Critique this spot: beach babe

FinallyAlpha

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I described this spot before in another thread but I want to open it up here for ideas. (It's one that will come up again.)

  • I was hanging out alone on a beach; swimming, reading, eating snacks from my cooler etc.
  • HB8 sets up about 15 feet away, lies face down, smoking, headphones on, scrolling phone. Thong bikini, perfect ass, blonde hair, tanned skin.
  • I approach ~30 minutes later. Invite her to play a game of paddleball. She enthusiastically agrees.
  • We play, my banter is good. But there's a language barrier. She speaks Spanish. Mine is garbage.
  • We finish the game and we stand talking for maybe 20 minutes. But it's very labored due to the language barrier.
  • We're talking mostly about her country and city. I ask her does she play sports and ask her would she like to join me for a game of beach volleyball that should be starting up at a different, nearby beach. She agrees.
  • We cycle there together.
  • She wants to check out a quieter beach (no volleyball). We lie there, read from her esoteric book in Spanish. Actually fun activity for me.
  • Then I try to escalate. I think this is one of my first fvck-ups. I start asking about her leg tattoo, I touch it, stroke it a bit, then we kiss a bit, read more. After about an hour, she says she has to go. We had been together for a few hours at that stage and prime beach time was over.
She gives me her number. I message maybe the next day to set up a weekend date. Crickets.

I think it was my evident thirst that may have turned her off. I'm a fvcking horn dog in these spots. And that's something I'm going to have to get past if I want to improve my p1ss poor hit rate in these spots.

Secondly, I never DHV by calling time on it. She was the one who called it when evening was approaching. That lowers my value, right? That I don't have anything better to do etc. That's another area to improve that comes up repeatedly; I can be a bit needy in these spots. Need to learn to cut it and retain mystery and value.

What do you guys notice here? Optimal ways to play it throughout?
 

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I don't think you did anything wrong. Maybe her boyfriend was mad at her and she needed some male validation. Who knows.

Try her again and if she doesn't respond delete the number.
 

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Remember the 3 second rule. Waiting 30 minutes to approach is not good.

The language barrier was also problematic.

You're not supposed to text next day. That's a bit thirsty.

That likely was a situation where you were either going to close for a one night stand or get nothing. You got nothing.
 

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Why didn't you suggest going for a drink or back to your place to continue? She seemed up for it, we've all been there, if you don't capitalise in the moment sometimes you lose them for whatever reason.
 

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Sounds fine. You gave her an ego boost and your attention. She probably felt a little nervous when you tried to escalate and she had an exit strategy. Could have left the beach and taken it somewhere else but she wasn’t interested. Women do this type of sh!t even when they have partners. One happily told me once that she was playing darts and flirting with a “hot guy“ at a bar. I asked, ”where was your boyfriend?” “Oh, he was there too.” Completely disrespectful if you ask me but she was looking for an ego boost and she found a sucker to get free attention.

Considering this was a cold approach, the exchange went pretty far. Hit her up again and see what happens.
 

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As soon as I saw her smoking would have been an instant no for me. Disgusting.
 

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I think in this case you either had to go for the lay or make a smooth exit after getting her digits. You stayed there too long without going for the lay.
 

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It's cool bro she gave you a chance and you blew it.. not a big deal.. idk how or why you went from touching and kissing to reading again or laying around.. She's not your FWB yet bro.. you can't just bull.sht around.. She's giving you an opportunity.

With women you never stir the pot unless you're goin to capitalize-- because what ends up happening then is, she'll quickly say goodbye to you and hit up some guy who will finish the job. (This isn't harsh, its just reality. if you turn a girls gears, shes going to be turned on, but if she feels its awkward and you're not escalating to sex, she'll quickly get outta there and call someone who will satisfy her needs)

Next time, if you are feeling anxious or don't know what to do next.. Rememebr this: The little bridge from making out to boning = fingering. Chicks love being fingered while you make out with them. Alot of girls love getting fingered in general because you can do things with your fingers you can't do with your d.ick. - o fc after fingering, that's when you stick it in and do your thing.
 

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Interesting thought then...

...When we're gaining traction, we should just go full scorched earth. Unashamedly let our intentions be known (in a smooth way, of course).

My thing was always masking that drive for sex, which is beta, right?

Could be a game changer for me. I'm often too polite. Too nice guy vibes. Hang around too long for chats.

Women prefer it when a man is open about his intentions. So we just lean in and live with the consequences.

So we should convey sexual energy when possible, not conceal it.

Am I correct?
 

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Interesting thought then...

...When we're gaining traction, we should just go full scorched earth. Unashamedly let our intentions be known (in a smooth way, of course).

My thing was always masking that drive for sex, which is beta, right?

Could be a game changer for me. I'm often too polite. Too nice guy vibes. Hang around too long for chats.

Women prefer it when a man is open about his intentions. So we just lean in and live with the consequences.

So we should convey sexual energy when possible, not conceal it.

Am I correct?
You havent´met our bro @We_ArE_VeNOM and the other Mode One guys? If you hang around here you will meet them eventually wether you like it or not.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Probably should've gone a step further once your tongue was in her mouth and lead to the next spot. Or you should've gone about your day after the number. All in all it doesn't sound too bad and you might've been feeling her more than she felt you. That and there was a language barrier.

She could have been seeking attention and a bit of validation, all in all if you had fun with her I wouldn't dwell on it. As @LTG71 said she might've felt a bit uncomfortable and wanted to eject. That and she might've changed her mind about you after departing, don't get in your head about it.
 
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