Complimenting

[zekko]

Now how is that going to work with attractive women who already hear daily compliments from a parade of men.

Yes, but does she hear a barrage of 10 compiments in 15 minutes?

This guy does have success. He comes across as kind of simple but charming. He would probably be looked up to by most guys here. He is the typical womanizer. He was married, but cheated on her. He's had girlfriends, but he's cheated on them. He's always on the prowl. The way I see it, he can't control his passions, that's one reason I can't look up to him.

I don't know if he had success in this case or not (I don't really care other than as a social experiment). He may have, because:
a) She's kind of on the easy side.
b) She did agree to meet up with him.

Now maybe she'll flake, or maybe she won't give it up, I don't know.
But she had to know what she was getting into.

He does have some strong aspects to his game, he was very sexual with her, and he is very comfortable with women. He's very motivated. The only real problem I had was with all the complimenting. But you don't have to rigidly follow the SoSuave model to have some success with women.

 

[davewe]

'Course, I wasn't there; only one of us was. But remarking on the shape of her boobs and her legs seems less like complimenting in that cloying, subjugating way, and more like a masculine, sexual person saying, 'I'm a masculine man and I like the parts of you that make you feminine.'

Most women still want a dominant man. A man who compliments a woman's opinions or style or personality is subjugating himself before her. But remarking about the physical qualties that make her a feminine woman, might very easily make her see him as a masculine man.

It may not be a style that everyone feels comfortable with, but I bet it works on a lot of women.

 

[zekko]

The problem is that when flirting or attempting seduction, there is an obvious (if implicit) interest in getting something. Complimenting, especially repeatedly, will be received with suspicion and resentment

There's no question in my mind that she knew exactly what he wanted.
Plus the guy has a reputation, so she knew what she was dealing with.
But again, she's sexually open herself, so maybe she saw it as a mutual interest.

But remarking on the shape of her boobs and her legs seems less like complimenting in that cloying, subjugating way, and more like a masculine, sexual person saying, 'I'm a masculine man and I like the parts of you that make you feminine.'

Yes, maybe so. Pretty much all his compliments were on the way she looked. Like I said, he balanced the compliments between remarks on her "sexual bits" and the more general "you're pretty" type.

Of course, pickup dogma tells us that we shouldn't compliment a girl on her looks, but tell her that we think she's "cool" or something specific that she's not likely to hear often.

It may not be a style that everyone feels comfortable with, but I bet it works on a lot of women

Yeah, it's not for me, but he does have some success.
I do think he's supplicating and coming across as lower value. But from his perspective he doesn't need her to stick around, he just needs her to let him bang her once or twice.

 

[heroshima]

My take on compliments is to talk about my "reaction" and not her "trait". That way she doesn't internalize the complement but instead makes it a requirement that I am there as an observer.

Instead of saying "You are beautiful"
Say "I like the way you look"

or even more ****y...

Instead of saying "Your b00bs look fantastic"
Say "I love b00bs"