Cougars lament online dating

[iqqi]

For the experts...

Some of you seemed so threatened by that info!!! Geez. And no, I'm not an old hag, I am in my 20's (still, haha). My "chronological" clock will always be younger than my "biological" clock, anyways, so I don't tend to fret over the whole age debate thing.

I also tend to get my information from being well read. In this case, I just read an article on the book's findings. I'm open minded.

"Researchers have found that 34 is the optimum age to get pregnant in terms of health and longevity of the mother, and 32 is the optimum age for the baby. Women who give birth after 40 live longer, but they have more health issues — not bigger ones, just more. There are socioeconomic factors involved, of course."

Your biological clocks are ticking, too. Old timers.

 

[Interceptor]

Iqqi, I just recently read an article from OB/GYN fertility specialists in Florida (Baptist Hospital??) that state that ther optimum age for women is 27!
They were adamant that the info out there was faulty.
So go figure.
When I read that, I was pretty surprised.
I read it in a magazine, I don't know if it's online. I may have to look it up to see if it is.

 

[iqqi]

Iqqi, I just recently read an article from OB/GYN fertility specialists in Florida (Baptist Hospital??) that state that ther optimum age for women is 27!
They were adamant that the info out there was faulty.
So go figure.
When I read that, I was pretty surprised.
I read it in a magazine, I don't know if it's online. I may have to look it up to see if it is.

The truth is, optimum can mean different things for different researchers. In the quote I used, optimum for the mother was longevity and health of the mother.

There are probably differing results in all studies. I just think this whole panic syndrome is silly. Women had children at 14, 15, back in the 1800's and that was normal. Women were having them in their 20's for the last few decades. And that was normal. I think in the future women will be having them in their 30's and THAT will be what is normal. You hear more and more about women having babies late in age. These women probably aren't "biologically" the age they would have been a hundred years ago. Look at Halle, J Lo, they are 40 damned years old and having their first child. They look like they are in their 20's and probably they have aged that way, as well.

Men and women face the same challenges when it comes to aging. Once you hit 50, its another ball park. You can always adopt, however.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

And Elizabeth Gregory is a PhD in which field? John Gray's written a lot of relationship/self-help books and I don't know if I'd call him an "expert."

Regardless, this is what I'd expect as the standard feminine defense to this - times are different now. The problem is that the "optimal age" is being defined from a feminine perspective. The cosmetic, fashion and plastic surgery industries aren't multi-billion dollar affairs because their goal is to make women look older. In fact the benchmark we use for mature women is how well they hold up physically when compared to younger women. So while you can make arguments for a 32 y.o. woman being in a better position to care, provide for, and be in a position of more developed maturity to nurture children, the fact remains they all still want to look younger - why? Because this is gold standard for sexuality for both genders. As women age, their sexual marketability declines, that's the brutal truth. So in order to counter this, in order to excuse women's sexual methodologies, in order have the cake and eat it too contrivances HAD to be developed. Make up, augmentation, high heels, hair coloring, social contrivances, coping rationales, 'shaming' men for their desire for younger women, encouraging women to think they've "still got it" are all devices with one purpose - preserving a woman's sexual value as an ever decreasing commodity.

 

[ketostix]

Some of you seemed so threatened by that info!!! Geez. And no, I'm not an old hag, I am in my 20's (still, haha). My "chronological" clock will always be younger than my "biological" clock, anyways, so I don't tend to fret over the whole age debate thing.

I also tend to get my information from being well read. In this case, I just read an article on the book's findings. I'm open minded.




Your biological clocks are ticking, too. Old timers.

This is just propaganda. I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that all the people who live past 100 years had one thing in common, their mothers were under 25 when they were born. Plus it's a travesty that people in their 20's are having to care for their 60-70 year old parents. It's a travesty that many people's parents will be gone by the time they're in the 30's. I think it's pretty obvious that 22 years old is the optimum age biologically for women to have a child.

 

[STR8UP]

'shaming' men for their desire for younger women, encouraging women to think they've "still got it" are all devices with one purpose - preserving a woman's sexual value as an ever decreasing commodity.

The "shame game" is my favorite cougar tactic cause every point they throw out to try to support their stance is like a clay pigeon. I pull out my 12 gauge and BLAM! One after another.

Then all they can do is retreat to "Well older men shouldn't date younger women. That's just nasty." Yea, in whose eyes? Yours, or the 21 yr old who is sucking my d!ck? Hahahahaha...

 

[Mr. Me]

in order have the cake and eat it too

Bingo! I see woman's profiles where they're around 43 or 45 or so, and yes, they are looking to breed. So I figure, well, it's going to take some time for them to find a guy that meets all their huge lists of criteria, if they ever do, and they themselves may not be handling their baggage well so they're probably not such a great catch anyway, and once they meet this man, if and when, then given some time dating, falling in love, getting married, getting pregnant... if all this happens... how OLD are they going to be by the time they pop out their first child? And some of these gals have dreams about having more than one kid.

