Commonly believed but found to be 100% false...

[IamtheAlphamale]

Ok so for a long long time I was always told from this site that its not worth trying to get a girl to drop her strategy because she never will. Ok so this girl was playing hard to get **** and I called her on it and no she did not immediately drop it. But after I stopped talking to her and told her ina message it was only because of the games and not because of her because I liked everything else about her and that shes gorgeous, she dropped the games. About twice a week I find out where shes going because her friends tell me. When I am going out with anyone to a bar or anything she will ask to come. Not only that shes trying to get me to come. People have told me shes stalking me. This girl is a serious 9.5 and her IL is through the roof. We never fooled around or anything and... I have oneities for her too. So remember every law or whatever you want to call it can be broken in situations.

 

[Obsidian]

whatever man. you haven't actually gotten anywhere significant with her yet. And with your attitude, you probably won't. Don't worship her or let her control things.

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

I'm not. And your rules **** does not apply to me I could care less. If I don't end up with her I am where I am now. Don't think because of my post I've made serious mistakes.. there were none made. I am just telling you that this stuff is not in stone.

 

[wayword]

after I stopped talking to her and told her ina message it was only because of the games and not because of her because I liked everything else about her and that shes gorgeous, she dropped the games.

I actually agree.

AFCs are too damn nice. This is like rewarding a dog no matter what it does.
rAFCs neg too hard. This is like punishing a dog no matter what it does.

Both of these are like Communism because the girl gets the same results no matter what she does - so why should she try to do anything good? It makes no difference.

So, a decent PUA CALIBRATES accurately. He push/pulls responsively and actively trains the behavior he wants.

Just don't fall back into AFCness dog! Walk the line without falling off to either side!

 

[Drum&Bass]

Very NICE realization !!!! you were totally honest with her and yourself !!!! Even better you had the GUTS to tell her how you feel !!!

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES listen to any of these fools that tell you there needs to be a strategy or law !! THERE IS NO LAW !!!! THERE IS NO STRATEGY !!!! just 2 people, one with courage to show the other that its ok to be vulnerable and take risks (you the leader)...now she is showing you her weak vulnerable side and taking a risk on you..SHE TO HAS ONEITIS for you that is her weakness, her over infatuation and she is taking a risk by letting her true nature show. communication and understanding will help things grow between the 2 of you.

Maintain your individuality, compassion and boundaries !!!! always expect to lose her at anytime, but don't let it scare you !! good for you IamtheAlphamale !!! you are now a step ahead of the rest of the chumps around here don't blow it!

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

Don't worry. This was actually a pretty long process. Trust me I've been doing this dj **** for a lot of years and well.. no 'mistakes' were made. I just improvised a lot. I kept upping her IL and showing her games were bad. Now shes right where I want her. And I set up something for friday with some mutual friends so she will definately be there. All I gotta do is not come on strong at the start of the night like she still needs to prove herself to me a bit. Really this is not a strategy by me.. its actually how I feel so.. if she shows me what I want I will let her get what she wants.

 

[Bonez]

"toe the line" Be ready to fall off the edge any moment and revel in the fact that you're on the brink of failure all the time.... nice guys choose to stay in the comfort zone which means they will fail due to inaction.

I am just telling you that this stuff is not in stone.

Yes, most of us agree with you there iatam. Nothing is written in stone, you can sarge when you smell like dog feces and still get the girl if you excel in other areas. Don't count on it though, smelling like dog crap is bad for you in general and one slip up and things can spiral downwards faster than going in with a common sense plan that you can explain to others. Bad example, but no matter, there are guidelines of course, but you also have to judge for yourself. Thats because the game is dynamic, you can go in with 1000 lines and theres the chance that none of them will work.

 

[Obsidian]

Ok so for a long long time I was always told from this site that its not worth trying to get a girl to drop her strategy because she never will.

She hasn't dropped her strategy. Her strategy is to qualify you, and you've passed...for now.

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

If I don't act on friday then either I am still not interested or I have no balls I'll give you that. Her strategy is to get me same as before. The difference is she is no longer using cosmo to do it. This thread went really personal by accident here. I don't need the advice I am giving it.

 

[Obsidian]

Ok, so your point is that you can get them to drop the cosmo bullsh1t. Apparently your situation proves it, so I'll grant that much. Most of the comso-type stuff is socially-imposed and unnatural anyway.

But to say that she's going to stop acting like a woman just because she has a high IL atm is very naive. Her core strategy is to qualify you. She will continue to test you in very subtle ways, I'm sure of that. Everyone here knows how fast a girl can flake.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

She hasn't dropped her strategy. Her strategy is to qualify you, and you've passed...for now.

Good catch...

 

[Br' Brian]

Interesting insights, hmm.

 

[Kwello]

I fail to see how you broke the common beliefs here...

Common beliefs:

- Assume the dominant role
- Be the prize

Those are the only two rules that I would actually say are set in stone. Everything else is just situational speculation on how to achieve those goals.

You laid down the law and told her how **** was going to be. You're making her work to be with you. So how is this not assuming control and becoming the prize?

As I said, those two points are the law when it comes to dealing with women. Anything else on ALL of these seduction sites are merely a means to that end. If you can implement a different strategy to achieve those two goals then that's great, but you haven't broken or event bent any rules here.

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

I fail to see how you broke the common beliefs here...

Common beliefs:

- Assume the dominant role
- Be the prize

Those are the only two rules that I would actually say are set in stone. Everything else is just situational speculation on how to achieve those goals.

You laid down the law and told her how **** was going to be. You're making her work to be with you. So how is this not assuming control and becoming the prize?

As I said, those two points are the law when it comes to dealing with women. Anything else on ALL of these seduction sites are merely a means to that end. If you can implement a different strategy to achieve those two goals then that's great, but you haven't broken or event bent any rules here.

Yeah I know. And btw I have actually asked her out 3 times. So that whole inaction thing isn't in the game. This was a long process to get her to drop the cosmo **** btw. She had to believe she had lost me because of the games. And she did. I am just thinking I will give her another chance since she actually dropped the games. I realize you guys think I have not done any action or anything but I did and I realized it was pure games because she thought she had to use that **** to get me, yet that was what was holding me back.

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

After the 3 times and the way she acted.. well its hard to explain.. they were not text book ask outs. I basically did this by accident. I kinda was just between giving her a last chance and nexting her. And then I decided to next her and she came on strong when I explained everything.