up, which could be true. Needless to say, he's got a tattoo on his arm that says "D12 1/2". He tries to mimick Eminem, based on his music and what limited knowledge he knows about him. I notice his fake @ss attitude, and see right through it. There was a point, though, when I got to see who he really was. He seemed like all his insecurities were gone, and he was being who he truely was. He was actually a damn cool guy for a while. It confirmed, to me, that when he acted like he normally did, that it was fake. Needless to say, this guy ****blocked me with chances for a couple of girls, so I no longer hang out with him. It's a damn shame, really.
 

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Originally posted by Spokes



Be virtuous. In the end, we attract creatures that mirror ourselves. If you're some guy that has hooked up with three girls and never done more than lick some nipples, would you really feel comfortable being with a girl that has had eight sexual partners? Probably not. Screech simply wasn't the right fit for Kelly.

I dont think this had any relation to a friend of yours trying to act like Eminem. The rest of the post was good, and yes, is the truth, only ever be yourself. However, this part is pretty straight forward to me, and I do not agree with it whatsoever.
 

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Re: Re: Cut the bull****, live an honest life

Originally posted by CLOONEY
I dont think this had any relation to a friend of yours trying to act like Eminem. The rest of the post was good, and yes, is the truth, only ever be yourself. However, this part is pretty straight forward to me, and I do not agree with it whatsoever.
I'm mainly getting at bird's of the feather flocking together. You can't find your feather if you don't be honest with yourself and show your true colors to the outside world.

Skweints post was legitimate and clarified what I said. Cloonz, about you dating virgins, i'm guessing you just got to those girls when they were young so they hadn't had time to fully explore. However, you evoked a latent nature in them that they weren't trying to hide.
 

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I also have to add, and I wish I added this before... about my friend. He is decently successful with women, I'll give him that. He can hook up with girls, because of the way he acts. Being over here [in Japan], having that hip hop artist's edge actually helps. (I don't know if you know, but Japanese women, most between the age of 21-24 are in LOVE with the hip hop culture.) Anyways, despite all the "ass" he's been getting, he is STILL not a happy person. I'm talking genuinely happy. But, because of his insecurities, he ends up driving these girls away. From every girl that I talk to that has been with him, they've all told me the SAME THING... he gets weird and overprotective. I believe this stems from the fact that he gets jealous that some other guy might overrun him and steal the girl away from him... the whole reason he ****blocked a few girls I could've hooked up with... I found out he was trying to hook up with them, too. Anyways, this full circles right back to this post about not lying and being yourself, and letting people accept you as who you REALLY are, and not who you try to act like.

If you think that I'm telling you to be yourself, well, you're right, I am. However, here's the catch. If who you are RIGHT NOW doesn't attract women, then you NEED to change yourself into someone who can. I can go out, be myself, and pull women. This is because I've learned to change what I needed to change. He has to dress up and act like a hip hop star to pull women. At least I don't have to worry about later on, unlike him, when he DOES start acting like himself, and the girl splits.

But if you're just after a piece of ass, well, whatever you gotta do is whatever you gotta do. After all, that's what this board is all about, right?
 

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Excellent post - one of the best I've read for a long time!

One of the things that people like most about me is that I am genuine. People feel at ease around me and feel like they can trust me and confide in me.

Unfortunately I lost sight of that for a while and tried too hard to cover my faults and act like someone I'm not (****y, arrogant etc) and I lost a lot of people's respect and trust in the process.

I learned my lesson.
 

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I totally agree. I recently (by accedent in fact) told a girl my true age at a bar. To my surprise, she remained quite interested! Sure, she said "ohhh youre too young!" but she put her hand on mine and looked deep into my eyes while she said it =)

Its like when people change their haircolor. No matter how amazing it looks, it can never fit their features and complection like their natural hair color. Even when one tans, the sun will bleach youre hair to match.