And they're getting around to creating that family because they put their careers first for a couple of decades. They bought into the Superwoman, I-Can-Have-It-All bull. They don't realize that single old women with 19 cats have to come from somewhere.

It's sad for the dopes that date them. The gal says she likes hiking or skiing or traveling or dining out or "all that life has to offer" whatever and the guy thinks she'll be fun and a great companion/love, BUT all she really wants to do is breed. I call them "Breeders". She wants to land the guy, get pregnant and I'll betcha all her "I want to travel and go skiing and enjoy going out on the town" comes to a crashing halt as the babies are crying at 3 in the morning and hubby's just an accessory that pays bills and provides semen so that she can "have it all".

I know some couples like that, and one of them now has a handicapped child they have to care for, and another couple, well, the guy is just way down on the totem pole, even his little children imitate their mom and show lack of respect for him.

all they can do is retreat to "Well older men shouldn't date younger women.

I get this from older women all the time. Frumpy, haggard looking, overweight, unsexy older women that expect ME to want to go out with THEM just because they were born around the same year. Yeah, they want to go out with ME because I look 15 years younger than my age and because I still have a 30" waist and have my hair and my teeth and am somewhat muscular LOL and the only guys that will go out with THEM are older, fat, bald, but they don't want THOSE guys.

Fat women who complain that men ought to love them for who they are on the inside are women who look like they have several people on the inside.

Okay seriously, they are people who want to be with someone they deem attractive themselves, but expect the guy to give up being with someone he'd find attractive - in other words - these are not very caring, loving women. Hypocrites!

You know, the only women that DON'T have a problem with men dating younger women are women who still "have it" so that they attract the guys they want. You never hear a PEEP of complaining out of them.

 

[STR8UP]

You know, the only women that DON'T have a problem with men dating younger women are women who still "have it" so that they attract the guys they want. You never hear a PEEP of complaining out of them.

LOL....so true. It's usually only the over 30, gained a little bit of weight (although I have found it true for almost ALL women over this age) crowd that does most of the b!tching.

 

[MatureDJ]

Check out how picky this half a century broad is!

http://spinsterchronicles.blogspot.com/

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Check out how picky this half a century broad is!

http://spinsterchronicles.blogspot.com/

She's pissed because she's dealing with another AFC. I don't think she'd be nearly as picky if she was dealing with a guy who was a DJ.

 

[STR8UP]

Check out how picky this half a century broad is!

http://spinsterchronicles.blogspot.com/

You can actually learn a lot from that blog. Dude went from having her creaming her panties anticipating his phone call to him having to practically beg her for a date in the course of what, a week?

Where oh where did he go wrong? Many ways but 5 1/2 hours on the phone makes me CRINGE.

 

[Blackmm]

Typical cougar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Sp24TlWAM

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...Where oh where did he go wrong? Many ways but 5 1/2 hours on the phone makes me CRINGE.

I thought it was giving her a self help book for Christmas. He should have given her a scale that can read bodyfat percentage.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Typical cougar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Sp24TlWAM

Who's she bending over a chair nowadays anyway? :moon:

 

[Stavrogin]

A few years ago, I sat next to a fat lady at Supercuts. She was complaining about "men" to her hair stylist when, suddenly, the DJ on the radio remarked that the clouds were "pregnant with rain." This lady then said that "only a man" would say such a thing because men have no idea what it's like to be pregnant. The thing that scares me is that bitter man-haters like her are all that is left after 30-35.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...The thing that scares me is that bitter man-haters like her are all that is left after 30-35.

Typically the bitter man haters are the ones who weren't able to either get a man or keep a good relationship. They have to had gotten bitter for a reason, they weren't born that way.

 

[TooColdUlrick]

i caught that article yesterday. it is amusing in that it's centered around how bad online dating is for women. not a word mentioned about how fvcked up women online are.

these washed up self-proclaimed "cougars" are a joke. they think they're entitled.

"A lot more successful, attractive women are using these tools -- I don't think the men match up."

fantasy land. unless of course successful means a half way decent job, divorced, and three kids, and attractive means t!ts that look like two fried eggs and 50 lbs overweight.

online is the place where people can take a shot at landing someone who is clearly out of their league. indeed as the article points out, this takes a lot of work and is frustrating ;-)

 

[bigjohnson]

Actually, dear bigjohnson, 32 is the healthiest age .....

Somehow my post went away, maybe you gave a mod great head or something. Anyway, read my original post. The phrase "mother of my children" encompasses a lot more than "it's still safe for her to get knocked up".

 

[mrRuckus]

Check out how picky this half a century broad is!

http://spinsterchronicles.blogspot.com/

Wow, i didn't realize i was so full of hatred.

"I allowed him to pick me up."

Allowed?! What the fvck! This lady couldn't lick my shoes clean unless she used listerine first.

 

[Mr. Me]

This lady couldn't lick my shoes clean unless she used listerine first

I don't know if that would work. As soon as the Listerine hits her lips, she'd make the Listerine go bad.