Common bullsh*t and the answers to it! Reality Folks!

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A lot of these problems would be solved if people would stop dating shallow women. Too many people assume that these women are suddenly going to change if they have these things. If a girl doesn't like you because you don't have a nice car or gorgeous looks - they're not going to start liking YOU because of these things - only the things you have. Nothing changes on their end. They're not going to suddenly love you, and all these things people envision about.

Same goes for not attracting *****es as a good guy. They're not going to stop being *****es because you start acting like a jerk. You might attract them, but they're still going to be *****es.
 

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Dude as always you know the real deal and you bring it to these folks who need to see it.. great post you save me from having to type this stuff cause i agree 10000% with all of it...
 

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I read the first few paragraphs and then stopped because i thought he was trolling. I guess he's serious.

Nismo seems to be identifying self worth by material belongings.

You are not your car
You are not your job
You are not your ****ing khakis
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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DonGorgon said:
Dude as always you know the real deal and you bring it to these folks who need to see it.. great post you save me from having to type this stuff cause i agree 10000% with all of it...
Damn right Nismo knows the real deal!

There are some things that the judge forgot, and I hope he adds this to his courtroom files. Maybe he's in chambers. :rock: I'll continue his format.

11. Beautiful women hardly get asked out.
Bull to the sh*t! Now that PUA material is wildly popular, it constantly gets used on prettier women. They know what men want, and they still have to choose you dumb ass. More men have heard this rumor, believed it, acted on it, and now this rumor is null and void. No wonder why the standards women have are so high. They can date out of their league. If an average joe goes for someone who looks like J.Lo, there will be riddles and puzzles to solve, essentially, an obstacle course. But when a rich, well built guy comes into the picture, he often gets to bypass these silly mazes (Warp to world 8) and the average guys fade into the background.

12. Women don't talk about men who go after them.
Oh yes they f**kin' do! Try to go for one in a club, bar, or party. If you get a rejection from one, the next one is typically right behind it! Women will talk about you, and most men have an uphill battle. Most of the time, they label you quickly. If the label is bad, you're screwed.

13. Women don't know what they want in a man.
I can't believe how many men actually believe this sh*t! Women want an alpha male. With good looks. With lots of money. Extra points for fame. Women know how to size you up by looking at you. Sure, they can't instantly pick out a millionaire among 10 men. The guy with the Honda Accord and the Eddie Bauer gear might be the millionaire alpha male just like the guy with the Armani Suit and the Maserati. Or he could be just faking it. Who knows. You should always be physically and financially fit.

14. Game trumps all.
Oh, f**k no! You still gotta look the part. Or screw the rules if you got money. Like Rollo said, your bullet proof game won't make you look any better when your shirt comes off. If you don't appear desirable, you usually get show down before you start. Or you think the attraction and chemistry is there, but once you leave, you are forgotten. Out of sight, out of mind. Women control the sex, dating, and love markets, and they know this too damn well. It's even worse they have both the sexual harassment and rape cards as trump defenses. They know could have a man anytime they want, they just act like they can't. They're really waiting for Mr. Right, complete with the muscles, money, mansion, moviestar status, and massive kok. But he hardly exists, so they have to settle. If you ask a bunch of guys here if they can get a woman anytime they want, they may say yes, but in reality, it's a no. Getting women these days is easier said than done, and you still have to be chosen. Game can help, but you need more than that to stay in a woman's mind for her to be truly interested in you.

15. Online dating is only for women who can't find a man.
Reality check, women can easily find a man, they usually just want that attention fix online because they know they'll get bombarded with lots of messages. If you see a pretty woman online, how often do you think guys hit on her? How many pick up lines has she heard in the last week? Quite a lot huh? She's always got options motherf**ker!

16. Women are afraid of rejection more than men.
Women falsely believe this sh*t. It amazes me that men believe this bullsh*t! Read the above paragraph. Considering that women have a phonebook of men who will willingly hook up with them within seconds, why would rejection hurt them? Oh yeah, it hurts most when the guy is loaded with good looks, status, money, and alpha male qualities. Even then, they can quickly recover.

Reality is here indeed, and I know there's more than this!
 

