Contributing factors to the decline of the Men's Pua and Self Development Scene

[Isildur1]

Why The Men’s Pua and Dating/Self-Development Scene has Declined so much

Disclaimer: Im not a dating coach im just a dating blogger who’s had some experience in the field who writes his own **** re dating , the sexual market etc. For those wondering I spend around 80 p…

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a blog post I wrote highlighting the decline of Men's Pua and Self Development Community and the contributing factors towards this.

 

[Michael Chief]

Even though I worked with some of the big names in the past, I never really put my neck out there during the heyday, and I still mostly do coaching through word-of-mouth only. Gotta start working to fill this void. Hope things pick back up in some capacity.

 

[Isildur1]

Even though I worked with some of the big names in the past, I never really put my neck out there during the heyday, and I still mostly do coaching through word-of-mouth only. Gotta start working to fill this void. Hope things pick back up in some capacity.

I actually met Tom Torero during a meet up in 2019 seemed like a cool dude. His life really fell apart after that Danya Hajjaji article- he seemed like a nice dude and was determined to be proactive it's a shame he's gone.

I also met Yad once while he was coaching but he seemed to fade from his initial fame- pretty sure he had a fake kiss close infield as well which dappened my feelings towards him

But most of those who I looked up to are either dead or just retired.

 

[MatureDJ]

As someone that has lived through the whole life-cycle of PUA from the early days in the internet - OK, there were "How to Hit on Girls" books from the Swinging '70s - I can comment on this.

The internet in general has been as big of a change-event to society as the printing press was about half a millennium ago, and so there was a high pent-up demand for solutions to the mating problem, a problem that became a reality for the first time in human history due to the Baby Bust, which itself was the first time in monogamy-normative civilized history when there was both a decline in fecundity but not also a recent young-men-thinning-war, thus creating a female shortage.

One solution that popped up coincided with the fall of the USSR , but for those that didn't want to GeoMax (PassportBroMax), there was PUAGame that a lot of Incel-normative men could learn to fix their mating problem. Notwithstanding that PUAGame does help a little bit - if only to give its practitioners more cahones to actually talk to women without spazzing out - for most men, it did not fix the problem. The first wave of cynics about PUAGame were the True Forced Loneliness legends like "Roller" Steve Hoca, but eventually the canonical Incel movement came arose from the ashes of all the PUAGameMaxxers that came to the conclusion that PUAGame did not work - and then hypergamy took off with the Tinderization of the mating market to almost totally extinguish the embers of hope that PUAGame had given. At this point, it really was OVER for a lot of men, and the PUA hustlers ran out of customers.