Could you imagine American women paying for pickup lessons?

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I can barely imagine men paying for them.
 

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No one should be paying for them. Parts of the game are things that should be taught in high school. Instead what you have is a generation of pusssy men bowing down to their masters with cash transfers, divorce settlements and end up getting laughed at or ignored in public.
 

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there is no room for more than about 10% of men to be alpha. The rest have to settle for what they can get. You make up your mind which you are going to be, and go for it.
 

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In Russia women outnumber men, nothing else to explain, is said at the beginning.

In western Europe and the Us, men outnumber women, plus half of the women are unattractive, mistery solved.

If I go to Russia I score an hb8 pretty easily being myself a 7 there, if I go to London I may be score a 5 with some work being myself a 7 there.

In Russia I can get sex same night with a 6 almost surely maybe with a 7,in Spain I may get a 6 phone's number and possibly her to pick up the phone or a 7's number and an unanswered text.


Second those women (everywhere) are trying to learn tricks to get married not to get a man, thats the difference, most of them are probably used up goods which can no longer ride the carousel and surprisingly
instead of supplicating afcs, they find raging betas with too much pride to accept of being the second choice and pay the full price for what others got for free.

Btw look around minute 4 when that western b1tch gets treated as most guys get treated in western world, you can clearly see in her face her ego crushing once that man doesnt even reply to her or those
other guys give quick polite answer and keep going, wish all girls would try out how does it feels.
 

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MatureDJ said:
Not surprised by this at all. In American culture, women are seen as the prize. In Russian culture, it's the exact opposite.

This just goes to show that the idea of 'male disposability' and similar evolutionary theory-based explanations for why women have it better in North
America are absolute nonsense. It's all cultural.
 

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Who Dares Win said:
In Russia women outnumber men, nothing else to explain, is said at the beginning.
The claim made in the video is misleading. It is true that there are significantly more women than men in Russia...but only if you take into account people over 65. The average life expectancy for men and women in Russia is 64 and 76 years, respectively, so there is naturally a lot more old women around. According to wikipedia, the ratio for people in the 15-65 group is 0.92/1, which is not a huge difference. And I bet you that for people in their 20s and 30s, the ratio is close to 1:1.

Like I said, it's all about culture.
 

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Bokanovsky said:
The claim made in the video is misleading. It is true that there are significantly more women than men in Russia...but only if you take into account people over 65. The average life expectancy for men and women in Russia is 64 and 76 years, respectively, so there is naturally a lot more old women around. According to wikipedia, the ratio for people in the 15-65 group is 0.92/1, which is not a huge difference. And I bet you that for people in their 20s and 30s, the ratio is close to 1:1.

Like I said, it's all about culture.
I respectfully disagree, been clubbing everywhere in western europe since 2005 and still have to find a club with more girls than guys except few places in poland while the few times I've been in Belarus and Russia the 1:1 ration was the norm and quite often more girls than guys even after 2am.

Its not culture which shapes society but the other way around.
 

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Who Dares Win said:
I respectfully disagree, been clubbing everywhere in western europe since 2005 and still have to find a club with more girls than guys except few places in poland while the few times I've been in Belarus and Russia the 1:1 ration was the norm and quite often more girls than guys even after 2am.

Its not culture which shapes society but the other way around.
Again, cultural differences. In North America, clubs are filled with horny, sexually frustrated dudes hoping to "get lucky". In Russia, guys don't need to go to clubs to get laid. That's why you don't have the sausage fest scene over there. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. I lived in Russia for a couple of years.

Culture does shape society. And society shapes culture. It's a two way process. Ever heard of social engineering?
 

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Who Dares Win said:
I respectfully disagree, been clubbing everywhere in western europe since 2005 and still have to find a club with more girls than guys except few places in poland while the few times I've been in Belarus and Russia the 1:1 ration was the norm and quite often more girls than guys even after 2am..
Okay, if the answer isn't what Bokanovsky said, why do women outnumber men in Russia? They haven't fought any more wars than we have in the US, less in fact.
 

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zekko said:
Okay, if the answer isn't what Bokanovsky said, why do women outnumber men in Russia? They haven't fought any more wars than we have in the US, less in fact.
In all honesty I have no idea, checked some sites for demographics which confirms what bokanowsky said regarding ratio (being them not unbalanced), yet what I saw with my own eyes remains.

Probably guys there dont pedestal pvssy as much as we do therefore dont sell themselves too short playing the dating game in a female ruled environment as the club or being there women not artificially "empowered" still make it easy for men in everyday life or riding the c0ck carousel happens in a different ways to even average guys have a sh0t, cant really tell.

But I know for sure that there were girls liking me and liking guys in general and doing part of the work, which is something surreal in places like London or Rome, guys from there can confirm regarding ratios in clubs or meeting places.

Check this article written from a butthurt western woman about the dating scene in Russia, she in fact experienced there what everyman experience here:

http://exiledonline.com/old-exile/vault/feature/feature9.html
 

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zekko said:
Okay, if the answer isn't what Bokanovsky said, why do women outnumber men in Russia? They haven't fought any more wars than we have in the US, less in fact.
Just looking at the raw stats is a bit misleading. That there is pickup for women suggests that for (quality) men, it's a seller's market, for whatever reason, just as it is for women in the states.

It may very well be that while there are close to 1:1 in certain age groups in Russia, many of those men might not be considered "datable." I don't recall where, but I remember seeing a documentary on Russian mail order brides, explaining that the dearth of "available," "quality" men is due to organized crime, high levels of alcoholism, etc.

There's actually "pick up" classes here in Japan that are similar, but they're more like how to pick up a high income, non-beta males. Lot of broke, AFC, still living with their parents type guys over here, that would rather hide in their rooms and watch anime than go out and get laid.

Pure statistics are often misleading.

So while it may see like Russian women are easy pickings, they may not be looking for anything other than a ring and a stable income from a non-drunken gangster.
 

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zekko said:
I can barely imagine men paying for them.
Nobody blinks when men pay for instructions on pretty much everything else , but paying to learn probably the most important and one of the hardest things they do in life somehow is... weird.

taiyu said:
There's actually "pick up" classes here in Japan that are similar, but they're more like how to pick up a high income, non-beta males.
Similar classes in other parts of Asia too, although the non-beta part is optional.
 

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goundra said:
there is no room for more than about 10% of men to be alpha. The rest have to settle for what they can get. You make up your mind which you are going to be, and go for it.

WOW .... this here is something I agree with.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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