Creating Attraction In A Female Friend Over Time

Young Stallion

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I have been on this board for a little bit now and I have noticed an overwhelming number of you asking the question "How do I turn my female friend into something more" or some variation of this. Often times it is disguised as someone posting about a girl they are hanging out with and if there is a chance for them.

In my life I have been VERY good at turning girls who are my friend into something more...and at the very least bedding girls that are my friends....and staying just friends with them after.

For the advice today I shall tell one of my stories and then I will also say what the lessons learned are. It is a long story but it is important to read it all and to read the lessons learned to get the most out of it.

"Young Stallion And The Girl Who Could Not Say No.....Eventually"

Lets start in the year 2005
I was 23 years old and in my final year of University. Often I would walk up to random girls to start conversations with and learning all about what works and what doesnt work.

One of these random girls was an 18 year old girl in her first year of University. I just randomly sat down with her one day and started talking to her about classes, I told her in that FIRST conversation that I was much to old for her but I would be all over her if I was her age. She laughed and thanked me for the compliment. I seem to also recall taking out my cell phone and saying to her that I have lots of parties and that her number should be in my cell phone so I could call her and show her a good time.

I do specifically recall her saying at that instant that that would be great and that her and her boyfriend would enjoy going to party for old people.

I smiled after the conversation and went away. I never did invite her and her boyfriend to any party.

I saw her around the hall from time to time and casually said hi...she asked me on more than one occaision if I was having any parties, I just would say nah not right now.

During final exam week I saw her in the library and asked if she wanted to go study on the 3rd floor, where its nice and quiet. She agree that the 3rd floor wold be nice and we started studying together. At one point she stood up and went towards a wall with her book, I went over to her and looked at her in the eyes and tried to kiss her.

Of course she moved away and said "young stallion" I have a boyfriend. So I said ah yes of course, she then hugged me and said that she thought we should stop studying and go on our way....I said that would be cool and wished her luck on her exam....by the way the exams were both on that day.

Interestingly after both of our exams were over she texted me and asked me out for dinner! I said sure and I took her out to a resteraunt, we ate and talked about her and her dreams and the whole 9 yards. Then I dropped her off at her apartment as she did not drive.

I didnt see her for a few months and I started dating a different girl. She texted me a few times and asked what I was up to and I would always tell her that I was out with my pretty lady.

At one point I started calling her a nickname that stuck and when we did hang out (both of us in relationships) I would call her by her nickname and treat her like a little kid sister.

At one point she wanted to start talking about her relationships, I told her that she has plenty of girlfriends for that and it we could talk about much more interesting things than our relationships.

After about 3 years of casually hanging out (2008) she had a different boyfriend and I had a string of short to more than short relationships.

One day I took her out downtown and we were walking at night and I took her hand as we crossed the street and I kept holding her hand the entire time we were walking. She then told me that if she wasnt with her boyfriend that she would be with me. I just smiled at her and put my hand on her waiste and all the way to her butt. She told me I was bad.

A year later (2008), she was with a different guy and I was single. I took her to a concert of a very high profile musician. We took a cab downtown, I wined and dined her, then we went to the concert. After the concert we saw a limo in the parking lot and we actually took it and had the driver drive us to a club.

We started dancing with each other and she said we move really well together. Then I kissed her and we made out on the dance floor.

After we both got home she texted me and told me she couldnt see me anymore because of what she did and how she felt when he was around me. I texted her back that it was cool and that she could do whatever she felt like doing whether it meant jumping my bones or never seeing me again.

I didnt see her for a few months until I texted her one day and told her that I missed my (insert name), she texted me back and said that she thought about me alot. The year was now 2009.

So we went out on a date, we were both single at the time. After the date, I said that she should check out my new condo. She agreed and we went into my condo.

We walked in and I put in a cd of exotic dance music and told her that we should dance. We started to dance and after a while I kissed her, pushed her against a wall and we ended up going at it pretty hard. She told me after...her true words "no one has ever ravaged me like that before".

We never ended up dating but we met up at least 4 times a month over the next year and each time we were having a great great time.

It ended because she moved away to get her masters degree and I was already well into my career.

So yes one can turn a friend into more.

Here are the lessons to be learned
-Notice how I dated other women and never put my eggs in one basket (her) yes we were friends but she knew I was with other girls and although I found her very attractive, I was indifferent to us hooking up.

-I never got awkard or serious or pressured her into going out with me and wasnt phased that she had other boyfriends.

-Although she dated other guys, I never put myself into the position of listening to her boyfriend problems or other drama. In fact I told her that we wouldnt go there.

-I kept myself in shape and attractive and although we were friends I was never the chickwitha**** friend who she could talk to about her problems.

-She was interested in me to some extent, it wouldnt have worked if she wasnt.

Conclusion
When a girl you are interested in sees you as a friend or the situation causes you both to be friends, it is important not to lose your cool, not to focus your attention on her at all and to just keep things light over a period of time.

One must come accross as a dominant man who just happens to not be dating the girl and be seen as a dominant man in her eyes. This is ALOT different than the girl who has a guyfriend who likes her but is submissive. I was always an animal in the relationship and she had to remind me of my boundaries.

I hope this helps you guys in your perils of being LJBF by girls.

-YS
 

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Meh, I talk with my female friends about their problems all the time. Just because I'm a dude doesn't mean I'm a sh!tty friend. I usually end up banging them anyway. If anything being a friend helps since I am a bit anxious socially with people until I develop friendly rapport. But once I'm comfortable and witty and caring eventually they will ask why we never got together. Then we get together.

Your story could've gone alot quicker with alcohol!
 

