Complex situation. advice needed

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OK, heres some brief background information. I work at a grocerry store with a lot of attractive girls. One of these girls I was intereted in, started dating one of my closest friends about a year and a half ago. Me and this girl became closer friends while they were going out. Then, the relationship ended abruptly when she got drunk and cheated on him. He found out, and that was that. Shortly after, the girl moved on and started dating a kid she goes to school with, and my friend enlisted in the army. So now, I figured that since my friend was gone, I'd make a move on this girl. I was infatuated, and in hindsight I realize it was a bad idea, knowing that she had a boyfiend, and also what she had done to my friend. But at the time, I thought I could get her to dump this kid to go out with me.

So we started talking a lot more than we use to. We started talking on the phone for hours some nights, and this went on for weeks. Then we started to hang out a lot together. Going to the mall, going to diner, movies, date type stuff. Of course, during this whole time, she was still dating this other kid. But , infatuated, I thought I could still get her. So then I flat out told her how I felt about her. She said she felt the same, but that she wished I would've told her before she started going out with this other kid. This boosted my confidence that this relationship was starting to go somewhere, and thus my infatuation for her became stronger.

Now knowing how I felt about her, she started to play games with me, which I found pretty annoying, but I knew that it was normal for a girl to do that. The thing was, she was using my best friend, who I also worked with, to play them. Whenever she saw me coming, she would start playing around with him, touching him, hugging him, a lot of kino. He knew how I felt about her, so he tried to avoid her when I was around, but she still did it. This went on for a couple weeks, and it really started to piss me off. The final straw came this friday.

She had told me that morning how she thought this really ugly new kid was hot, and that annoyed me a little bit. Then that afternoon, while looking right at me with this big grin, she pinched my best friend's ass. That was it for me. I took her aside and told her how I knew she had been playing games with me ever since I told her how I felt about her, and how it really pissed me off. She got pissed off in return, denying that she was playing games. Then she started flirting with this ugly new kid, right in front of me, knowing that it was pissing me off more and more. It just escalated and escalated and we were snapping at each other all day.

I got out of work at 6 that day, and went to a graduation party that night. She got off at 7. I was starting to feel bad about accusing her of playing games with me. She was pretty convincing when she told me that she wasnt playing games, and I began to think that maybe I had misinterpreted what was going on. So, I figured I would just end the whole ordeal by calling her and apologizing. She picked up, and gave me a kind of "yeah, whatever" type of response. Then in the background, I hear some guy say something like "tell him you'll call him back later, we're busy". so she said she was busy and practicaly hung up on me. This bothered me a little bit, but I went back to the party.

At around 10 mintues after 9, I get a call from my friend, the same one who's ass she had pinched right in front of me. He told me that when he was getting out of work, and walking through the parking lot, he had seen her and the ugly new kid chilling in his car. The guy in the background from when I called her earlier was the new kid. What a strange coincidence that she would be in the parking lot with him at 9, exactly when my best friend would be getting out of work to see them there. I was absolutely furious. I called her again, and she picked up I gave her a piece of my mind. She hung up on me again. So it was around 10 o'clock now, and I was still at the party trying to cool down. She called me and said that I was being controling, that I wasn't her boyfriend and that its wasn't my place to tell her who she can and cant hang out with. I told her that I didn't really care what she did or who with, but that if it is done to play games with me, thats when it becomes infuriating to me.

On saturday, me, her, and the new kid were all working. I ignored her and her blatant flirting with the new kid cause I knew what she was trying to do. Any verbal exchanges between me and her on saturday were loaded with attitude and sarcasm. we were really starting to dislike each other.

Saturday night I decided I would give her a taste of her own medicine.

Today, I flirted with every girl I could. I even flirted with her best friend, right in front of her for twenty minutes. This definitly got to her. She started flirting again with the new kid, but I made sure it seemed like it didn't phase me and continuted flirting with 3 or 4 other attractive girls at once. She was definitly watching. I caught her a few times looking over at me while I was flirting with different girls. At the end of the night, when she was leaving, I told her to tell her friend I had been flirting with that I said hello. It really worked in pissing her off.

