Craig on Elimidate Video

[donovan]

Hey guys,

In Neil Strauss's book "The Game" he talked about one of David Deangelo's friends Craig going on Elimidate using the communities techniques.

After searching I finally found it, and uploaded it to my server. I have posted a link to it on my blog at the link below.

http://attraction-chronicles.blogspot.com/2006/01/double-your-datings-craig-on-elimidate.html

It's interesting and he does a good job!

Donovan

 

[Chosen1]

I have to say that the dude that came in second was way more natural and craig tried a little too hard but he did do a good job at bagging a model oh yeah and i've seen better looking guys

 

[I_Only_Live_Once]

This video is a good example of how using tips and techniques from the likes of Neil Strauss (Style) and speed seduction communities creates winners. It even works on Playboy playmates. The four contestants represented a wide range of people:

-The first guy eliminated had good business and money going for him, but it bored her.
-The second guy eliminated was good looking but had a weak personality--totally beta.
-The third guy eliminated represented a lot of what SoSuave tries to teach. He was natural, confident, good inner game, but didn't know any speed seduction techniques.
-The winner, Craig, was not that good looking, came off as trying too hard and very un-natural. He seemed a little nervous sometimes, but he stuck by his speed seduction tricks well enough that a hot girl like her will choose him every time. Attraction isn't a choice.

 

[DJnoob]

nice post.

Got anymore elimidate eps? I dont mind hosting it on my server

 

[donovan]

I wish I did. Elimidate/Blinddate is a great way to see AFC's or naturals playing the game.

I happened to stumble upon that video on a p2p network only like one person had it.

Hopefully my server will have enough bandwidth

What specific speed seduction techniques did you notice him using?

 

[DJnoob]

craig didnt sound natural compared to #3.

Just fine tune #3 a little bit and he would dominate craig I think.

#3 had his arms around her waste during the semi-final (after she eliminated #2)

Craig didnt kino her or anything.

I think the difference between craig and #3 is that craig acted more mature, adult like and #3 was very goofy, fun, confident but not as mature

I have to go at the moment but this is great stuff. We should break it down and give each other advice on what you couldve better in their situation

 

[Chosen1]

"craig didnt sound natural compared to #3.

Just fine tune #3 a little bit and he would dominate craig I think.

#3 had his arms around her waste during the semi-final (after she eliminated #2)

Craig didnt kino her or anything.

I think the difference between craig and #3 is that craig acted more mature, adult like and #3 was very goofy, fun, confident but not as mature

I have to go at the moment but this is great stuff. We should break it down and give each other advice on what you couldve better in their situation"


I totally agree the whole ass model was stupid because # 3 said something funny right before he did so it makes him seem needy the flowers that was pretty cool the way he did it but what the hell do I know I'm not even a don juan

 

[librito]

the simple reason why craig won is because he had a plan and the others didnt. (flowers, champaign)
you havent notice that by giving her stupid answers to her questions he was pulling a string on her by making her curious about him while all the other guys were trying to show off and giving her all the details about their life.
the guy is a great DJ all the way.
thats the perfect example of a DJ masterpiece in action.

did you notice that all the guys were going crazy about her beauty and craig was just laid back and relax? he is used to picking up beatiful women all the time and the other guys dont. that is the main reason he won.
he knew he was gonna win all the way. thats the first thing he said when he appeared on camera.
unbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Oxide]

Let me ask you guys, what do you think happened with Craig and that model after the camera shut off?

 

[Chosen1]

Librito wrote:

" the simple reason why craig won is because he had a plan and the others didnt. (flowers, champaign)
you havent notice that by giving her stupid answers to her questions he was pulling a string on her by making her curious about him while all the other guys were trying to show off and giving her all the details about their life.
the guy is a great DJ all the way.
thats the perfect example of a DJ masterpiece in action"



Flower and champaigne ain't nothing but I agree with you on everything else dudes do make a big deal about a womans looks and I did like the guys attitude at first when he said
"she'll never meet another guy like me" but he didn't seem all that natural to me especially that ass model thing it seemed scripted to me but funny if you do it just right

 

[librito]

chosen1 said..................

but he didn't seem all that natural to me especially that ass model thing it seemed scripted to me but funny if you do it just right.

how do you expect the man to act when he knows that millions of people are gonna watch his every move on national television???
ofcourse he was probably nervous and thats why he didnt seem to act normal. nobody acts normal when he knows that hell appear on national television.
he looked nervous but at least he had a game to follow and a gameplan . he knew what would come next and was always ready for the challenge.
ofcourse the ass model thing is scripted, thats one of the most known answers that DJs use when they are asked what their job is. I was laughing like crazy when he said it cause thats one of my favorite line for the chicks. it is even writen as a tip in the book THE GAME.
my only question is,,, do any of us had done better if we were put in the same situation as him??
I dont think so.