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Alex DeLarge said:
The girls that are in my "league" even think they can do way better than they can. But in reality that sexy "Mr. Right" just got drunk and horny one night, railed them, and ditched them.. Then they just wait for him to come back around. What a crock of sh1t.. Get over yourself.
haha this is true but it works both ways. ive def lucked out with a dime before and thought i was more way pimpin than i really was.
 

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HGKnights said:
I agree with most of this, I disagree with the lying statement, unless you are just trying to get a one night stand.

Usually lies come back to bite you in the ass, at least from my experience.
That all depends on the quality of the lie. Lies come back to bite you in the ass when they suck, or you suck and are unable to keep them straight. The best lies are the slightly changing real facts with small upgrades. If you say you work for NASA but really work for Burger King, yeah, Helen Keller would nail you and it would bite you in the ass.

If you slightly modify something, you'll be fine unless shes a crazy who digs too much.
 

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nismo-4 said:
Cougars and milfs have a whole lot more power now that the media keeps addressing this topic. These women are no easier than younger women, if not harder, because there are a lot of guys who talk to them. It boosts their ego, but they still have to choose you. If they address the age difference, call it what you want, comeback how you want, they're rejecting you. Most men think they're easier. No they're f**kin' not.
Interesting.

They've always been easier for me.
 

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Deep Dish said:
Women only have the power which men give them. While the power dynamics are shifted in favor of women while in their teens and twenties, the power shifts in favor of men in their thirties. Fame and fortune certainly help, as being the highest value man in a room is relative to the conditions of your environment, but having game gives a decisive advantage over looks. The alpha dynamic is amoral and is irrespective of wealth; an alpha male can be a CEO or ex-convict—chicks dig axe murderers. A man achieves a good amount of power by being selective in himself, by setting the terms of his investing and commitment. Women's currency is sex, men's currency is attention—most men give away their power by too easily giving attention, but the locus of control is internal, not external. In other words, if you control yourself you can control the püssy.A 73 year old grandmother doesn't have options. Women have qualitatively declining options as they age. Yes, old women may still have men hit on them but the men are undesirable to them, eventually to the ghastly bottom of the barrel, and any high value man would only hump & dump her. (A common cougar lament is how they puke at the thought of the available stock of men.) By the time a woman is a cougar, her power to snag a high value male has dwindled to the point that she must drop her standards for a beta male or fall in love with cats, even more true for the 73 year old grandmother whose only achievable standard is "Do you have a pulse?"I agree they are not as easy as one may initially think, and there may be a common mistake amongst guys to think that just because a chick is above 30 that they don't need game, but cougars do become easier with age, particularly 35. To quote Roissy:Moving along,It's better to be single than be in a rocky relationship.A man who needs a woman in his life is the manipulated man. It's the man who can live perfectly happily in solitude who does the best with women, because there is no attachment to the outcome. Calling a man gay is actually a common tactic of women, because they find it inconceivable how a man who they want would not choose to be with her. "Are you single?" "Well, are you gay?" No other possibility crosses their mind.


This post is so money Deep Dish! I was about to jump in here and tell Nismo about the points I disagreed with; but you hit it right on the head perfectly.

Great post, reps bro!





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Pimp-sicle said:
This post is so money Deep Dish! I was about to jump in here and tell Nismo about the points I disagreed with; but you hit it right on the head perfectly.

Great post, reps bro!





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I'm on board with you.

Nismo is a great poster, but I think he's viewing men WAY too negatively. This power that he attributes to women only exists when we give them that power.

For the guys on Sosuave who are down in the dumps and depressed about their dating life, of course Nismo's perspective is going to ring true. But I'm (fairly) good with women, and I just don't see the game as being tipped that heavily in women's favor.

Sometimes I'm rejected, sometimes I'm the one rejecting the women. It's not a big deal...it's just part of the game. I never felt oppressed by women, because I'm willing to walk away from any particular woman at any time and continue doing great things in my life.
 

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Deep Dish is spittin some good ism.

Some of what you say nismo is correct but some is false as well.