Here is where I need help. What should I do next? I think I should probably just break off the whole thing, not even acknowledge her existence. But the vindictive side of me wants to continue with what I did today. The problem is, I still kinda have feelings for her. Before this whole situation, we were really good friends, and it was going well. I wanna slavage that, but I doubt it will happen. I think she may also still have feelings towards me, since she is still trying to play games. I need some advice.
 

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I could be wrong, but from the situation it looks like if she did have feelings for you, they probably went away pretty quick. First of all, you never tell a girl that you're in love with her when there hasn't even been any sexual contact, or even worse a KISS. As soon as you said that to her, her confidence level went through the roof and her interest for you went way down. To avoid being seen as a rude *****, she tried to mend your heart by telling you that "I feel the same way BUT..." BUT nothing. This girl does not have feelings for you. I hate to be brutally honest, but this game has been played by women for hundreds of years.

She sees you as just a friend, and knows she has a hook on you. When she flirts with other guys, it's simply for the satisfaction of seeing you mad. It's like she has her own little dreamworld where you're her puppet and she can piss you off at her whim. Not because she likes pissing you off, but because she likes bringing HER confidence level up. If you think flirting with other girls is getting her down, then you're dead wrong. If you played it exactly the way you said, then she read you like a book. She knows your trying to play games just to get her pissed off.

So your feeling is right. The best thing to do would probably to break things off and start dating new girls. If she comes back, then she comes back. No biggie. Just understand one thing bro.. there's no maybes when it comes to women. If she can't have something with you now cause of this or that, then she doesn't want something with you period. If she was really attracted to you, she would drop whatever she has going and tend to your needs. PLEASE read the bible cause there were so many things in here that you shouldn't have done if you're wanting women to be attracted to you. I feel bad, but at the same time I can say, yup I went through the same thing
 

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WC2 said:
I could be wrong, but from the situation it looks like if she did have feelings for you, they probably went away pretty quick. First of all, you never tell a girl that you're in love with her when there hasn't even been any sexual contact, or even worse a KISS. As soon as you said that to her, her confidence level went through the roof and her interest for you went way down. To avoid being seen as a rude *****, she tried to mend your heart by telling you that "I feel the same way BUT..." BUT nothing. This girl does not have feelings for you. I hate to be brutally honest, but this game has been played by women for hundreds of years.

She sees you as just a friend, and knows she has a hook on you. When she flirts with other guys, it's simply for the satisfaction of seeing you mad. It's like she has her own little dreamworld where you're her puppet and she can piss you off at her whim. Not because she likes pissing you off, but because she likes bringing HER confidence level up. If you think flirting with other girls is getting her down, then you're dead wrong. If you played it exactly the way you said, then she read you like a book. She knows your trying to play games just to get her pissed off.

So your feeling is right. The best thing to do would probably to break things off and start dating new girls. If she comes back, then she comes back. No biggie. Just understand one thing bro.. there's no maybes when it comes to women. If she can't have something with you now cause of this or that, then she doesn't want something with you period. If she was really attracted to you, she would drop whatever she has going and tend to your needs. PLEASE read the bible cause there were so many things in here that you shouldn't have done if you're wanting women to be attracted to you. I feel bad, but at the same time I can say, yup I went through the same thing
Well, that's PARTLY true WC2.

I would add 2 things though: if you still like this girl and you want her to like you back, the easiest way to do that is make her jealous by flirting and dating. Oh my god I can't count the number of times an ex has seen me at dinner with another girl, and called me the next day.

Or if i'm dancing with some girl at a club, then I start dancing with another girl, girl #1 comes and grabs my ass, pulls me toward her etc.

Point is, if you want her still, then I would keep up the flirting/dating, but make it seem like you don't give a sh!t about her.

2nd thing I was going to say is that there ARE maybe's with girls. She might not like you now, but girls act on emotions, not intellect.

