Current Pics Please critique

[Hockey Playa]

finally learned how to use photo bucket....

heres first pic, standing regularily:http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj5/Fingland/Picture002.jpg

2nd pic: flexing
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj5/Fingland/Picture007.jpg

I know i have a lot to go still.. i didnt think im that bad for going to the gym as inconstantly as me, these pics were taken 2 hours after a workout if that matters...i know i have to do a lot more cardio, and my lower pecs never develop.... anyways tell me what u think

 

[Drum&Bass]

my lower pecs never develop

MORE FLAT BENCH
MORE DECLINE BENCH
MORE CABLE FLYS

in that order*

your shoulders need work as well, lateral raises, reverse flys and Military Press!
get that BF lower.

 

[Hockey Playa]

i do my chest once a week..should i do more?

i do for chest day
1. Flat bench
2. Incline
3.Dips
4.cable flies

what bodyfat do u think i have? i keep my diet reasonable...and i take green tea..i get at least 2 cardio per week...guess i have bad genetics

 

[I-tallionStallion]

set a goal...what do you want to accomplish? If you want both fat loss and muscle gain then do this

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114618

if you don't want to put as much effort go on a clean-bulking diet with less cardio restrictions then the above link. You won't grow unless you eat tons of protein...i'm talking in the 300s 400s and 500s. I recommend Incline bench and flat...decline i think isn't needed for you at this point. You need to do a three day full body split if you are looking for fast results

 

[EFFORT]

finally learned how to use photo bucket....

heres first pic, standing regularily:http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj5/Fingland/Picture002.jpg

2nd pic: flexing
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj5/Fingland/Picture007.jpg

I know i have a lot to go still.. i didnt think im that bad for going to the gym as inconstantly as me, these pics were taken 2 hours after a workout if that matters...i know i have to do a lot more cardio, and my lower pecs never develop.... anyways tell me what u think

i'd say get more regular with going to the gym and with your diet. Pics aren't bad btw. Just keep on plugging away at the basics.

 

[Drum&Bass]

i accidentally forgot INCLINES go before everything else.

i'd say get more regular with going to the gym and with your diet. Pics aren't bad btw. Just keep on plugging away at the basics.

true indeed

 

[Fuglydude]

You've got pretty good muscle potential in your arms. Try lowering body fat and working on delts/upper back to really get your taper to be accentuated. IMO deadlift is a very underrated exercise for your upper back.

Like someone said...keep stressing the fundamentals. Good luck.

 

[Mad Manic]

You've got pretty good muscle potential in your arms. Try lowering body fat and working on delts/upper back to really get your taper to be accentuated. IMO deadlift is a very underrated exercise for your upper back.

Like someone said...keep stressing the fundamentals. Good luck.

No, he should bulk up and add mass not go on a cut. But I agree regarding deadlifts, I don't do deadlifts since it works a lot of the same muscles as other exercises and it makes the waist blocky and the avss big. Lots of pull-ups, they're great for a wide back.

MM

 

[ducaro]

I'm an animator. The only thing I saw was the 'curious' expression made my the dots on your chest as eyes, and your naval as the mouth!

 

[Hockey Playa]

does anyone else notice i have no lower pecs lol WTF

 

[I-tallionStallion]

Mad Maniac Wrote

"But I agree regarding deadlifts, I don't do deadlifts since it works a lot of the same muscles as other exercises and it makes the waist blocky and the avss big. Lots of pull-ups, they're great for a wide back."

Wow...really deadlifts do that? Well sorry to be the partypooper but Deadlifts didn't make my waist blocky or ass big. Deadlifts are one of the best things you can do. I've been doing them a year. Pullups are good, but weighted pullups are even better for building size. Way to follow the cliche' belief about deadlifts.

 

[mrRuckus]

Wow...really deadlifts do that? Well sorry to be the partypooper but Deadlifts didn't make my waist blocky or ass big.

Have you seen this guy's numbers? He benches like 120 or something ridiculous. I don't know how you can be so anal as to worry about a blocky midsection when your deadlift would be about 150.

