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All rise! Court is now in session. The honorable Judge Nismo-4 presiding. You may be seated.

I have heard so much bullsh*t about meeting women. Without further ado, let's get started.

First of all, women control the dating game. Men can comparably do it when they've got fame, fortune, and great looks. Or at least a combination of these.

Second, the what this PUA sh*t did was not only make authors a lot of money off of desperate and average men, but also give the average man a free pass to bother women out of their league.

As we get older, we start to want a woman in our lives. Not every man can get one. What most guys see is that there aren't a lot of women available, and if there is a woman available, she's a tease or AW waiting for Mr. Right. And there's competition for every woman. Even a woman who's 73 has options! Every man needs love, and most would be happy and appreciative if they just got shacked up with ONE woman. Men these days know damn well that ANY love is better than NO love. And women are a lot tougher to get because they know that fact. And it gets worse if her friends have something to say about you if you're not attractive enough. Every weekend, women review all of their offers and the looks of the person who made the respective offer. Look out if there's a NBA player in the mix!

Cougars and milfs have a whole lot more power now that the media keeps addressing this topic. These women are no easier than younger women, if not harder, because there are a lot of guys who talk to them. It boosts their ego, but they still have to choose you. If they address the age difference, call it what you want, comeback how you want, they're rejecting you. Most men think they're easier. No they're f**kin' not.

Let me address the club scene here too. Your best bet is to be seen with an attractive woman or an exotic car with a 6 figure price tag if you're going solo. (see #9 below) A wingman can be trouble. If your wingman is uglier than you, he'll get shot down quickly and drag you down with him. Conversely, if he's better looking than you, he'll more than likely catch all your targets and leave you with the worst or nothing at all. If you have no wingman, wingwoman, or high-end car to be seen getting out of, the only thing you can do is rely on luck by dancing and approaching. Women here don't care about your future, they care about the now.

Day Game is tricky too and is very luck based. You'll need some form of good looks to attract these women here. Which is why I'm working out more. I'd go under the knife if I were rich, but I'm presently not.

Here's some other lines I've heard, which is ruled bullsh*t. My takes on all of these are in red to make things easier for your eyes.

1. There's somebody for everybody.
No there isn't. This is said by people who are already in relationships in an attempt to spare your ego. The fact remains that you're not in a relationship, you're less desirable, and you're being made fun of on a slick.

2. I don't need a woman in my life.
Said the guy who's either a dumbass, delusional, or gay. Usually the first two. This is better said as "I can't get a woman." Every man needs female companionship. Even if you're like me, working on making your first million, you'll want a woman to love you and sex you. Family doesn't count here. No imaginary girl/ blow up doll can substitute a woman's love.

3. Love comes to those who wait.
Bullsh*t to the tenth power! This is said by guys who want a woman to come to them because they often times know that they otherwise can't get one. Also spoken by normal guys who want it to sound like they don't know how their relationship started with the woman they're with, but they know goddamn well the woman didn't fall in their lap. It's a miracle to these men. Go after love and grab it by the f**kin' horn!

4. Be patient and the right girl will come along.
You have a better chance of winning the damn Powerball Lottery! This is synonymous with #1 for the most part. Most girls that do come along are likely to feign interest, are attention wh0res, or they're after your money. There's the occasional good girl, but that's a needle in a haystack.

5. I've got an awesome personality and game. I just can't get a girl to like me.
Said the unattractive/ boring man. Women like men for their looks and resources. Resources is on the provider level and looks is on the lover level. Personality IS ONLY USED TO KEEP A GIRL! But you have to pique her interest. If you can't do that, personality is completely useless. Game is used to bring the attraction level up, provided the woman allows you to talk to her. If she doesn't allow you around her or approach you, game is useless.

6. I'll meet a girl when the time is right.
Yeah right. When is the time ever f**kin' right? There's no perfect time. Live in the now. You need to take action on your love life asap. Relationships and dates are formed around the clock around different things. Not all of them are real. You ain't gettin' any younger.

7. You shouldn't date a woman with exes.
Super bullsh*t usually spoken by delusional women who want to give good advice but know the harsh reality that they can't. If you want to tell this to a man, you might as well tell him "Don't date."


8. There's no time to meet a girl. I'll just keep working and meet one when I get rich or get a lot of money.
Commonly spoken by guys who work a lot and are willing to work even more because they can't date, get laid, or get in a relationship. Don't you know that most women these days are turned off by working men trying to come up? I worked two jobs during college and women had no care/ interest for me. If you don't have the time to love a woman, a woman never has any problem finding a man who will. She won't wait until you're rich, especially if it looks light years away. Women worry about what you have in the present. Not the future. The working man who made it is the most desirable. Besides, what if you don't make your first million? What if you die before then?

9. There are more women than men in this city.
Said the woman who can't keep a man in your city or the man who's rich and very handsome. Reality check, there are more men than women in your locale (especially in the U.S.), and a lot of them have read PUA guides, and if they don't, they've Googled something about how to attract women or something similar. Reality check #2. Women choose who they want, and the only time they feel rejected is if the man is attractive physically or financially. Otherwise, all women have to do is accept you or reject you. BTW When women complain about not being able to find a good man, she can't get a man who's handsome with a lot of money, as those men always have access to women the average man does not SEE.

10. I can't find a woman to love me for who I am.
Sorry, but being yourself usually doesn't cut it. The value of a woman has skyrocketed. Same product, higher price. Women always play games. If you have to rent a Rolls Royce to up your value, then do it. Sometimes you have to play games too. Acting distant and aloof around women is usually ineffective. Especially if you're average. I've seen average guys go out with their cousins, sisters, and even their mother! Being seen with one or more attractive women always helps (Pre-selection), and these guys who do it apparently have a brain.

