Creepy. A new unnatractive male definition?

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Defining an unnatractive guy as creepy based on if he shows interest but doesnt do anything wrong – it’s just unkind. It’s sort of nasty. That’s my take on that.
On the other hand, if a guy is really full on, if he acts or speaks inappropriately to a woman to the point where she feels uncomfortable or scared, then calling him creepy is more justifiable.

So creepy is a new male shaming technique, not a way to select the good from the "bad", but more of a way to shun, hummiliate men that are not so good looking or dont have a full wallet of money. It even goes to the extreme of the guy being creepy just for the fact he exists. He may not approach or talk to a woman but he is considered creepy nonetheless. Why? Because it's trendy for females to call ugly/unnatractive males creepy nowadays.

Does being called / branded as creepy propel men towards self-improvement and progress?

IMHO i think it makes the guy feel worse and leads more often to depression and sometimes suicide than it leads to self development. How does it help an awkward guy with low self esteem when he’s compared to a rapist or a child molester or a stalker just for not having confidence in talking to women or being unattractive or even both?

If he already has a sense that every woman sees him and treats him that way, as a low value man (as disgusting and categorically unworthy of validation), it just drives that insecurity even deeper.

If you’re unattractive, you’re a “creep”, it’s “Harassment” or you're " stalking me"
If you’re attractive, you’re just “flirting”!

I'm Portuguese and this happens everywhere, not just in the US.
 

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I understand natural selection, i understand rejection, i understand physical atraction or absence of it, but i dont understand the blatant use of the word creepy to punish those women reject, honestly i prefer a: "i'm sorry but i'm not interested", but only if the guy approaches, if he doesn't why even use male shame techniques?
The problem is not women preferring attractive, confident, and/or successful men. It’s the note of false superiority and moral judgment implied in deciding that unattractive men are “creepy” merely because they dare to try.


so what's this new "creep" women talk about now? is it an ugly guy, is it a beta male? is it a guy who's also ugly and with low social status?

So If you’re not a good looking guy or an alpha male when it comes to game, you had best not talk to women?

This is what women are trying to say after all.
 
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Part of it is women being bitches, but part of it is true too.

How would you like it if some weird, awkward fat heffer was trying to get into you, you'd be like eugh...

Same goes for low self esteem, no game, poor appearance guys sniffing around hb's
 

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Part of it is women being *****es, but part of it is true too.

How would you like it if some weird, awkward fat heffer was trying to get into you, you'd be like eugh...

Same goes for low self esteem, no game, poor appearance guys sniffing around hb's
as i said how does being labeled as that helps a shy guy, or a low self esteem no confidence guy? guess what it doesnt. it does in fact the opposite.

And No! women have no right to use these male shaming names. If they want to reject,do it respectfully, just ignore us and move on, that's how a real women acts.

Inferno do you brand or label negatively a woman that shows interest in you and whom you reject because you dont feel attracted to her? Do you blatantly tell her this is why you are rejecting her? And if so, is there a need to hummiliate her?
 
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as i said how does being labeled as that helps a shy guy, or a low self esteem no confidence guy? guess what it doesnt. it does in fact the opposite.

And No! women have no right to use these male shaming names. If they want to reject,do it respectfully, just ignore us and move on, that's how a real women acts.

Inferno do you brand or label negatively a woman that shows interest in you and whom you reject because you dont feel attracted to her? Do you blatantly tell her this is why you are rejecting her? And if so, is there a need to hummiliate her?
No because I've developed maturity, many have not, male and female
 

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as i said how does being labeled as that helps a shy guy, or a low self esteem no confidence guy? guess what it doesnt. it does in fact the opposite.

And No! women have no right to use these male shaming names. If they want to reject,do it respectfully, just ignore us and move on, that's how a real women acts.
If you won't help yourself, why should anyone else?
 

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how does all of this helps a guy who has limited confidence? It doesnt. You are being BRANDED!!!!

It's not whining, i'm just making a point.When a woman says that to a guy it's almost related to how you look (hot vs ugly) or how much money you make/have (rich vs poor).
 

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Branded? Maybe as a wuss, by the forum.

Creepy is just a word. Girls can even use it playfully toward guys they are attracted to. I dated a girl for years who told me I reminded her of Christian Grey from 50 Shades of Grey, and she used that word sometimes.

It's not as bad as "nice" or "friend".

Suicidal??
 

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Grow some skin & stop being a pansy a** p*ssy Nancy. Zero fvks given what ever comes out of there mouth!

Read that 20x times, your panties are all in bunch over a fvking word. GTFO, I've had plenty of GF say this to me. Guess what I didn't care! And @ the end of the day I still fvcked em. You sound like a chick crying if I guy called her a c*nt!
 

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Creepy does not mean ugly and creepy. Creepy is the young guy in American Beauty who is following the girl around with the camera. Also, unless several people use a certain term it defines the speaker more than the person they are speaking to.

That said, we all have good days and bad days. I recently took two photos of myself, two weeks apart, and looking at them side by side I can't believe they are both me. In one I look pale and chubby with a double chin and dark circles, and the other (after a 3 day vacation in the sun) I am radiant, tanned and sparkling with a chiseled jaw. It's a mistake to assume we always look our best or our worst.
 

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Wait, so you're a bimbo at the bar, but you're not easily impressed?

Why would I care about impressing some 29 year old black male rapper? As long as the women I meet are impressed, that's what matters. And don't worry. I won't take girls your age. They are too old for me.
 

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Sorry OP I just don't get what you're trying to achieve here with all this venting. This is a self Improvement site.

You've received more than enough practical advice.

Why don't you post a journal thread here for dating and another 1 in health and fitness for physical improvement and get on with it.
 
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