This guy may dump her later on and she'll think "Maybe i'll call LadiesMan89, he knows me well, we used to talk for hours" etc.

I had this happen to me.

Roomates gf cheated on him with me, they broke up after he found out etc. She called me up saying she wants nothing to do with me ever again etc. I ruined her life yada yada yada.

4 months later she calls me and we start dating.

So there IS hope, if you still want her that is. I would just say keep up the flirting/dating, and she could come around.
 

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Everything t-money says is true, but I just don't want you to rely on games/jealousy tactics too much. You shouldn't be trying to make her jealous. You dating other girls cause you WANT to date other girls should do it naturally. If you're dating other girls just to make her jealous, then that's the wrong reason.
 

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Well I didn't tell her I loved her. I told her I liked her. It never got that serious between me and her.

The whole situation was a mistake on my part. I've read parts of the bible, and I know girls with boyfriends are usually a no-no. And I know I should've played it cool the entire time instead of letting her know how I felt so soon. I also tried to ignore her on saturday, but what she was doing got to me. I still do like her, and it got to me to see her flirting. Its not just this new kid, shes flirting with everything that has a **** now. I shouldn't let it get to me cause thats whas she wants, but it does. Its hard to ignore feelings.

So next time I'm at work I'm gonna pretend shes not there. If she trys to talk to me, I'll respond, but it'll be quick. I'll flirt around with different girls. I do that most of the time anyways lol. I think it would be the best thing to do just to forget about her for now and try to bury my feelings to avoid this ****. I hate dramatic crap, esepcially when it interfers with work.

Thanks for the advice guys. If anything gives, I'll update this post.
 

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You can't control someone - and the more you try the more it's true.

The bottom line here, is that you need to learn to control your emotions. You should not have told her you liked her - and then calling her up and telling her that she's playing games with you etc. etc. is a big, big, mistake.

You need to game multiple women and stop concentrating on this one b#tch.

Ignore her and what she's doing - this will have a bigger effect on her in the long run.
 

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Complex situation. advice needed
I beg to differ.

I work at a grocerry store with a lot of attractive girls. One of these girls I was intereted in,
Mistake #1: Sticking your dink in the company ink.

I was infatuated, and in hindsight I realize it was a bad idea, knowing that she had a boyfiend,
Mistake #2

and also what she had done to my friend.
Mistake #3: Wanting a LTR with a cheating wh0re.

But at the time, I thought I could get her to dump this kid to go out with me.
Mistake #4: You ignored all the red flags

Then we started to hang out a lot together. Going to the mall, going to diner, movies, date type stuff. Of course, during this whole time, she was still dating this other kid.
Mistake #5: You became her friend.

So then I flat out told her how I felt about her.
Mistake #6

She said she felt the same, but that she wished I would've told her before she started going out with this other kid. This boosted my confidence that this relationship was starting to go somewhere, and thus my infatuation for her became stronger.
Mistake #7: You didn't see that she was rejecting you.

Whenever she saw me coming, she would start playing around with him, touching him, hugging him, a lot of kino. He knew how I felt about her, so he tried to avoid her when I was around, but she still did it. This went on for a couple weeks, and it really started to piss me off. The final straw came this friday.
Mistake #8: You didn't realize that she's not your GF and she has the right to flirt with other guys.

That was it for me. I took her aside and told her how I knew she had been playing games with me ever since I told her how I felt about her, and how it really pissed me off.
Mistake #9: Giving a female friend an ultimatum for flirting.

What a strange coincidence that she would be in the parking lot with him at 9, exactly when my best friend would be getting out of work to see them there. I was absolutely furious. I called her again, and she picked up I gave her a piece of my mind. She hung up on me again.
Mistake #10: Getting involved in 5hit that isn't any of your business. Just because you're infatuated with her, it doesn't mean she's your gf and should obey you.



She called me and said that I was being controling, that I wasn't her boyfriend and that its wasn't my place to tell her who she can and cant hang out with.
She is correct.

