Considering taking a Professional Tonight

[Pinja_Coccos]

Without any further explanations i come to ask you if it would be advisable
to take a professional(here in germany) to break this 21y virginity off of me since i am still very frightened to expose my desire since every time i did that in the past women would play with my emotions.

I have submitted to a lifestyle of NoFap and because i could not stand the depressive states it evokes. I did that for the same reason i am in now: Frustration.

Would it hurt me?

I have successfully destroyed the fear touching a woman i already know before i lost most of my social contacts due to changing to solitary hobbies and being in IT. But i have no real social life at the moment.

/r/theredpill talks about just doing it and i am seriously considering it.

 

[LP700-4]

Amateur troll. 2/10 for effort.

 

[Pinja_Coccos]

thanks for your empathy.

That's what the world is. If you are truly in pain everyone just nods and keeps reassuring everything will be fine. If you are confident "looking" anyways. They don't believe you.

left alone. I am going out tonight and just casually talk to chicks. If i wont get anything near a kiss i will take the professional.

Try living your whole life disconnected from other people. The last 6 months were basically wake up, IT job, sleep.

 

[YAboi]

its not worth it. You will feel better if u go out and get cool girls. Its not hard. Believe in your ability. Small talk and do not be desperate. You are thinking impulsively, think deeper. Get yourself together mentally and weather the storm. There will be better days ahead if u would just focus on socialising and becoming a functional member of society. Is doing a call girl something you will be proud to tell others? these are pertinent questions. ..

 

[Renegade357]

Man, just go find some chicks through online dating or something. I'd hate to see a 21 old guy throw away his virginity and pay to do it. Now if you were 40 and a virgin that'd be a different story. But 21? COME ON MAN

 

[Pinja_Coccos]

Small talk and do not be desperate.

It's saturday night. I was thinking of driving in the next bigger city and hit on girls on the streets while listening to music/podcasts.

roaming like a hungry wolf :crackup:

NoFap Day 3



When i grew up the people around me shamed me for my sexual side and still did up to a few months ago when my physique started to change drastically. Underweight outcast got beaten down further.

 

[denverfan110]

If not troll, dont.

Losing your virginity is all about losing the mental block you have around your mind. That you successfully bagged a girl and slammed her.

How're you gonna break down that mental block when you know you cheated? It's not gonna make you feel any different.

Regardless, you don't magically become a different person once it happens, and your performance your second time in bed likely wont be much better. So perk up man, your first time isn't everything. Work on yourself and if you go out and meet people (especially in your 20s) you're bound to lose it soon

 

[YAboi]

It's saturday night. I was thinking of driving in the next bigger city and hit on girls on the streets while listening to music/podcasts.

roaming like a hungry wolf :crackup:

NoFap Day 3



When i grew up the people around me shamed me for my sexual side and still did up to a few months ago when my physique started to change drastically. Underweight outcast got beaten down further.

That's the spirit bro! don't trade ur dignity for a moments pleasure. Don't make hasty decisions in a moment of frustration. I would advise you focus on just making small talk and being friendly. Don't see it as 'hitting on'. You have what it takes . This sh it is all about human relation. make friends with someone who is great with girls and let him fix you up for starters and just enjoy the presence of women and relax around them. Going out searching for chicks can be rough if you don't behave naturally so I hope for your sake you leave all the mental self defeating talk in the dumps wherw it belongs. Focus on experiencing good vibes and sure enough you will.

 

[Pinja_Coccos]

got a lot of long eye contacts from women that were alone or with their "boyfriend" or whatever it was. One even sped up the walking, so she was out of sight of the dude, tilted her head down and looked me right in the eyes when we were crossing. Only asked a group of ladies and another 2 dudes for direction. I was chill, they were chill and smiling.

Tomorrow is leg day.

Next week i do the same; maybe i talk some more. Also i throw out more job applications at the bars.

I hope i find some cool dudes to go out with.

I still feel the need for physical contact. And i get more and more aloof in life in general.

 

[JoeMarron]

First of all why the hell would someone troll about such a boring subject? Believing everyone is a troll is just as ridiculous as believing everything on the internet. OP you might laugh at this but you might find this more fulfilling than a prostitute http://www.cuddleuptome.com/. Just do a google search for something similar in your area. We all need basic physical touch to function at our best.

