Comparison Test: Which guy will pull more tail?

[Mike32ct]

It's project mentality. Women want to think they can be the one to "fix" the guy. Men do the same thing by being white knight Captain Save-a-ho.

Love isn't logical. That is a very fundamental part of understanding behavior. Many life decisions are emotional, and throw logic out the window.

By the way, I'm technically unemployed, and I get plenty of pvssy. I don't quite live with my parents just yet, but I would still get laid if I did.

I completely agree. But women never seem to want to fix the nice guy. He's a project too, but perhaps the wrong kind lol.

 

[No.Danny]

I'll tell you how women feel about nice guys "he's boring! Not hot like the bad boy" it's simple

 

[Bokanovsky]

In North America? B, for several reasons:

- IDGAF attitude
- "bad boy" appeal
- drugs
- more time on his hands

A sounds like a typical, average looking, middle class provider type. He would fare better than B in an impoverished third world country, where a woman needs a male provider to survive. Since North American women, by and large, no longer rely on men financially, much of the provider appeal is lost. Now don't get me wrong, if A was a millionaire, he's still have gold diggers lining up to bang him because he'd be able to provide them with the kind of lifestyle they themselves could not afford. But an average working stiff could not do that. So all you have is just some boring dude with a boring job and a college diploma. In other words, not exactly gina tingling material.

 

[GS750]

Depends on the woman. If she's looking for fun, excitement, and drama (not boring) then B. If she's looking for stability, provider hunting, a husband, or is a single mother then A. But she may still fvck guy B behind guy A's back. Why? Because he makes her wet. Guy A buys flowers.

 

[skinnyguy]

Because where you are finacially is not where you will stay ur whole life.

Fat guys are unattractive, but if he explains to the girl that its a thyroid issue. Or that his family member passed away two months ago and hes still coping, then she will likely overlook that part.

Unemployed dudes have game...good game. Thats why they have chicks.
You dontvknow the whole story. And just cuz he has her at the moment doesnt mean shes on her way out.

You focus on others dude.

Say he has a big shlong and she loves that.

Not everyone is cookie cutter mindset like urs...oh i hav my shyt together so i must be getting some.

If youre going through a dry spell i feel for you. Being in the bay seeing hbs everywhere gets to me too.

But you have to significantly change something about yourself if u want to see change.

Try a crazy hair cut, get buff...be super outspoken in public...dont give a fvck.

Or youre doomed with your current lifestyle choices. Come on skinny....its not that hard.

Act as if your nuts squirt out chocolate and youll have a line of chicks waiting on you.

Thanks for your reply. I actually agree with most of what you said.

It has occurred to me that being educated is equated with being a nice beta faggot.

What bothers me still is that this website preaches "working on yourself" but that seems to have little to no effect because loser bad boys are cleaning up.

 

[_sideways_]

It's project mentality. Women want to think they can be the one to "fix" the guy. Men do the same thing by being white knight Captain Save-a-ho.

Love isn't logical. That is a very fundamental part of understanding behavior. Many life decisions are emotional, and throw logic out the window.

By the way, I'm technically unemployed, and I get plenty of pvssy. I don't quite live with my parents just yet, but I would still get laid if I did.

So how do u get cash...just curious...

 

[_sideways_]

Thanks for your reply. I actually agree with most of what you said.

It has occurred to me that being educated is equated with being a nice beta faggot.

What bothers me still is that this website preaches "working on yourself" but that seems to have little to no effect because loser bad boys are cleaning up.

YOU equate being educated with being beta...

So act like a loser bad boy when ur out trying to find the love of ur life. Lol jk

Damn skinny....

Think like batman.

Bruce wayne is guy A, batman is guy B. Same guy...different mindsets. Both kick ass in life. But batman is when the guts and excitement show up.

Its you thats failing yourself skinny, not the system, the state, the girls, the bad boys cleaning up. The cops that dont put them in jails.

Most guys here are educated or attending college...guess what...when we go out we dont put on our "i graduated with honors" shirt. That shows itself later when theyre in my home and see my awards.

