Critique my POF 2nd Edition

incognito42

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\O/ said:
I really don't understand why you guys keep using these sites. Especially when the main goal guys have here (myself included) is to be 100% confident and happy with ourselves.

It is no secret that, for most guys, online dating sites are confidence killers numero uno.

Most girls will ignore your messages. Even ugly whences and warpigs will reject you. The competion is insane and the guys are desperate. Guys will accept to drop their standards by several points, and the average and ugly girls gets to enjoy the massive attention from guys several points above them. This manifests itself in other social areas. The average and ugly girls think that they can get top 10% guys, but in reality they only get used for sex and end up complaining about how bad guys are. They still think they deserve that type of guy, because they get massive attention from them online.

I've used social networking/dating sites in the past and have had moderate success. However, i find it to be too much of a numbers game. If you live in a huge city with millions of inhabitants, it's different, but if you live in a smaller city you will plough through the entire dating pool in a few weeks. Girls online can also be found in bars, nightclubs etc. It's not cool to approach a girl who has already rejected you online is it? Do you feel like James Bond when that happens? I don't think so.

Stay away from sites like this. Bad for confidence. Bad for reputation. Bad for mentality. Bad for quality.
I think its a confidence killer because most guys are lame and boring on there, like you said. On top of that they don't accept POF for being a trash heap and get their emotions and ego involved. If you have a typical boring profile and just post hey, and follow it up with chit chat and blah blah garbage til you both fall asleep, you will prolly have no success and lose confidence.

I posted this in a thread in the tips forum a couple days ago...


For guys struggling with anxiety, body language, tempo, articulation, and tonality of voice online skeez hunting may be the best thing for them. It was for me. I was getting no play in the field, because I didnt have the confidence to express myself how I wanted to. I wasnt completely miserable with girls, I got ***** and action here and there but wasnt capitalizing on my potential. After a few months of destroying POF Im a different person now

Online dating is WAY easier if you have the tools



.....that's just my experience, and everyone is different. But all of the things I listed from anxiety, body language, tempo, articulation, and tonality of voice I struggled somewhat with each of those, whereas now due to POF I'm a lot more comfortable IRL with ZERO fear of rejection or embarrassment, and am an all around better person.

POF was the most practical advice Ive got here ever. Youre completely safe behind your computer screen from REAL LIFE rejection. You get to practice and see which things are effective and which arent when talking with chicks. You get a little more used to rejection. You realize how most chicks have NO confidence and low standards for themselves. You HAVE TO take it all with a grain of salt because you are online and the chicks are clearly a bit off, but I still was able to keep things in perspective while still applying a lot of what I learned in real life game.

Some clearly arent going to have the same experiences or problems as me, but I strongly believe from my personal experience that POF can be exactly what some guys here need
 
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incognito42 said:
Some clearly arent going to have the same experiences or problems as me, but I strongly believe from my personal experience that POF can be exactly what some guys here need
Not if you are unattractive.

I agree with parts of \o/ and you, it's interesting since both arguments are on opposite spectrum. Online dating, I have used Naughty Ninja's method with minor tweaks, but it is PROVEN to work. You will get opportunities with women in online dating that otherwise would not be non-existent. HOWEVER, this is just a comfort zone that may prevent you from approach women in real life...quite subtle. The comfort of approaching through the internet does not compare to reality. It is a buffer.

Sure you can get laid from online dating, but what REALLY made that transition from these low quality women? Just merely your looks and body shape, plain and simple. Absolutely no inner game to get their number and meet up. It's a buffer, the easy way out.
 

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Do whatever NN says...this sh!t is crazy...30+ number pulls in under 3 weeks(including 4 this morning I just started talking with), 3 snl on first dates, girls texting/emailing wondering why i haven't gotten in touch with them...all 7+'s...

Personally, I have seen my success go up a lot with one or two extra msgs before going for the number, or even suggesting we meet up first, then getting the number after she agrees is a mere formality...that's just me, u can still get numbers following his method exactly, some are a little Leary and it seems to make them a little more comfortable...

