Competing with a older guy and I think I lost.....

[toot86]

I was seeing this girl that recently joined our mountain climbing club..


once she got there I said DAM this girl is hot.. And so did like all the other guys in the club , but the only one that was getting good vibes was this cool looking 21 year old.. AND me..


Shes 19

Iam 18 anyway weeks passed i do the reuglar seducing things..

while the 21 year old asked her out the very second day to a club.. I waited..

after 2 weeks passed I invited her to go to a party and she said sure.. so we went and some fun . and to end the night we made out.


next week i invite her to a club .. and after the club we got all freaky in the car .. foreplay mostly..


she flirts with the 21 year old still after are time together.. she flirts with me too.. but maybe shes a flirty girl


the next week i decide to invite her to hang out at my place.. so I can put the moves on her.. first she is very responsive but i felt as she wasnt in the mood..
so we didint do anything


the next day she goes out with the 21 year old.. with another guy at are club too.. 2 a little get togehter at there place


and I the guy that went with him told me that they might of screwed in there place.. so I feeling messed up.

what input could you guys give me

exept for NEXT..

by the way i told her to keep are flings a secret to all the club members


how should i treat her next time i see her at the MC club

any tips on how i can turn this situation around in my favor PLEASEEEE

 

[ozzfest]

here's a tip..its "our" not "are"

 

[Halo]

I think part of your problem was being hesitant, whereas he asked her out on the second day. Even though you still got a bit of action, in her mind she probably perceives him as the more aggressive (i.e. manly) one. We've all had this problem at one time or another. Women, especially in her age group, also attach a sense of status to older guys. This might be because guys at a similar maturity (socially and emotionally) level are usually older, but I think there is also a biological explanation for this apparent preference they have for older guys.

I decided to compensate for my similar problems at that age. In my mid-20s now and I just slay the 19-21 year old girls left and right.

Good luck

 

[Julian]

It sounds like the 21 year old is going to do the work for you. Is it Dj to ask a girl out every day? Or every other or day or hell every 3 days? No, of course not. It drips desperation and chicks dont like that.

If i were you i would continue to DJ, next time you see her just act like she never went out with the guy. Just dont come off as needy of her.

 

[DYDevotee]

Well, most people don't like getting advice from me because I'm not very tolerant for failures, so I'm going to lay it out for you.

1. Your first mistake was acknowledging that she was attractive. The girl I'm seeing now, the first time I saw her after talking to her on the phone, other guys were staring at her and going out of their way to impress her, I said "You're late."

2. The 21 year old looked "cool," he probably wasn't trying to act macho, or too interested in her, and that made him interesting to her when she saw him and thought, "hey, this guy isn't like all the rest, he's not falling for me the first time he meets me, and that interested her."

3. The 21 year old asked her on day 2, you waited 2 weeks, maybe wait 3 or 4 days at the most, but when there's other guys involved, don't let yourself get left behind while they're going out and doing things together. But remember, never let her know you're competing with him.

4. If she's been seeing the 21 year old for two weeks before you even asked her on a date, of course she's going to have feelings for him as long as he's not blowing it. Kissing won't seal the deal with her.

5. How do you know she's not in the mood, if she's not, she'll say something, an attractive girl who gets hit on all the time doesn't let any guy fondle her, she's used to it and she'll have the confidence to say no if she doesn't want it. Persistence is key. Maybe you weren't in the mood.

6. Don't ever, ever, say anything as gay as this again, "keep our flings a secret" it probably made her think you are insecure or embarrassed to be making out with a hot girl. It has "puss" written all over it. And if you're embarrassed to be kissing her, what would make her think you could handle having sex with her.

7. In my opinion, you did too many things wrong to make it work with her. She probably has a bad first impression and that's hard to shake off. The only advice I can give you is not to go out of your way to talk to her when you see her, if she comes over to talk to you then thats a good sign. Kind of ignore her.



* saying Next isn't a practical way to think, it's apparent you're hung up on her, but try if you can to see more girls to help ease off of her.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Is this happening with any of the other women you are seeing? You are seeing other women too, right ????

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Learn from all the mistakes that were pointed out to you in the above posts.
"He who hesitates, masterbates."

Just remember, you will one day be in your mid-late 20's, but will you learn and improve your 'Gamesmanship'? If you do, you will be the one that will be attracting the young hotties, while the guys their age won't stand a chance.

I am in my late 20's, get a lot more stares, smiles, and great reactions from the younger girlies than I did when I was their age.