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Question for bitcoin experts: if bitcoin is the new gold shouldn’t it go up when gold goes up? Gold went up today over 1% but bitcoin down in the gutter.
Gold is a very rare Earth material, all the Gold in the entire world including what we haven't found would only fill one Olympic swimming pool. Gold is used in so many electronics. It is an extremely important thing.

Bitcoin was created to be a decentralised currency, free from any government.

Two entirely different things
 

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Question for bitcoin experts: if bitcoin is the new gold shouldn’t it go up when gold goes up? Gold went up today over 1% but bitcoin down in the gutter.
Gold has lost 8% of it's value while Bitcoin has gained 500,000+% over the past decade.

And no, it doesn't always work like that. BTC currently in a bullish flag consolidation, but is nearing a breakout. Won't be long now.
 

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Gold has lost 8% of it's value while Bitcoin has gained 500,000+% over the past decade.

And no, it doesn't always work like that. BTC currently in a bullish flag consolidation, but is nearing a breakout. Won't be long now.
I hope you’re right. Got money in both. We’ll see which will outperform over the long term. Even penny stocks can outperform in the short term
 

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I hope you’re right. Got money in both. We’ll see which will outperform over the long term. Even penny stocks can outperform in the short term
Last time I checked a decade isn't short term...and BTC will likely be closer to a million in 5 years than $100K.

Eyeing a breakout before the end of the day today.
 

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Last time I checked a decade isn't short term...and BTC will likely be closer to a million in 5 years than $100K.

Eyeing a breakout before the end of the day today.
A decade is very short term in the grand scheme of things. But yes let’s see what happens
 

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Fads come and go in the markets like anything else. The real question is the long term staying power and it's ability to hold up against federal reserves in all countries that hold the purse strings with iron fists.

To me bitcoin is a fantastic speculation that can yield tons of cash, but it's legitimate long term viability is very much in question still.

For those new to the game of speculation and finance, you can read stories from all decades about hot trending markets that boom and bust. Many decades and generations have had their own +100% returns for individuals. In these times it makes people think they are investing gods. Until markets change and then they realize there is more to the story than riding trends and hot tips. Only a few people make it out of these cycles and stay in the game long term.

As a professional with a business, I just want to caution people to treat this seriously. If you aren't treating this like a business then you should work towards some education. A few million in any market is great until it get's wiped out and you don't know why. In addition there are many professionals that are getting and are in the BTC markets. These are the people that will be the first to get out when rainy days come and they will.

This is similar to the S&P, where the average person doesn't understand business cycles and the feds part in it. The market dips, professionals get out and are ready to buy back at the bottom, while many and most were subject to highly leveraged losses.

Just want everyone to be financially safe is all. Not being anti BTC at all. I have been around long enough to know how markets work and you see the same trends over the years.
 

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Fads come and go in the markets like anything else. The real question is the long term staying power and it's ability to hold up against federal reserves in all countries that hold the purse strings with iron fists.

To me bitcoin is a fantastic speculation that can yield tons of cash, but it's legitimate long term viability is very much in question still.

For those new to the game of speculation and finance, you can read stories from all decades about hot trending markets that boom and bust. Many decades and generations have had their own +100% returns for individuals. In these times it makes people think they are investing gods. Until markets change and then they realize there is more to the story than riding trends and hot tips. Only a few people make it out of these cycles and stay in the game long term.

As a professional with a business, I just want to caution people to treat this seriously. If you aren't treating this like a business then you should work towards some education. A few million in any market is great until it get's wiped out and you don't know why. In addition there are many professionals that are getting and are in the BTC markets. These are the people that will be the first to get out when rainy days come and they will.

This is similar to the S&P, where the average person doesn't understand business cycles and the feds part in it. The market dips, professionals get out and are ready to buy back at the bottom, while many and most were subject to highly leveraged losses.

Just want everyone to be financially safe is all. Not being anti BTC at all. I have been around long enough to know how markets work and you see the same trends over the years.
A lot of great insights in this post and hope all relatively new entrants who came into this market will take note. We have a difference of opinion on Bitcoins long term viability risk at this point but I certainly think it very much applies to the majority of other projects. We are most likely entering the final leg of this cycles uptrend, it is going to be incredibly euphoric and most of you will make massive returns. As someone who has been doing this for a while and know many people who have large positions, I will be looking to take considerable percentages of my portfolio off the table over the next few months. The majority of long term holders who have been through these cycles are too. Any new money coming in now should proceed with caution. It doesn't mean you can't participate but just take a more measured approach. If you have made a lot of money, consider taking some off table over the next few moths. You will never be able to time tops and bottoms so my preferred method is to cost average in and out of positions. Deeply learn about what you are investing in so you can have true conviction in what you are holding though the volatility. Understand if we do get a blow off the top end to this cycle your positions could be underwater for a decent amount of time. At some point BTC will have a 50-85% extended correction and many of these other projects will lose 90%+, even the more solid ones. Many will never recover. Most have to learn these lessons the hard way at some point in life, myself included. Just make sure the damage isn't too much that you can't recover.

 

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I did a virtual investment with Bitcoin to simulate what kind of gains i would of made, I'm regretting not investing.

Im not sure if i should invest now or wait until a drop happens
 

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I did a virtual investment with Bitcoin to simulate what kind of gains i would of made, I'm regretting not investing.

Im not sure if i should invest now or wait until a drop happens
Not sure how many more dips you are going to get...one of these times it's going to run fast and hard and melt faces on the way up.
 

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Not sure how many more dips you are going to get...one of these times it's going to run fast and hard and melt faces on the way up.
I definitely won't be panic selling, I know that's a rookie mistake a lot of guys make.
 

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Just bought a crapload more $DOT bringing my total position to 1200.

Using 1000 for two parachain auction crowdfunding plays with $ACA and $GLMR and keeping the other 200 to sell off at the top of the bull run.
 

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Gold has lost 8% of it's value while Bitcoin has gained 500,000+% over the past decade.

And no, it doesn't always work like that. BTC currently in a bullish flag consolidation, but is nearing a breakout. Won't be long now.
It's painful. I still prefer a gold backed currency.

I think the play for btc is to acquire on the dip. Hopefully you fellas acquired when aalon crashed it or better yet, bought before Corona Chan.
 

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It's painful. I still prefer a gold backed currency.

I think the play for btc is to acquire on the dip. Hopefully you fellas acquired when aalon crashed it or better yet, bought before Corona Chan.
I own a lot of physical gold but there is real risk of bitcoin demonetizing it. The main issue with a gold backed currency is it is stored at a centralized source, usually central banks. Because this there is a lot of risk with manipulation and other issues. Humans always find a way to screw things up
 

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@BackInTheGame78, what are your thoughts on Dogezilla?
I don't really get too much involved with those types of projects(meme coins). Clearly some of them are very viable and can make a lot of money, I actually had some $DOGE and $SHIB for a while and made some profits off of those, but in general I tend to prefer tokens with viable use cases behind them.

I would check out $CERE...interesting project and just got listed on Kucoin yesterday. Dipping now but I like the long-term potential. Can be had for under .17 currently, I bought quite a bit on the dip to .14

For an established token that I believe is severely undervalued right now, check out $ATOM. For what it does, this is dirt cheap right now.
 
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