 

[Mike32ct]

I don't recommend prosties for the first time. It will do nothing but make you more depressed.

You need to "climb the ladder" one step at a time. Forget about getting laid for the moment. Build up to it in steps. Focus on one step at a time. Sometimes you will hit it off with a girl and climb multiple steps with her.

1. Make small talk with girls
2. Get phone numbers
3. Go on dates
4. Get makeouts
5. Get her shirt off

And so forth..

Or if you are doing clubs, go for dancing and makeouts.

Meeting chicks online is also ok to get some action.

Pretty much anything BUT a professional.

If you're 21 and you're getting eye contact from females, scoring shouldn't be that hard. It only seems that way because it is new to you. That's normal. It will take some time, but it won't be that difficult.

 

[LP700-4]

I don't recommend prosties for the first time. It will do nothing but make you more depressed.

You need to "climb the ladder" one step at a time. Forget about getting laid for the moment. Build up to it in steps. Focus on one step at a time. Sometimes you will hit it off with a girl and climb multiple steps with her.

1. Make small talk with girls
2. Get phone numbers
3. Go on dates
4. Get makeouts
5. Get her shirt off

And so forth..

Or if you are doing clubs, go for dancing and makeouts.

Meeting chicks online is also ok to get some action.

Pretty much anything BUT a professional.

If you're 21 and you're getting eye contact from females, scoring shouldn't be that hard. It only seems that way because it is new to you. That's normal. It will take some time, but it won't be that difficult.

What this guy said. Very few men became the confident men around women that you see. A high percentage of them started out gradually. It was the same with me. Before, I would see just having small talk with a woman as a big deal then whenever I got a number, I would celebrate in my head and thought it was a big deal at the time. Now getting a number is just like drinking water to me. No biggie. From going on dates to escalating and all that, it all built up overtime and became a natural process.

Don't focus on getting laid. My first time, I had NO IDEA I would be getting laid that night. I just remember going on a date with this girl. It was our third date and we were having a good time. Holding hands, smiling at each other. At the end of the date, when I was dropping her off, she asked me if I wanted to check out her apartment (of course I knew what that meant) and the next thing I knew, I was having crazy sex with her. That evening, all I knew was just to go out and have a fun date with her. I had ZERO expectations of ending up having sex with her. I didn't even want to initiate it. I just wanted to have a nice date.

The point is focus on building things up gradually like the guy listed above. Talking to girls, getting their numbers, asking them out on a date, escalating (flirting, touching, making out etc) and the final deal. It won't all happen in one day or one night. Hell even in one month. The girl I was dating, it took us a week each time to schedule each date because of our schedules. Don't rush things. Focus on the step you are and everything else will fall into place. Good luck.

 

[Trump]

I say go for it. The mystique of sex will be gone and you will be more relaxed around girls.

The longer you go without having sex, the harder it's going to be. It's going to consume you, you are going to angry and people are going to know.

If you get up to 24-25 without having sex, girls you date are going to know and use it to their advantage. You date a girl and she knows you are a virgin, she will milk you for dinners and movies and food for 3-4 months before giving it up. You've waiting this long, what is another few months.

 

[switch]

I have submitted to a lifestyle of NoFap

THIS is your problem.THIS is your fvcking problem.THIS THIS HORSESH!T IS YOUR FVCKING TITTY FVCKING PROBLEM.
a no fap challenge? i WANT to RAPE all the fvcking faggot assh0le scmoes who post in that thread.

if this was a bathtub forum in ancient greece,i would shout in the entire forum and then have my slave butt fvck all of them

you know what no fapping does?? FVCKING NOTHING, oh wait it makes you MISERABLE.

look mate im half german, so im making an exception and giving advice on the discussions forum.
the only thing that no fap does is make your d!ck hate you so much it literally wont obey your commands when you need it to lift off for a sortie into the grand canyon.

YOU , no EVERYONE who has problems with getting laid has testosterone deficiency. i dont mean realtionship problems, no relationships are multifactorial in origin , BUT getting laid is positively correlated with your testosterone levels.

heres the fvcking stat formula for pussa:

test + rage = *****

get it?


