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Quiksilver

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Originally posted by WBA
both are equally effective but which you do depends on a lot of factors, whether you're trying to gain weight, how easily you gain weight, your current size etc..
Hmm...Wanna help me out?

My situation: Trying to gain weight, not more than 20 - 25 lbs though. I gain weight pretty easily, but not the good kind. I gain fat weight pretty easily, so eating right is a mission, and for my age I have a fairly slow metabolism in light of the amount of exercise I do. Current size is...wait, size of what? ;)
I'm 161lbs as of 5 minutes ago. I'm 5'10.5 as of september. I'm a mesomorph, yet have a slow metabolism. Everything I do has a noticable effect on my body, for good or bad. I squat 400lbs(not including bar), deadlift 240, bench 135(i know im slacking on the bench).

What type of cardio should I be doing for best bf%-burning results? I'd estimate my bf% to be 14 or so. That is what I mean when I said I gain fat weight easily. I eat right, im a high-level tennis player and seasonal rugby player so I don't quite get how I still have a bit of a belly, but there it is. I need my own post for this :)
 

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Quiksilver said:
Hmm...Wanna help me out?

My situation: Trying to gain weight, not more than 20 - 25 lbs though. I gain weight pretty easily, but not the good kind. I gain fat weight pretty easily, so eating right is a mission, and for my age I have a fairly slow metabolism in light of the amount of exercise I do. Current size is...wait, size of what? ;)
I'm 161lbs as of 5 minutes ago. I'm 5'10.5 as of september. I'm a mesomorph, yet have a slow metabolism. Everything I do has a noticable effect on my body, for good or bad. I squat 400lbs(not including bar), deadlift 240, bench 135(i know im slacking on the bench).

What type of cardio should I be doing for best bf%-burning results? I'd estimate my bf% to be 14 or so. That is what I mean when I said I gain fat weight easily. I eat right, im a high-level tennis player and seasonal rugby player so I don't quite get how I still have a bit of a belly, but there it is. I need my own post for this :)
Are you fat, or do you have a belly? There's a difference. Having a belly could be down to a poor diet (milk, alcohol, poor digestion). 160lbs at 5'10" does not suggest a slow metabolism, just average. In any case for fat burning while gaining weight as you want, I'd recommend empty stomach cardio in the a.m. with some protein beforehand, 4-5 times a week for now for 30-40 mins each time. Try this and see how it goes.

Your squat numbers don't correspond with your deadlift, they should be way closer .. you sure you're going ass to grass?
 

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Originally posted by WBA
Are you fat, or do you have a belly? There's a difference. Having a belly could be down to a poor diet (milk, alcohol, poor digestion). 160lbs at 5'10" does not suggest a slow metabolism, just average. In any case for fat burning while gaining weight as you want, I'd recommend empty stomach cardio in the a.m. with some protein beforehand, 4-5 times a week for now for 30-40 mins each time. Try this and see how it goes.

Your squat numbers don't correspond with your deadlift, they should be way closer .. you sure you're going ass to grass?
I'm glad you brought that up :) No i'm not fat at all, my arms are pretty toned and my legs are pretty ripped. yet I do have a belly. I do drink on weekends, probably more than I should, ill cut it down to afew beers though, may as well work on my sober game:)... I do drink milk, though only with whey shakes, I try to only drink skim and have done it with water on occasion but it's not exactly pleasant with water. you're right that 160 at 5'10 is average, but i dont really like to judge by the scale. I use the mirror, and can easily tell i have some fat to lose in the midsection(belly, chest).

Right now my cardio is 10minutes of jogging at 12:30(phys.ed.) and I do my own cardio at around 8pm, that one leaves me completely spent, even puked afew times afterwards. It's 1.75mile but I'm pushing myself to the max each time going for lower time.

I'll try the morning cardio. It'll be a mission to wake up 45 minutes earlier every morning but hey, thats the fun part.....right? :)

EDIT: about the squat/deadlift thing, its because i've essentially been training my quads for 6 years now. I used to cycle competitively, so my quads already had alot of mass before i started squatting. I've been working alot on proper form so I know I'm doing it right..ill think about posting a video link for you to critique.

thanks
 

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Hey Quik, drop that 1.75 mile run and do the morning cardio like Alex said. Running like that will make gaining muscle really tough. I also noticed you said your a high level tennis player and seasonal rugby player. If your looking to add 20-25lbs you'll have to revaluate the tennis, and look to add weight in the off season of rugby.
 

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Squat seems a little high for the DL and bench numbers.
 

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Quiksilver said:
I'm glad you brought that up :) No i'm not fat at all, my arms are pretty toned and my legs are pretty ripped. yet I do have a belly. I do drink on weekends, probably more than I should, ill cut it down to afew beers though, may as well work on my sober game:)... I do drink milk, though only with whey shakes, I try to only drink skim and have done it with water on occasion but it's not exactly pleasant with water.
:) Drop the milk and beer for a month and I GUARANTEE you will magically 'lose fat' .. ;) What will happen is the gut distention and bloating associated with both these products will go away. If you have lean arms and legs then you don't have a 'fat' belly, just an extended one. It's like when you're eating to grow, your arms are as vascular as heck because of the carbs in you but your stomach looks pregnant because of the food intake.
 
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