I literally have so many numbers I don't even have time to talk to these women...anyone suffering oneitis or looking to fvck, I highly recommend it. These chicks are thirsty.
 

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I would get rid of the the first paragraph man. Its just not really a great opener since you already have a dead girl and some crazy fantasy scenario set up.
 

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I'm average looking and Pof helped me in huge ways with my inner gam that nothing else on this site did. Don't get me wrong there's tons of good advice here, but not all guys here can just get out in the field and implement it. Pof is a lot safer, and helped me work out the kinks I was dealing with. Now I'm better IRL game for it, a different person all around


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Not if you are unattractive.

I agree with parts of \o/ and you, it's interesting since both arguments are on opposite spectrum. Online dating, I have used Naughty Ninja's method with minor tweaks, but it is PROVEN to work. You will get opportunities with women in online dating that otherwise would not be non-existent. HOWEVER, this is just a comfort zone that may prevent you from approach women in real life...quite subtle. The comfort of approaching through the internet does not compare to reality. It is a buffer.

Sure you can get laid from online dating, but what REALLY made that transition from these low quality women? Just merely your looks and body shape, plain and simple. Absolutely no inner game to get their number and meet up. It's a buffer, the easy way out.
 

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Ok wtf?!?

Why do I keep getting the all you looks so gay comments? Seriously? I have been bullied in my childhood that I was gay an all? Really? What the hell guys?

I find myself a 100% comfortable with my sexuality. Definitely not a homo.

Yes I know I'm and artist and I'm into the goth scene a little. Yes I also enjoy fashion and looking sharp. Is there's something wrong with that? Really?

I really cant change who I am, I can always improve but why should I change my ways to care what other people label me? I have worked( and still working) very hard to archive a great physique and this is what people perceive of me just based on first impression in looks?

Is this like something the media has implemented in society's head like with girls? Oh he's stylish and fit, so he must be a gay tard? I have seen the most robust and masculine guys out there and they turned out to be the most homos.

I'm already taking measurements to improve. Yes I have bought new clothing with lighter colors such as polos and such. I'm also in the process of growing out a beard.

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/381/saniker2.jpg

It makes me look more mature, masculine and it totally complements my face and hairstyle. Lol I already tested it on photoshop and people love the results. I look like Tony Stark from Iron Man.

Please explain to me in detail because I truly don't enjoy getting labels of something I'm not nor I want to be.
 

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Oh also what's up with the expression of my pics?

If I'm serious: I look like hostile serial killer and nobody wants to approach me.
If I'm neutral: I look too plain, boring and without personality and thus blend with the rest of the crowd (betas)
If I'm smiling: I look too happy and gay? Some girls ask me why I'm always smiling (not in a creepy way). I usually reply "because I'm happy".

I really don't get it, believe me. Please to help me understand because this ghost has been hunting me all my life and I really want to get it over with.
 

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Leopold said:
Oh also what's up with the expression of my pics?

If I'm serious: I look like hostile serial killer and nobody wants to approach me.
If I'm neutral: I look too plain, boring and without personality and thus blend with the rest of the crowd (betas)
If I'm smiling: I look too happy and gay? Some girls ask me why I'm always smiling (not in a creepy way). I usually reply "because I'm happy".

I really don't get it, believe me. Please to help me understand because this ghost has been hunting me all my life and I really want to get it over with.

I always got the same thing. Just try to have good energy and think positive but don't try to smile for the sake of smiling. If you can't put on a fake smile that looks genuine you'll just look odd

I disagre with NN a little bit. Keep your style but have some self awareness as well. Critique yourself. Ask yourself if you'd get more pvssy with a better physique, better haircut, better tan, etc. Make changes to your clothes or style in small ways but u wouldn't overhaul who you are. There will be some girls who like your style.
 

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lol dont feel bad dude they deemed me as a creeper in my last post just roll with it that is what u ask for is a critique
 
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Attention Getter profile pics help a lot. Naughty Ninja's method of spamming work, just change the wording into your own.

I'll be getting out of my 70k population town and to a 3M+ city in a month. I'm more excited about online dating than the higher paying job!
 
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