And i'm kind of confused. Why would using a different exercise for the same body parts keep you from getting blocky?

 

[Mad Manic]

Have you seen this guy's numbers? He benches like 120 or something ridiculous. I don't know how you can be so anal as to worry about a blocky midsection when your deadlift would be about 150.

And i'm kind of confused. Why would using a different exercise for the same body parts keep you from getting blocky?

Sorry what guys numbers? Are you referring to mine? Mine are in kgs by the way incase you was. And it's not about the weight that one lifts anyway. And yes many bbers don't deadlift because it creates a blocky waist and a big bum, that's the truth. You don't need deadlifts. And pullups work different muscles to deadlifts and are a completely different exercise. The irony of this is I could pull 200 kgs lol, I actually like deadlifts.

MM

 

[I-tallionStallion]

mrRuckus wrote

"And i'm kind of confused. Why would using a different exercise for the same body parts keep you from getting blocky?"

-thats a good point

But the real irony is that the blocky waist thing isn't true...thats whats ironic. Show me a scientific study of some sort. But to each his own i suppose. The deadlift is one of my favorite pulls and i've put on serious mass and strength from them. And why not just do pull ups and deadlifts on the same day

 

[Mad Manic]

mrRuckus wrote

"And i'm kind of confused. Why would using a different exercise for the same body parts keep you from getting blocky?"

-thats a good point

But the real irony is that the blocky waist thing isn't true...thats whats ironic. Show me a scientific study of some sort. But to each his own i suppose. The deadlift is one of my favorite pulls and i've put on serious mass and strength from them. And why not just do pull ups and deadlifts on the same day

It's not a good point at all, as I explained above. Yes the blocky thing is true, the deadlift works the obliques, core, lower back and glutes very hard so unless you're blessed with genetics in which your waist will always be small no matter what, you risk blockiness in the waIst and avss. That's why many bodybuilders don't deadlift. There's a trade off between mass/strength and aesthetics.

And as I said, pullups and rows are completely different to deadlifts. They primarily work lats, middle back and biceps but deadlifts are lower body dominant which is why they go on a 'Lower Day' on an Upper/Lower split.

'Scientific Study' - Well look at Flex Wheeler, Kevin Levrone, Frank Zane, Arnold, Franco, Dexter Jackson, Victor Martinez etc. Notice how they have a great V-Taper and narrow waists without thick obliques, core and lower back.

Then look at Ruhl, Coleman, Cutler, Yates etc. aka 'Mass Monsters'. They were stronger and deadlifted a lot and their waists are thicker, wider and blockier. There's a trade off between mass and aesthetics to an extent.

MM

 

[Hockey Playa]

MORE FLAT BENCH
MORE DECLINE BENCH
MORE CABLE FLYS


get that BF lower.

What are cable flies exactly?

 

[Mad Manic]

What are cable flies exactly?

There are 3 angles you need to use for your chest. Flat, Incline and Dips. Do Flat BB, Incline DB and Wide Dips. That's the best formula for most.

MM

 

[Quiksilver]

I don't know about wide dips man. I'm no expert, but I've lifted my share of weights on the dip bars. I've tried using a 'wide grip' for dips and I find it puts waay too much pressure on my shoulders, especially going deep.

I stick to regular(shoulder width) when I do them, because I really didn't like the feeling in my shoulders. Of course, I could be the exception, but if you feel pain in the shoulders doing wide dips I'd recommend not doing them.

For the record I worked my way up to 5x5 at bw + 60lbs, but doing wide grip dips at even bodyweight didn't feel right.

 

[I-tallionStallion]

Blockiness is genetic...not cause of deadlifts. Thats a myth that seriously needs to die.

 

[Drum&Bass]

Chest fly phat ass girl 2 !!

Personally I don't like her form but this is just to give you an ideawhat the exercise is. Its gonna hit the inner chest hard.

You can also experiment. More flys for burning out dat inside ches'!

and with any thing involving chest, Always retract your shoulders !