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FairShake said:
Meh, I talk with my female friends about their problems all the time. Just because I'm a dude doesn't mean I'm a sh!tty friend. I usually end up banging them anyway. If anything being a friend helps since I am a bit anxious socially with people until I develop friendly rapport. But once I'm comfortable and witty and caring eventually they will ask why we never got together. Then we get together.

Your story could've gone alot quicker with alcohol!
Then perhaps you should have had some.
 

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Nah I mean female friends, girls with boyfriends, girls who don't feel that spark, etc go down alot better with alcohol.
 

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FairShake said:
Nah I mean female friends, girls with boyfriends, girls who don't feel that spark, etc go down alot better with alcohol.
Damn and I was going to crack open a beer from the fridgeand drink to long posts with yah.
 

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A woman will think of a man as a friend or lover but not both.

Also, when posts are as long as the OP it's a warning sign.
 

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I'll admit that I've slept with most of my closer female friends when we get to that "hey, so we're alone and have nothing else to talk about" moment.

But...

1) I've never tried to pursue those hookups.

2) When they happen, I've never tried to cling to them or turn it into a regular thing.

3) If my friend asks about it later, I just pat her on the back and tell her it ain't no thing, and we both move on with life as usual.

So in my experience, yes it's doable, and most of my female friends would probably heavily consider something like marrying me (strictly for reasons of security, and how awesome I am).

But to say that the friendship will somehow morph into primal chemical attraction over time? Bah! I laugh at the thought.

If the ingredients for attraction were there, it never would have turned straight into (long term) friendship.
 

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This happens all the time, but the chances are well small. It might as well have been a long as$ story about how some guy has been orbiting the woman for 4 years to no luck. I would rather go the short route with alcohol and if there is a tiny bit of attraction in there, you will know.... hopefully. P.S. to be honest I find it weird that some men have 'close' female friends.
 

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Settling for a female friend to eventually like you is a form of desperation.

Not that I haven't done it.

When you find a woman who (by virtue of her attraction) falls in love with you, and one who you fall for, it's so much better than the luke-warm, iffy-maybe, kinda-sorta, half-assed relationships that we fall into when we suffer from a gross lack of options.

Remember: no woman will fall for you unless her friends say things like "he's hot", "he's sexy", etc.
 

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You people have absolutely missed the point of my post.

This was not a girl I was pinning over for a long time, she was just a girl who was around for a long time that I turned into more...hell I had 2 or 3 girls on the go while I was seeing her!

I simply wanted to tell you guys through the lessons learned at the end of the story as to how this can be done. I noticed alot of people posting about this and wanted to offer my experience and help.

PS I found the post about getting a girl thats a friend drunk as the answer rather repulsive.
 

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So, was it "just a girl" or a "girl that is a friend" who you are afraid to get drunk with (chloroform would work better though). We get the point, but it took you 4 years even when you did absolutely everything right!
 

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Young Stallion said:
You people have absolutely missed the point of my post.

This was not a girl I was pinning over for a long time, she was just a girl who was around for a long time that I turned into more...hell I had 2 or 3 girls on the go while I was seeing her!

I simply wanted to tell you guys through the lessons learned at the end of the story as to how this can be done. I noticed alot of people posting about this and wanted to offer my experience and help.

PS I found the post about getting a girl thats a friend drunk as the answer rather repulsive.


Good post, couple points I wanted to make.


1) Attraction between a girl and a guy whether they start off as just friends or instantly hooking up happens pretty quick. The girl in your story was attracted to you from the start, but her guilty conscious wasn't allowing her to pursue it any further for a long time.

2) Most guys on this board that like their female friends have different issues:

a) they already revealed their feelings
b) have a lack of attraction
c) usually don't spin other plates
d) don't stay in contact with this "friend" for over 4 years

3) Its common knowledge that there are two categories of "friends" that females put males into:

a) the guy who they are attracted to and would date/phuck/etc if they were single

b) the orbiter, the guy who is clueless and AFCish. Since they enjoy the attention and flattery, the girl keeps the chump around and ignores his repeated attempts to move their fake friendship into something more.



In other words you guys were never truly "friends." The word, the way girls use it is really just as illogical as they are.







PIMP
 

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Pimp-sicle said:
Good post, couple points I wanted to make.


1) Attraction between a girl and a guy whether they start off as just friends or instantly hooking up happens pretty quick. The girl in your story was attracted to you from the start, but her guilty conscious wasn't allowing her to pursue it any further for a long time.

2) Most guys on this board that like their female friends have different issues:

a) they already revealed their feelings
b) have a lack of attraction
c) usually don't spin other plates
d) don't stay in contact with this "friend" for over 4 years

3) Its common knowledge that there are two categories of "friends" that females put males into:

a) the guy who they are attracted to and would date/phuck/etc if they were single

b) the orbiter, the guy who is clueless and AFCish. Since they enjoy the attention and flattery, the girl keeps the chump around and ignores his repeated attempts to move their fake friendship into something more.



In other words you guys were never truly "friends." The word, the way girls use it is really just as illogical as they are.







PIMP

Very good points.
 

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to be honest, i think most guys have different issues when it comes to " this one girl" that they like / love.

i know it was for me. i loved her because i had such a good time with her. at the time i hadn't felt it with anyone else.

having that said. i:

a: wasn't spinning plates
b: going out on a regular basis
c: have any clue about pick up.

most guys don't know that they can have OTHER women. because they don't believe in their skill. they clutch at the closes girl they can find.

i know because i have done this. I have NO game and i know that i CAN get some girls if i keep practicing.
 
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