I told her that I didn't really care what she did or who with, but that if it is done to play games with me, thats when it becomes infuriating to me.
Poor you! She's hurting your feelings! Guess what? You brought all of this upon yourself by becoming posessive over a female friend that you're infatuated with.

On saturday, me, her, and the new kid were all working. I ignored her and her blatant flirting with the new kid cause I knew what she was trying to do. Any verbal exchanges between me and her on saturday were loaded with attitude and sarcasm. we were really starting to dislike each other.
And now you have to deal with this every day because you pursued a woman at work. You reap what you sew.

Saturday night I decided I would give her a taste of her own medicine.
Mistake #11: Getting revenge. Why? She did nothing wrong.

Today, I flirted with every girl I could.
You should be flirting with women all the time if you're not in a LTR.

It really worked in pissing her off.
So now that you got your revenge, what happens next? Are you going to ask her back out? How did this work in your favor in attracting her?

Guess what? It didn't. You're still in the same goddam rut that you were in before you told her how you feel. You're still dateless. All the energy you put into this woman has gone to waste. You could have focussed all this energy on 10 other women and you would have come out with better results.

Here is where I need help. What should I do next? I think I should probably just break off the whole thing, not even acknowledge her existence.
What the hell are you going to break off? You burned a few bridges, pissed her off, and now have to work with someone who despises you. There's nothing left to break off!

But the vindictive side of me wants to continue with what I did today.
If you continue getting your "revenge", you are no better than the dog chasing his own tail.

The problem is, I still kinda have feelings for her.
You have one-itis and fvcked up all your chances with this woman. Forget about pursuing her, getting revenge on her, and any other energy you want to put toward her and focus it on something else (like flirting with women you don't work with)

I think she may also still have feelings towards me,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :CRACKUP:

Thanks for the advice guys. If anything gives, I'll update this post.
That shouldn't be necessary.
 

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Desdinova said:
I beg to differ.



Mistake #1: Sticking your dink in the company ink.



Mistake #2



Mistake #3: Wanting a LTR with a cheating wh0re.



Mistake #4: You ignored all the red flags



Mistake #5: You became her friend.



Mistake #6



Mistake #7: You didn't see that she was rejecting you.



Mistake #8: You didn't realize that she's not your GF and she has the right to flirt with other guys.



Mistake #9: Giving a female friend an ultimatum for flirting.



Mistake #10: Getting involved in 5hit that isn't any of your business. Just because you're infatuated with her, it doesn't mean she's your gf and should obey you.





She is correct.



Poor you! She's hurting your feelings! Guess what? You brought all of this upon yourself by becoming posessive over a female friend that you're infatuated with.



And now you have to deal with this every day because you pursued a woman at work. You reap what you sew.



Mistake #11: Getting revenge. Why? She did nothing wrong.



You should be flirting with women all the time if you're not in a LTR.



So now that you got your revenge, what happens next? Are you going to ask her back out? How did this work in your favor in attracting her?

Guess what? It didn't. You're still in the same goddam rut that you were in before you told her how you feel. You're still dateless. All the energy you put into this woman has gone to waste. You could have focussed all this energy on 10 other women and you would have come out with better results.



What the hell are you going to break off? You burned a few bridges, pissed her off, and now have to work with someone who despises you. There's nothing left to break off!


If you continue getting your "revenge", you are no better than the dog chasing his own tail.



You have one-itis and fvcked up all your chances with this woman. Forget about pursuing her, getting revenge on her, and any other energy you want to put toward her and focus it on something else (like flirting with women you don't work with)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :CRACKUP:



That shouldn't be necessary.

Take it easy pal. I realize I made mistakes, and I realize this is my fault. Did you feel like rubbing it in would be good advice, or are you just an a s s hole?
 

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Did you feel like rubbing it in would be good advice, or are you just an a s s hole?
Although I'll admit I'm an a55hole, that's not what I was trying to get across to you. I'm pointing out where and what you did wrong so you can learn from your mistakes. If you don't learn anything, you're going to repeat the same mistakes again and again.

Also, if you can't deal with a bit of "tough love", you've come to the wrong site.
 

