Condom or no condom?

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asking random guys online is a HORRIBLE way to solve the answer to your question..things like 'demographics and age' are correlated into STD rates/pregnancy rates.
That saying, if your on a college campus, then you damn well better be wrapping up your flesh flute.
 

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Leykis recommended tobasco sauce in the condom after use. It will cause chemical burns to her cooch. 2guys have been charged with assault,but both cases dropped.Judge didn't see how the condom in the trash could make it inside her without her intent to cause fraud and claim the rubber broke. When I told an employee of mine this story[she has a son],her response was I'd just poke holes in the rubber.

Just when you think women can't get any crazier,they do. Had a woman I used to respect say"men should have to get vasectomies without anesthetic to make up for the pain we suffer during childbirth"

SO PUT A HELMET ON THAT SOLDIER-unless you WANT some crazy woman making the decisions FOR you.
 

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If you want to be safe, put a condom on.

If you want to enjoy sex, go raw. Personally I hate sex with condoms. I used to do it when I was just fvcking random girls, and even then I had some slips.

Now I live with my gf, I see her take the pill every day, so I'm not overly worried. The failure rate is very low if the pill is used properly. I also have plenty of assurances that my girl doesn't want babies: she has a busy job, she has a lot of plans that could not be realized with kids and, most importantly, she thought she was pregnant before she started taking the pill (misread on a pregnancy test) and she was the one who brought up the abortion talk first.

As far as stds, I know I can trust my girl. But if your girl is in her late teens, early 20s, lives on a college campus, likes to party and get drunk, i would be very careful!
 

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drak_ool said:
Now I live with my gf, I see her take the pill every day, so I'm not overly worried.
It's cool that she agreed to have an abortion and all, but just so you know...the chances of her getting pregnant with perfect use is about 0.3%. So if you bang her 1,000 times, she'll get pregnant about 3 times. Typical use is 8%, so she's probably going to get pregnant 1 in 10 times you have sex. Yikes. Too scary for me. :p

As far as stds, I know I can trust my girl.
You give women too much credit, my friend. I'm sure most guys that have been cheated on didn't think that their girlfriend would be the type.
 

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kody_starr said:
^^It sounds like you are an advocate of abstinence. Are you a monk?
More like an advocate of not ruining my life, heh. For me a pregnancy would be a complete game-changer. It would ruin me both financially and socially, and cause an abrupt end to all of my aspirations of fulfilling my passions. Translate that as, a complete nightmare.

My gf has Implanon, which has a 0.05% failure rate (1 in 2000 times of having sex, she gets pregnant) but most of those failures are due to improper insertion or insertion DURING a pregnancy. I still pull out, and reduce those chances by another 70% or so. So in answer to your question, no...I do my best not to play Russian Roulette with my future. ;)
 

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Feeling is better without the rubber, the chances of getting her pregnant or getting a std are infinitely higher.

So do what I done and get a vasectomy, especialy if you don't want kids for a few years, the op is over in 20 mins and requires a tiny prick in ya sack they pull the wires out and snip them then tie a surgical knot.

Op is also 99.9 % reverable with no issues, plus these days its cheap as chips.

EDIT: Still use a rubber if your not in a LTR
 

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Just a Shot Away, like you I also pull out, so the chances of my girl getting pregnant are minimal. I bet the 0.3% or 8% or w/er the applicable rate is for when you blow your load inside of her, which I don't. If you do it this way, I don't see why you would be worried about it.

As far as giving too much credit to women... I agree with you, most guys that got cheated on didn't see it coming. That's just normal, if you expect a girl to cheat on you then why is she still your gf?

But how many of these guys took an objective look at their girl and the circumstances surrounding their relationship and honestly assessed the risk? How many of them chose instead to stick their head in the sand and hope it would never happen to them?
 