YOU want to be seen as educated with a decent pay check month to month, u wont cheat, youll watch tv with her, etc...AND THEY SEE THAT. Hence, no luck.
Now think of this...keep all good stuff...but when ur in the streets, dont advertise it. Instead advertise a vibe that u got pie eating skills. The picket fence is the ace up ur sleeve...until then, enjoy the fruits this earth has to offer.

 

[skinnyguy]

YOU equate being educated with being beta...

So act like a loser bad boy when ur out trying to find the love of ur life. Lol jk

Damn skinny....

Think like batman.

Bruce wayne is guy A, batman is guy B. Same guy...different mindsets. Both kick ass in life. But batman is when the guts and excitement show up.

Its you thats failing yourself skinny, not the system, the state, the girls, the bad boys cleaning up. The cops that dont put them in jails.

Most guys here are educated or attending college...guess what...when we go out we dont put on our "i graduated with honors" shirt. That shows itself later when theyre in my home and see my awards.

YOU want to be seen as educated with a decent pay check month to month, u wont cheat, youll watch tv with her, etc...AND THEY SEE THAT. Hence, no luck.
Now think of this...keep all good stuff...but when ur in the streets, dont advertise it. Instead advertise a vibe that u got pie eating skills. The picket fence is the ace up ur sleeve...until then, enjoy the fruits this earth has to offer.

I have always told myself I would never sell out for puss. There are things that I like to do that I wouldn't give up for women. I like talking about intellectual things, not being a dbag, and being stable. There was a time in my life about 7 years ago in which I was not stable and almost committed suicide. I don't want to go there again. I like my current life and my profession. I guess I will have to hold out for a girl who values a man with values and compassion for others. I'm hosting an event in two months for a charity that assists victims of domestic violence. It's not as sexy as having neck tattoos, but it's me. I think that in the end, I will be better off being myself and not acting like a thug because women can see right through that.

 

[_sideways_]

Then if u stick to ur guns you dont need to be concerned why thugs get girls...

Again...its you choosing your lifestyle.

Charity hosting dudes can get girls, but like u mentioned...it will take patience.

 

[dk1990S111]

I have always told myself I would never sell out for puss. There are things that I like to do that I wouldn't give up for women. I like talking about intellectual things, not being a dbag, and being stable. There was a time in my life about 7 years ago in which I was not stable and almost committed suicide. I don't want to go there again. I like my current life and my profession. I guess I will have to hold out for a girl who values a man with values and compassion for others. I'm hosting an event in two months for a charity that assists victims of domestic violence. It's not as sexy as having neck tattoos, but it's me. I think that in the end, I will be better off being myself and not acting like a thug because women can see right through that.

I stand right there with you man, I watched in high school as all the "cool kids" who did drugs got girls easily. Do I sell out and do drugs too so I can be part of their social circle? Nope, to this day I have never tried an illegal substance despite being offered weed and cocaine several times from friends. Now a few years later I make good money for being 23, I have a brand new car on order that I am paying cash for, and I have to laugh when I see the cool kid from high school serving my table at elephant bar.

 

[skinnyguy]

I am starting to become fundamentally against changing yourself in order to attract women. If a girl doesn't like me for exactly who I am, guess what? F*ck her. Let her get cheated on and abused by guys with shaved heads and tattoos.

I may not be Channing Tatum, but I do like myself a lot. I am contributing to society in many ways, and I always carry myself with class (except that one time I got thrown out of the bar)...

Just because girls these days are AW's on instagram and playing interest games doesn't mean I have to succumb to their stupidity. My MO is talking about things that have substance and finding people who have a healthy outlook on life. Since I am in my 30's I don't care about ONS or hooking up.

 

[Eph]

At the risk of sounding like I'm trolling, I will answer your question.

In the SOS community we preach "working on yourself" to get more attractive to women. Now, some people say that SOS is just about improving yourself. But the reason you want to improve yourself is to GET WOMEN. I don't think any guy in here can say with a straight face that they only what's in the mirror and not about getting laid.

That being said, some guys pull tail without trying at all. What might take a guy years and years to do through hard work may not be enough, while another guy is just fvcking around and already ahead of that person because of his innate qualities.