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I agree with the moderator.

Don't expect to come here and have us tell you what you want to hear. I hope this is a good wakeup call for you - make some changes in your life and you won't be going through these no-win situations in the future.

Good luck.
 

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Whatever LadiesMan, you're doing fine.

Listen to YOURself, not these guys here.
 

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Ok, so today I totally ignored her. I acted like my normal charasmatic self with everyone, and didn't even acknowlege that she was there. I tried to ignore her at first, and then eventually, I didnt even have to try. It was like she wasn't even there. I caught her looking at me a couple times, but she never said anything.

So, tonight, about half an hour ago, she sends me a text message. This is what it read.


Her: "You workin tomorrow"
Me: "Yeah. Y?"
Her: "Curious"
Me: "K. Any reason?"
Her: "No just wondering...im not"
Me: "So?"
Her: "Sew buttons"
Me: "Oh ok lol"


Seems like shes trying to play more games or get attention. Any opinions on this?
 

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Yeah, I know. I've already moved on. I'm just wondering what shes trying to do here because I think I made it blatantly obvious today that I don't have much in the way of feelings for her.
 

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First you have feelings for her now you don't

She has already noticed that and its her victory... Can you blame her? for anything? its her sweet pu$$y thats on the line and she can be picky if not rotten about who she's going to give it too..

Take the attitude that chicks will be biatches... All 100% of them... move on..
 

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I wouldnt say it was a victory for her. Me letting her know that I had feelings for her was pretty much like handing my balls to her and gave her control over the situation. Maybe that was a victory. But now that I'm not there to give her attention anymore, shes starting to miss it. Thats why I think shes trying to talk to me. She has always been quite the attention *****. I dunno, could be wrong
 

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LadiesMan89 said:
Ok, so today I totally ignored her. I acted like my normal charasmatic self with everyone, and didn't even acknowlege that she was there. I tried to ignore her at first, and then eventually, I didnt even have to try. It was like she wasn't even there. I caught her looking at me a couple times, but she never said anything.

So, tonight, about half an hour ago, she sends me a text message. This is what it read.


Her: "You workin tomorrow"
Me: "Yeah. Y?"
Her: "Curious"
Me: "K. Any reason?"
Her: "No just wondering...im not"
Me: "So?"
Her: "Sew buttons"
Me: "Oh ok lol"


Seems like shes trying to play more games or get attention. Any opinions on this?
Alright bro, you're not getting the idea. Don't worry though, it takes a little while to understand. You flat out ignored her and made drastic change. She knows. Now it's over. She knows you're trying to upset her in hopes that she'll like you again. ITS OVER. You just put the cherry ontop.

What you should have done is just remained your normal self. It's not attractie to a woman when a man changes his lifestyle just for her. Here, you clearly did that. The right thing to do is to ignore her pleas for attention. Not to act like a jerk to her when it comes to regular talk or gossip. Please, find another girl and just remain friends with this one.
 

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WC2 said:
Alright bro, you're not getting the idea. Don't worry though, it takes a little while to understand. You flat out ignored her and made drastic change. She knows. Now it's over. She knows you're trying to upset her in hopes that she'll like you again. ITS OVER. You just put the cherry ontop.

What you should have done is just remained your normal self. It's not attractie to a woman when a man changes his lifestyle just for her. Here, you clearly did that. The right thing to do is to ignore her pleas for attention. Not to act like a jerk to her when it comes to regular talk or gossip. Please, find another girl and just remain friends with this one.
The thing is dude, I'm not doing it to piss her off. I genuinely just dont wanna have anything to do with her anymore. I dont care how it might seem to her, but I'm not changing my lifestyle. I'm just not talking to her. I'm still me, that hasn't changed a bit. And as I said, I'm not trying to piss her off, hoping that she'll like me again. Im starting to move on, and thats what I was trying to do. Obviously I havn't completely moved on since I'm still posting about it here, but still. **** her. It's over, I know it, I don't care if she knows it. Thats that. I've taken control of the situation again.
 
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