Cuckoldry

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http://www.news.com.au/national/mum-ordered-to-pay-back-sterile-dad/story-e6frfkvr-1226161667706

 

[Nutz]

About. Frakking. Time.

They need to institute this sort of thing in the US. She defrauded the man and IMO should be in jail, but paying him back (hopefully with interest) is a step in the right direction.

 

[Strelok]

Is that so fkning hard to put a mandatory paternity test for every kid born?
Its not that hard, it doesnt need a court to decide if a man has to pay or not...
To know this would stop many b1cthes from considering doing a cheat.

I mean women rights popping everywhere but a man if tricked into signing a paper is done no matter what.
Not only the average man but the law system also should stop pedelizing women, they can be as dirty and unhonest as any man.

 

[Warrior74]

In a judgment published this week, Federal Magistrate Stewart Brown said the mother had been negligent rather than deceitful in not telling the man of her earlier liaison.

If women aren't responsible for their actions, who is? How is this not deceitful?

The woman fought the application that she repay child support, arguing such an order would be oppressive because she was in tough financial circumstances.

Tough titty said the kitty. You think men don't have a hard time paying bills? You think child support isn't oppressive to us? Toughen up buttercup. Geese and Ganders yah?

Mr Brown said the man approached the intimate relationship with a level of irresponsibility.

Even in the end they still tried to blame the man.


It's a step in the right direction. But only a step.

 

[Zarky]

"She had him sign a statutory declaration stating he was the father..."

A fool and his money are soon parted. I'm amazed there are guys out there who are such dupes.

I blame the man. For being idiot enough to sign something declaring he's the dad. They have things like that here in California.. "POP" or P_______ Of Paternity. Forget exactly what it's called. If a guy walks into a hospital with his girl when she has her kid, the hospital will try to get him to sign this POP form which states that he's the dad. All it does is allow the state to go after him for child support. That's all it does.

Only the young and the idiots ever sign them.

EDIT: My bad. It's laughably called the "Paternity Opportunity Program." As if getting raped for child support for the next 18 years should be looked at as an "opportunity." I guess it's better than the tax dollars of non-idiots going to support the raising of the children of men idiot enough to sign this form.

 

[Boilermaker]

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Thomas Tusser !

 

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She told the court she had suffered depression and stress from an earlier abusive relationship and her memory and thought processes were not clear.

This is clever as it paints men in a bad light...

 

[Warrior74]

I have often wondered what the consequences are of not signing it on the spot.

What if I were to decline until I did a Paternity test? Would they allow that?

Would I still have Parental rights if I did not sign the paper but proved I was the Father through a Paternity test?

My brother's ex girlfriend listed him on the birth certificate without his consent. Fortunately in his case, he was not liable for child support unless both parties took a DNA test. Unfortunately she refused to take one, leading us to believe that the nephew I had grown to love was of no blood relation. This denied my brother of any paternal visitation or custody rights as well. To this day she still won't take one and we don't know the truth and she won't allow my nephew to see us. Feels bad bro.

 

[MatureDJ]

My brother's ex girlfriend listed him on the birth certificate without his consent. Fortunately in his case, he was not liable for child support unless both parties took a DNA test. Unfortunately she refused to take one, leading us to believe that the nephew I had grown to love was of no blood relation. This denied my brother of any paternal visitation or custody rights as well. To this day she still won't take one and we don't know the truth and she won't allow my nephew to see us. Feels bad bro.

That seems to be proof positive that there is good chance that the kid is NOT his.

 

[Zarky]

I have often wondered what the consequences are of not signing it on the spot.

There are no consequences. A nurse presents you with the form, you say "I decline to sign this" and hand it back to her. That's about it. If she asks why you say, "My lawyer advised me not to." Once you say "lawyer" they won't touch you with a 10-foot pole.

What if I were to decline until I did a Paternity test? Would they allow that?

Absolutely. You never have to sign anything (at least in California) re parentage. If the court, after a DNA test, finds that you are the father, it will make its court-orders regarding child-support without you signing anything.

Would I still have Parental rights if I did not sign the paper but proved I was the Father through a Paternity test?

Yes. The form does NOT give a 'father' parental rights. It only allows him to petition the court for parental rights, which you can do even without signing the form (though you'd have to get a DNA test.) All the form does is put you on the hook for child support for 18 years so the state doesn't have to pick up the tab.

Can your Brother declare he "thinks" he may be the Father and demand a Paternity test?

In California, yes, unless the woman is married. If she's married, the child is presumed to be the husband's, unless the husband challenges it. If the husband challenges parentage, and some other dude petitions the court for a DNA test, then the other dude can be legally recognized as the father if the DNA tests show he is. If the husband doesn't challenge parentage, then even if the kid is clearly not his (eg., he and the wife are both white and the kid is black), the kid is still presumed to be his, and no other dude will be allowed to request a DNA test to prove it's his.

 

[Zarky]

The form exists so that the state can rope men into paying for children, so that the state doesn't have to. It's not in a man's interest at all to sign it.

 

[englishman]

I love the way she played the victim of male abuse card, such a skank

(She told the court she had suffered depression and stress from an earlier abusive relationship and her memory and thought processes were not clear.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/mum...ad/story-e6frfkvr-1226161667706#ixzz1aPQ6uFbE[/I] )





Another thing is what did it do to him psychologically? One minute your the father of a child and then suddenly this is just another person and also you've been cuckooed.

If women do this and it can be proved that they did this knowingly why arent they charge with a criminal offence, fraud etc..?

 

[Mr.Positive]

Now let's take it one step further.

What if you are married and you do not sign the Birth Certificate until a Paternity test has been done?

What are the ramifications? Does anyone know?

If you are married, I'd think you are considered the father by default, whether you sign the certificate or not.

I was told about a guy in the military who got stuck paying child support for a child that was not his. He was away overseas, and some girl who was just a casual friend of his...put his name as the father on the certificate. Of course, he never knew about it being overseas.

He comes home, and gets smacked with child support. He never even had sex with this woman. Apparently, you have a limited time to contest the certificate. If you don't, you are screwed. You are guilty until proven innocent.

I would assume you could sue the woman for fraud for doing this, but maybe not? The courts don't seem to care, as long as a man pays..any man would do. Who cares who the father is...seems to be the courts viewpoint.

 

[MatureDJ]

I was told about a guy in the military who got stuck paying child support for a child that was not his. He was away overseas, and some girl who was just a casual friend of his...put his name as the father on the certificate. Of course, he never knew about it being overseas.

He comes home, and gets smacked with child support. He never even had sex with this woman. Apparently, you have a limited time to contest the certificate. If you don't, you are screwed. You are guilty until proven innocent.

I would assume you could sue the woman for fraud for doing this, but maybe not? The courts don't seem to care, as long as a man pays..any man would do. Who cares who the father is...seems to be the courts viewpoint.

There is no way this could be true. If it were, women could just pick some dude out of the phone book, and if that dude didn't find out, he'd be screwed. No, due process would entitle him to a hearing. He can say that while he was away, he did not hear of any of this, and demand a DNA test.

 

[englishman]

Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction MatureDJ

http://www.shrink4men.com/2011/06/0...collects-almost-200000-in-back-child-support/