Youre sexual partner scenario was much the same. You can lie about how many women you have been with, but once you are having sex the way you act will fit the context of youre experience, no matter the complexity of youre lies.

People dont want to be lied to. They want to meet and understand other people with flaws, just like themselves. They want to fall in love with someones little imperfections.
 

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
Good post! I'm not sure how 'great' of a man Donald Trump is though, after all, he did go bankrupt on all his casinos. This lacks integrity, considering he didn't have to do it, only out of greed.

Why should we idolize a cheater? Much can be said for many CEOs, because anywhere there is big business, there is often corruption. Hmmm .. MCI, AOL, Microsoft, Enron ...
Don't hate. You can be an armchair CEO all you want, but doing what he did is something totally different.

Originally posted by Spokes
tmpgstx, I'm not so much referring to Donald being a great person as I am referring to the greatness of his accomplishments and the position of greatness he presents himself in in his show.

Donald is greedy, as are all very wealthy and successful business- men. But I didn't write my post to start a debate over Donald Trump. I was merely trying illustrate how humility is below no man.
Not sure about greedy - just they know how to be the man, rather than to work for the man - and they don't want to go back. Once you learn how to make it to the top, you really don't want to go back to the bottom. I know this - I'm doing the learning right now - and God willing, soon to be living the dream.

It's like going from being an AFC to a real man - once you become a man, you'd never go back to being an AFC, just because you could never bring yourself to do it.

Originally posted by spider_007
You think NOT HAVING MONEY is bad. Try HAVING TOO MUCH money. Big buisneses have bilions, and billions, and it's all over the place. They need 20-30 accounting firms, just to figure out where it's all at....... SOME OF TH MONEY IS BOUND TO GO MISSING. There is too many greedy people (like me:D ) out there.
Haha, I wouldn't mind having that problem.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Cut the bull****, live an honest life

Originally posted by Spokes


Skweints post was legitimate and clarified what I said. Cloonz, about you dating virgins, i'm guessing you just got to those girls when they were young so they hadn't had time to fully explore. However, you evoked a latent nature in them that they weren't trying to hide.
Actually, one didnt beleive in sex before marriage, and took 8 months (and a lot of these were living together), before she even opened her legs. She was 20 at the time.

The other, same age, and yes, probably not the purest. Although to this day, I am still her only one.

Although then again, this is the age most of the girls I date are. Still not set in their ways, and still at the age of physical perfection.

Fact is, a LOT of "good girls", like guys who are experienced. They want to "tame the beast". Feel like they are the special one.
 

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As for the post.

I have gone through various stages as Jariel mentions. Ones where I thought I was truly the man, where I was arrogant, but this didnt last too long. I find that also being shy, sometimes not totally sure, and genuine (although sometimes it is always good to lie, the truth would help nobody, i.e. a cheating mistake), definately makes a lot more girls interested. It is really a fine balance you have to strike and takes years and years of practice IMHO.
 

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Clooney, I am not really sure what we are arguing about. You seem to have a pretty good grasp on who you are, and girl's recognize that in you.

However, remember that if you lie to your girl about cheating and various other things, expect the same treatment in return.....

You guys gotta understand that if you stop lying to yourself, finding the "right" girl will become much easier for you. You'll be able to talk to a girl and guage if she's real, and up to your standards as a good person. If you wanna **** around with some insecure girl and lie to her, be my guest. But first question if you are secure yourself?
 

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^^^^^^

lol, I am not even sure what I am argueing about. I guess I am just disagreeing with the original post, only the part about finding girls equal to yourself. Just because you have been with a lot of girls, does not mean you cant find a good girl, infact I honestly beleive it works in the opposite way. If you play your cards right.

Thats pretty much all I have to say. Other than that, a lot of these guys seem to be like Machavellian, the ends justify the means, by which they definately do not. Show morals and respect for people, and the same will be shown for you! So yeah, its definately good to see some guys who try to be true to themselves and the world! Guys like you are definately becoming an endangered species in the world today!
 
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