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sodbuster said:
Leykis recommended tobasco sauce in the condom after use. It will cause chemical burns to her cooch. 2guys have been charged with assault,but both cases dropped.Judge didn't see how the condom in the trash could make it inside her without her intent to cause fraud and claim the rubber broke. When I told an employee of mine this story[she has a son],her response was I'd just poke holes in the rubber.

Just when you think women can't get any crazier,they do. Had a woman I used to respect say"men should have to get vasectomies without anesthetic to make up for the pain we suffer during childbirth"

SO PUT A HELMET ON THAT SOLDIER-unless you WANT some crazy woman making the decisions FOR you.
glad you lost respect for that woman buddy, because that my friend is one ignorant person
 

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Love_Games?!? said:
I know she takes it and I usually look at the packet when I'm at her spot to make sure she has taken them for the week and whatnot...
You don´t know anything about women. They are NUTS. They aren´t nuts on purpose, but if the hormones are on work anything can happen. Use condoms man!!!!
 

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Find good, sane girls from good families who have money, who you would consider marrying one day.
 

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Just a Shot Away said:
It's cool that she agreed to have an abortion and all, but just so you know...the chances of her getting pregnant with perfect use is about 0.3%. So if you bang her 1,000 times, she'll get pregnant about 3 times. Typical use is 8%, so she's probably going to get pregnant 1 in 10 times you have sex. Yikes. Too scary for me. :p

I find that hard to believe. If typical use had an 8% rate, then virtually every woman on the pill would be pregnant.
 

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speakeasy said:
I find that hard to believe. If typical use had an 8% rate, then virtually every woman on the pill would be pregnant.
Yes, hes wrong. I forget exactly how its worked out, but the 0.1% chance of pregnancy usually refers to 0.1% of getting pregnant within the year, not from just having sex a single time.

If the girl is taking the pill properly and reliably, odds of pregnancy are extremely low and probably not worth worrying about.

Unless one is in a LTR, you should always use a condom. Doing otherwise is ridiculously stupid.

Pulling out each time to reduce the % also strikes me as bizarre. If you have taken the proper precautions already, this isn't really necessary and only serves to ruin the sex anyway.
 

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Just a Shot Away said:
And I bet the chick won too, since the judge knew that his wife would throw a fit if he let the guy off.
I can't find the clip, but actually the woman lost in this case. It was all pretty funny.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Tesl said:
Yes, hes wrong. I forget exactly how its worked out, but the 0.1% chance of pregnancy usually refers to 0.1% of getting pregnant within the year, not from just having sex a single time.
Well, yes and no. These studies don't factor in how many times a woman has sex in the first year (obviously a woman having sex 3 times a day is much more likely to get herself knocked up than a woman having sex 3 times year). Also, it's more about the individual than chances-per-act. So, the pill has about a 5-8% failure rate. This means that out of every 100 women you bang that take the pill religiously, 5-8 of them will get pregnant. When you walk down the street and pass 20 chicks that take the pill as prescribed, and take them all out on a date and get lucky...1 or 2 of them will cause you to fork out a chunk of your paycheck for the next 18 years. You like those odds?

If the girl is taking the pill properly and reliably, odds of pregnancy are extremely low and probably not worth worrying about.
Yeah, totally man. 1 in 10-20 chance of your life being destroyed for the sake of an orgasm. Not worth worrying about at all. It's all good.

Unless one is in a LTR, you should always use a condom. Doing otherwise is ridiculously stupid.
That's more of an STD deal than a pregnancy deal. Both are potential showstoppers, however.

Pulling out each time to reduce the % also strikes me as bizarre. If you have taken the proper precautions already, this isn't really necessary and only serves to ruin the sex anyway.
Uh...I got news for you, buddy. The only "proper precaution" to ensure there is no pregnancy is abstinence. Any non-hormonal birth control stack further reduces the odds. And I hardly call pulling out at the last second and blasting the chick in the face, or letting her suck it out while you pinch her nose off (ensuring that she takes it all) "ruining the sex." Maybe you're just a straight missionary face-to-face kind of guy, but there's definitely ways to get your rocks off besides just emptying your load towards her uterus.
 