 

[librito]

chosen1 said..................

but he didn't seem all that natural to me especially that ass model thing it seemed scripted to me but funny if you do it just right.

how do you expect the man to act when he knows that millions of people are gonna watch his every move on national television???
ofcourse he was probably nervous and thats why he didnt seem to act normal. nobody acts normal when he knows that hell appear on national television.
he looked nervous but at least he had a game to follow and a gameplan . he knew what would come next and was always ready for the challenge.
ofcourse the ass model thing is scripted, thats one of the most known answers that DJs use when they are asked what their job is. I was laughing like crazy when he said it cause thats one of my favorite line for the chicks. it is even writen as a tip in the book THE GAME.
my only question is,,, do any of us had done better if we were put in the same situation as him??I dont think so. and thats what separates real DJs from the rest of the men.

 

[DJnoob]

I didnt hear any Negs or any teasing... you guys think it was necesarry here?

 

[The Forms]

I really like that he was laid back and didn't really mention her beauty. He made funny comments, but he didn't feel the need to be a clown like the tall white rocker did.

I used to mess around with a girl that was a model that was used to every guy on earth constantly telling her how hot she was. I never really brought it up. So one day SHE did. She asked why I didn't fawn over her for being gorgeous and basically tried to elicit compliments. I acknowledged that she was good looking, but I downplayed how important her being hot was (but not in some corny ass way).

See, I think that girls (or anyone, really) like to get compliments that they don't USUALLY get. Tell a hot girl you think she's funny/intelligent something like that.

So when she brought it up I said, "well, yea, you're a good looking girl. I mean, that's what most of that modeling thing is all about, right? But that's not really what I'm doing here anyway (she reacted well to vague statements that didn't really say anything but sounded like they said something deeper). Oh, Holy crap, look at that dude's hair."

So I let her know she's good looking, then I hint that that's not why I like her in the first place. Then I changed the subject, so we didn't exhaust the ****ing subject and its all out there. Leave a little mystery. Even if her being hot WAS the only reason I was with her, I wouldn't let her know that. Let her think its because she likes children and animals so much. I don't know. But if you can make her think that you see something in her that no one else does, she'll like that about you, and want to keep you around.

You don't want to be a puppy dog though. Keep a little mystery.

 

[Duke]

I saw it before, but I re-watched it last night. A few things:

When Craig greets the HB, he says something like "They wanted me to come first so I could screen the rest of the guys for you. Don't worry, I got your back."

The frame being that he is the JUDGE.

Also, the other dudes, with the exception of "Nick" were AFC. Though that goth dude was an otherwise normal, and even somewhat funny guy, his frame was weak. In the beginning he says, "I have four words to describe her: Out of my league!"

Nick seemed to have his game together but was also still in the HB's frame. "Are you kidding me? She's freakin' amazing!" He said that before she barely said 2 words. He's judging her based off appearance alone. She could've been crazy, annoying, or a pain in the ass, but nah, just cuz she's hot she's "freakin' amazing".

The older guy never stood a chance. From the moment he opened his mouth I knew he wouldn't win. He talks with hesitant pauses and looked very nervous and insecure.

The rest of the guys were in her frame. Craig was in his own world, and that's why he won. Craig probably did the flowers and champaigne thing because he knew that this was a TV show that appealed to the AFC masses and the girl would've looked bad if she refused his gift. It was his way of leading throughout the whole thing, while the rest of the guys sat on their hands.

 

[Swoop]

I don't think Craig was that impessive compare to the runner up. I think if it was a different girl, the runner up would win. She was a little past her prime and was looking for maturity. Craig was the only viable option.

Notice the runner up got 2 chicks at the end. Even when he lose, he walks away a winner. I think he was the man that night except the target wasn't his type.

 

[DJnoob]

Originally posted by Swoop
I don't think Craig was that impessive compare to the runner up. I think if it was a different girl, the runner up would win. She was a little past her prime and was looking for maturity. Craig was the only viable option.

Notice the runner up got 2 chicks at the end. Even when he lose, he walks away a winner. I think he was the man that night except the target wasn't his type.

yeah. That playboy chick looked like in her late 20s

 

[donovan]

its easy to say that the runner up was a winner, although he really wasn't. He didn't get the prize.

Are you kidding me? That girl was so good looking, and she was a playboy model. comeon! past her prime, for fu.cks sake, she was a real woman.

I think Craig won because he showed alpha status, notice how he rarely laughed at the lame jokes they made. He ONLY laughed when the joke was actually funny, and he rarely put down the other guys on camera. Thats alpha.

He was defintely in his frame, although nervous at times.

I wonder if Neil mentioned anything about that in his book? (eg. what happened to them after the episode..)

 

[MrS]

so what we're looking for is a DJ with speed seduction to get playboy bunnies.

I like! And I'm crappy at speed seduction

 

[Swoop]

Originally posted by donovan


Are you kidding me? That girl was so good looking, and she was a playboy model. comeon! past her prime, for fu.cks sake, she was a real woman.

Should have clearify. I don't mean she is past her prime in looks. She is hot no doubt. I mean she is past the prime in female maturity level. She doesn't carry the young girl party attitude anymore. Prime to me is college chicks btw.