GO LIFT SOMETHING, you awre in FVCKING GERMANY , if you live near munich and you are not lifting then i dont know what to say to you, seriously.

LIFT , FAP and EAT LOTS OF MEAT + LAGER/ALE
dont take commercial beer for the love of pvssy , dont.

the conventional beer and wine cause estrogen increase and destroy your test levels. take lager instead or better fvcking whisky

i am literally foaming in my mouth right now. who would do this to themselves.....no fap? WHAT THEEE FVCK????.

 

[ZurichBateman]

GO LIFT SOMETHING, you awre in FVCKING GERMANY , if you live near munich and you are not lifting then i dont know what to say to you, seriously.

LIFT , FAP and EAT LOTS OF MEAT + LAGER/ALE
dont take commercial beer for the love of pvssy , dont.
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Kudos for the badass post! That's how life must be lived by Men.


To OP, getting a pro will probably INCREASE your lack of confidence.
I often enjoy the whole phase of seducing a girl more than the actual sex.

 

[zekko]

I've never been with a "professional", but answer me this question:
It seems to me that if you are awkward with women, aren't you also going to be awkward with a prostitute?

I guess if it comes to that point, you're desperate enough that it doesn't matter anymore.
Or maybe it's kind of like talking to the cashier because she's paid to be nice to you?

 

[Mike32ct]

I tried to get a prostie for my first time. She was an older lady who actually talked me out of it. We fooled around a little but didn't go all the way.

I ended up meeting a chick on yahoo personals (now gone) a few months later. It was WAY better to be with a "real girl" who isn't watching the clock lol. Plus, she didn't F five guys before lunch lol.

Anyway, I'm actually glad the lady talked me out of it.

 

[Erotiaris]

Without any further explanations i come to ask you if it would be advisable
to take a professional(here in germany) to break this 21y virginity off of me since i am still very frightened to expose my desire since every time i did that in the past women would play with my emotions.

I have submitted to a lifestyle of NoFap and because i could not stand the depressive states it evokes. I did that for the same reason i am in now: Frustration.

Would it hurt me?

I have successfully destroyed the fear touching a woman i already know before i lost most of my social contacts due to changing to solitary hobbies and being in IT. But i have no real social life at the moment.

/r/theredpill talks about just doing it and i am seriously considering it.

Man without having a social life is really hard to find an attractive girlfriend. I suggest it is cool to hire a proffesional but it needs to be an appropriate one. Not all escort girls(call girls) are the same. If you have money you can find something really good, but it is better to have someone who can advise you in this sector. If you are the emotional type better don't hire one. If you are just seeking for experience then go ahead!

 

[Pinja_Coccos]

I just don't know what to do with my life. My mother is emotionally unstable and also always putting her problems on me and my father never cared for me, yet took me from my mother. So i basically grew up without any real social contacts but the internet.

I was pushing high ranks in a video game and the more i experience from life the more i see all the parallels and why it was an escape in the first place.

I still struggle to find a hobby that i really care about and that puts me in contact with other people.

I cant go to university without first developing more social skills. I just cant isolate myself more from people with studying math or CS without social skills in the first place.

I am seeking to work in the gastronomy again but now behind the bar and full time. Throwing out applications.

Work + Party + workout is what i currently think would help me tremendously.

I'll do my approaches and go out this weekend without any distracting media.

everything starts with I, oh goodness... at least i am now trying to please MYSELF

 

[CHICAGO27]

The first thing you need to do is make friends and socialize. You must have common interests. You said you are a gamer. There are plenty of nerdy gamer chicks. My brother married a girl he met on an Anime forum. Getting laid is great but you should do it the right way and build yourself up. Start from the bottom and establish yourself. I didn't get laid until I was 26 and my numbers are in the double digits. The more you learn and feel comfortable about yourself the better off you'll be.

You should play your V card. Look at Tim Tebow? American professional football player. Being a V can give you an advantage when it comes to chicks because they see it is a challenge. It also gives you a value. Losing it to a cheap hooker for some Euros is a bad idea. IMO