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Just a Shot Away said:
When you walk down the street and pass 20 chicks that take the pill as prescribed, and take them all out on a date and get lucky...1 or 2 of them will cause you to fork out a chunk of your paycheck for the next 18 years. You like those odds?
Just a Shot Away, you keep talking about these scary odds but how realistic are the situations you describe in here? I mean how many chicks that you've just met you will fvck w/out a condom and blow your load inside of them, simply because they told you they are on the pill. I don't think many pple on here are advocating that, especially given the high STD risk associated with that behavior.

Where I really disagree with you is when try to apply those odds to a gf who you see taking the pill everyday. You said she will get pregnant in in 10 times you have sex, which is just totally ridiculous.

are you recommending using a condom when having sex with a steady girlfriend? Because that just flies in the face of reality...
 

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Where I really disagree with you is when try to apply those odds to a gf who you see taking the pill everyday.
Actually, it applies MORESO to a girlfriend than a ONS. I'd venture to say that most guys will be more likely to wrap it up with some strange ass they brought home from the club than with an LTR. The girlfriends take the pill since they get railed on a fairly regular basis, so these are the 20 girls that we're talking about, here.

You said she will get pregnant in in 10 times you have sex, which is just totally ridiculous.
Yeah, I misspoke the stats and corrected myself in the last post. Typical use is 5-8% failure rate, which means that 5-8% of women who have sex at "normal intervals" (whatever the hell that means) will get pregnant within the first year of having sex. That's about 1/10 to 1/20 women. So if you have a girlfriend that's taking the pill, and you guys are solely relying on that method to avoid a pregnancy...you have about the same chance of becoming a daddy that you do to win 10 bucks or more on a scratcher Lotto ticket.

are you recommending using a condom when having sex with a steady girlfriend? Because that just flies in the face of reality...
I'm not recommending anything. Look, man. It all depends on how badly you don't want a child. I mean, you can go to the extreme on both sides of the spectrum...from becoming a monk, to consistently blowing your load while doing chicks doggystyle with no condom, pill, or any other prophylactic. It just depends on the lengths you are willing to go to make sure that it doesn't happen.
 

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I'm not going to lie, sex is about a billion times better without a condom. But personally, I no longer trust anything I can't see and verify for myself. I had a girl that was on the pill "accidentally" get pregnant once when I didn't want to see her anymore. It only takes missing one pill to make the rate of effectiveness go down by a significant percentage. Be careful.
 

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This dude's talking out of his azz. I doubt he has a girlfriend based upon his posts where he talks about running away from ugly girls.

Oh wait, his girlfriend's name is....Rosie Palm!

Just a Shot Away said:
Actually, it applies MORESO to a girlfriend than a ONS. I'd venture to say that most guys will be more likely to wrap it up with some strange ass they brought home from the club than with an LTR. The girlfriends take the pill since they get railed on a fairly regular basis, so these are the 20 girls that we're talking about, here.



Yeah, I misspoke the stats and corrected myself in the last post. Typical use is 5-8% failure rate, which means that 5-8% of women who have sex at "normal intervals" (whatever the hell that means) will get pregnant within the first year of having sex. That's about 1/10 to 1/20 women. So if you have a girlfriend that's taking the pill, and you guys are solely relying on that method to avoid a pregnancy...you have about the same chance of becoming a daddy that you do to win 10 bucks or more on a scratcher Lotto ticket.



I'm not recommending anything. Look, man. It all depends on how badly you don't want a child. I mean, you can go to the extreme on both sides of the spectrum...from becoming a monk, to consistently blowing your load while doing chicks doggystyle with no condom, pill, or any other prophylactic. It just depends on the lengths you are willing to go to make sure that it doesn't happen.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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