I'm going to complain a bit. If you don't want to read about it, then stop reading right now.

I am a person who has 2 degrees, a great job, and I have good habits in general. I'm not getting in trouble with the law or acting like a complete douche. But what I have learned in my 1 year on this site is that being a douche makes you more attractive to women!


And I disagree with the above poster about how only stoner chicks would want that guy. Even blonde HB 9's would be into that guy because of how he is, while passing up the professional well put together guy.

I think that the last ten years and flipped dating on his head. No longer should you be a clean cut guy with goals; instead you need to be a complete nimrod with tattoos. At least that's how it is in California.

I'm 32 years old, and I still don't understand why women who have jobs and a decent family background are into guys who look so sloppy and are on drugs. I do not cold approach anymore because of this specific reason. Now, my cold approach was always horrible - I'll admit that. But even still I don't have the "look" that most women want which is a thuggish/druggie look.

Sorry for this guys...I just really had to get this off my chest. I know that there are guys on here who agree with me because there has been a lot of frustration with women on this board. Asking a girl on a normal date is long gone. You have to either use trickery or be covered in tattoos and have a shaved head if you want to get female attention. If you don't believe me, do a social experiment and put up a pic like that on POF or Match.

You seem pretty bitter that while you have to work for success, there are those who don't seem to do anything, and are just as successful if not more. You have to get rid of this attitude. No matter what they say, we (humans) are not born as equals - well, at least in the sense people want to believe we are. Some of us are born better off. Some of us are born more attractive, some of us with more opportunities, or wealth. Some of us have the perfect attitude for getting laid.

On the other hand, some of us have to work hard for success. That seems to be you. Instead of complaining, go out and improve yourself. Become so damn amazing, women flock to you because they understand you're a man of high value. So damn high value, that this other guy you're comparing yourself to is no longer even an option.

As long as you have this self-defeating attitude, it will only get harder to get women. What women wants to live out her days with a guy that complains more than she does? None of the ones you want anything to do with. So, work on yourself, and disregard things out of your control. So, maybe he tries less than you and gets more. Lucky him. You have to work hard towards it, but so what? There are things about you that just seem to come natural, while others just can't seem to grasp it. Know yourself and seek self-improvement.

 

[zekko]

This entire thread is nonsense. There is nothing sexy about a guy who lives with his parents and needs mommy and daddy to give him his beer money. You guys are so conditioned into thinking that women want losers that you've lost all perspective.

You guys model your lives after B and let us all know how that works out for you.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

As is a standard for SoSuave, an indeed the world in general, the OP is seeking a black and white answer, where actually the answer is a rather dull shade of grey. People are attracted to other people for all sorts of different reasons.

The original question is completely loaded and very restricted by quiet specific examples.

The only thing that guy B has over guy A is his IDGAF attitude, which yes, will make chicks attracted to him. Alas it is just about the ONLY facet of his being that birds will be consistently attracted to; because he is seemingly independent. But at the same time, he is totally dependent; for money, for resources, blah blah blah.

Personally, I have been a mixture of both of these characters; and I aim to become a slightly different version of that mixture; i.e. become more successful for myself (resource independent) and keep the IDGAF attitude (mentally and emotionally independent).

This and ONLY this is the ideal state to strive for; not A, nor B on their own.

1) IDGAF attitude is alluring to women. Resource dependence it not (trust me, I've been there and it ultimately leads to failure if it lasts too long, regardless of attitude).

2) Being an unsuccessful, down and out loser/criminal is not alpha. The reason they (usually) get women (I imagine) is because they attract highly emotionally weak individuals, who themselves have little or no moral value nor self-esteem, which indeed, some of the better-looking broads do not have a particularly high self-esteem despite appearances.

3) Being successful is not beta. Providing too much for a person who doesn't appreciate it and/or reciprocate is beta.


Some SoSuavers would do very well to stop themselves seeking such unilateral answers to fairly inane and ultimately closed questions. We must realise that this issue is like all other universal phenomena; on an almost infinitely variable continuum.