Woman control the dating game when the man allows her too. The reason the dating game is so messed up is because of all these chumps in the world bowing down to girls just to get some. These chumps worship the poonani and it's sickening. Pu$$y is entertainment for me, I'd be just as happy playing 2k12. What I focus on is making sure that my future is set when I graduate school. Making sure I will have a good job and make good money. The girls will come naturally. When I go out I holla at girls but I don't go out of my way to do it and it doesn't interfere with my life.

This is the mentality that males need to have. I got rejected by this 9 yesterday. I was kinda bummed about it thinking about what I did wrong. Then I said f*ck it.... at least I didn't bow down to this girl like most other guys did. I never put her on a pedestal and never complimented her. I might got rejected but I know she knows I'm different from most guys.

If you can't be happy alone you won't be happy with someone else.
 

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Jariel said:
Amen to that. I've just had that happen to me. Had the perfect date, then the next day I slipped up on a lie/exaggeration about my profession and it has ruined everything.

I'm also learning that by being myself and being genuine I'm getting way further and having much better dates than when I'm trying to be someone I'm not or thinking strategy. So I also disagree with the statement that being yourself doesn't cut it. The key is to be yourself, but to push yourself to become the best you can be.
Jariel, not to hijack the thread, but did you mention that lie in the thread about that girl? I don't remember it.
 

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I can understand the Judge's points, although he might be stating them more absolutely than necessary.

It is very true that many guys are pursuing women who are out of their league. A thin women is NOT going to be initially attracted to a slightly overweight man. A woman with a sense of style is NOT going to be initially attracted to a slob or to a guy who shows that he has no sense of style. Notice I say initially attracted.

Game can always trump looks, but the problem is initial attraction. You can't even get into the game to begin with unless you show that you posess self respect.

I repeat: Self-respect in a man is what women are looking for.

That means she will accept your approach if you show externally that you have a sense of style, neatness and cleanliness. You do not have to be blessed with innate, natural good looks. If she sees that you have a sense of how you present yourself to the world, the looks barrier is largely mitigated and you can get your game on.

A nice hair style, stylish clothing, clean/polished shoes telegraph to her that you are a man who is in command of his life and who posesses self-respect. As an aside, let me tell you something... after your face the very first thing she will look at is your shoes. Bad shoes ROUTINELY kill chances with women. Women are shoe-obsessed, and nice clean shoes cover a multitude of sins.

For men, looks = overall shape, boobs, legs, ass, femininity, etc. For women, looks = Self-Respect, body language to a degree, and command over life. She is interested in one thing, when you distill it down. Power. A man who has command and power over his life, as evidenced by his bearing and "armour" (his clothing, for you slower ones), is invariably going to be very "sexy" to her. At the very least, she will be intrigued by such a man, in spite of his looks. "Intrigued" is the only green light we need to start spitting game.

A woman will only give herself over (and feel good about it) to a man who she perceives as more valuable than herself. Why allow her quick, initial filter take you out of the game before it even starts? If you're not good-looking, do the best with what you have and they WILL take notice. Show her that you're a force to be reckoned with. Show her that you respect yourself first, above all others.
 

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nismo-4 said:
4. Be patient and the right girl will come along.
You have a better chance of winning the damn Powerball Lottery!
That's why you have to be patient :)

The reason this saying is so common is because there is some truth to it. It's not that you should be passive about it (waiting for someone to come along). It's just that you're unlikely to find a girl that is a good match for you after only a few cold approaches in bars. Sometimes it can take years before you run into a relationship worthy girl who meets your needs.
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
This is a great point. By being lazy/AFC I have been at the mercy of the type of women that "come along". Aggressive women are usually crazy and certainly lower value than you. I mean real aggression, not just passive flirting. If a women is aggressive towards you and she is hot then you know she is giving up points in other areas because otherwise she would want you to chase her. The women that have chased me have been hot low quality trash or women below me in looks(sometimes WAY below-buzzkill!).


Hard truth throughout, only disagree with the anti-hard working screed.
I QFT'd this one. My case has been this for the most part, with the occasional cute girl when I least expect it.

I must say, I'm not angry at anybody's views here. We're all entitled to them. Some of these (not just from this thread) I actually like. The game is veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery deep. Stay on your toes.

I like the last sentence from Zekko, Atom Smasher, and Iceberg.

I've got a lot to learn and I know I ain't perfect.
 
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