Most of the time, you have to lie to get what you want. I had to lie (and still do) to older women by saying I'm 43 to get a chance with them, and it works! Women won't stop playing games. Women lie. You should too if it benefits you and gives you a better chance. The game is tougher and gets harder by the day.
 

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Awesome post. I definitely feel as though looks play way more of a roll than the PUA community thinks. It's money and handsomeness.

Sucks not having supermodel looks haha.. The girls that are in my "league" even think they can do way better than they can. But in reality that sexy "Mr. Right" just got drunk and horny one night, railed them, and ditched them.. Then they just wait for him to come back around. What a crock of sh1t.. Get over yourself.
 

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Awesome post. A course in reality.

nismo-4 said:
All rise! Court is now in session. The honorable Judge Nismo-4 presiding. You may be seated.

I have heard so much bullsh*t about meeting women. Without further ado, let's get started.

First of all, women control the dating game. Men can comparably do it when they've got fame, fortune, and great looks. Or at least a combination of these.

Second, the what this PUA sh*t did was not only make authors a lot of money off of desperate and average men, but also give the average man a free pass to bother women out of their league.

As we get older, we start to want a woman in our lives. Not every man can get one.

Exactly.

What most guys see is that there aren't a lot of women available, and if there is a woman available, she's a tease or AW waiting for Mr. Right. And there's competition for every woman. Even a woman who's 73 has options! Every man needs love, and most would be happy and appreciative if they just got shacked up with ONE woman. Men these days know damn well that ANY love is better than NO love. And women are a lot tougher to get because they know that fact. And it gets worse if her friends have something to say about you if you're not attractive enough. Every weekend, women review all of their offers and the looks of the person who made the respective offer. Look out if there's a NBA player in the mix!

Spot on.

Cougars and milfs have a whole lot more power now that the media keeps addressing this topic. These women are no easier than younger women, if not harder, because there are a lot of guys who talk to them. It boosts their ego, but they still have to choose you. If they address the age difference, call it what you want, comeback how you want, they're rejecting you. Most men think they're easier. No they're f**kin' not.

Yep.

Let me address the club scene here too. Your best bet is to be seen with an attractive woman or an exotic car with a 6 figure price tag if you're going solo. (see #9 below) A wingman can be trouble. If your wingman is uglier than you, he'll get shot down quickly and drag you down with him. Conversely, if he's better looking than you, he'll more than likely catch all your targets and leave you with the worst or nothing at all. If you have no wingman, wingwoman, or high-end car to be seen getting out of, the only thing you can do is rely on luck by dancing and approaching. Women here don't care about your future, they care about the now.

That's exactly my experience.

Day Game is tricky too and is very luck based. You'll need some form of good looks to attract these women here. Which is why I'm working out more. I'd go under the knife if I were rich, but I'm presently not.

No question.

Here's some other lines I've heard, which is ruled bullsh*t. My takes on all of these are in red to make things easier for your eyes.

1. There's somebody for everybody.
No there isn't. This is said by people who are already in relationships in an attempt to spare your ego. The fact remains that you're not in a relationship, you're less desirable, and you're being made fun of on a slick.

Exactly. Tell this to the 30somethings, 40somethings, and even a few 50something male virgins out there.

2. I don't need a woman in my life.
Said the guy who's either a dumbass, delusional, or gay. Usually the first two. This is better said as "I can't get a woman." Every man needs female companionship. Even if you're like me, working on making your first million, you'll want a woman to love you and sex you. Family doesn't count here. No imaginary girl/ blow up doll can substitute a woman's love.

Yep.

3. Love comes to those who wait.
Bullsh*t to the tenth power! This is said by guys who want a woman to come to them because they often times know that they otherwise can't get one. Also spoken by normal guys who want it to sound like they don't know how their relationship started with the woman they're with, but they know goddamn well the woman didn't fall in their lap. It's a miracle to these men. Go after love and grab it by the f**kin' horn!

Yep, she ain't gonna knock on your door.

4. Be patient and the right girl will come along.
You have a better chance of winning the damn Powerball Lottery! This is synonymous with #1 for the most part. Most girls that do come along are likely to feign interest, are attention wh0res, or they're after your money. There's the occasional good girl, but that's a needle in a haystack.

Cold approaching her (and not being a hot guy) makes you a creeper. You can't meet her at work because you'll get in trouble. Online dating has fierce competition. How exactly WOULD she come along anyway? She won't.

5. I've got an awesome personality and game. I just can't get a girl to like me.
Said the unattractive/ boring man. Women like men for their looks and resources. Resources is on the provider level and looks is on the lover level. Personality IS ONLY USED TO KEEP A GIRL! But you have to pique her interest. If you can't do that, personality is completely useless. Game is used to bring the attraction level up, provided the woman allows you to talk to her. If she doesn't allow you around her or approach you, game is useless.

Exactly. Game allows you to leverage the attraction that is already there. You can't create attraction.

6. I'll meet a girl when the time is right.
Yeah right. When is the time ever f**kin' right? There's no perfect time. Live in the now. You need to take action on your love life asap. Relationships and dates are formed around the clock around different things. Not all of them are real. You ain't gettin' any younger.

A man's value is supposed to INCREASE with age according to SS wisdom. At 70, I should be getting twice as many chicks as I get at 35 lol. I have all the time in the world lol. Ok not really. The Judge is again correct. The time to act is now.

7. You shouldn't date a woman with exes.
Super bullsh*t usually spoken by delusional women who want to give good advice but know the harsh reality that they can't. If you want to tell this to a man, you might as well tell him "Don't date."


Yep.

8. There's no time to meet a girl. I'll just keep working and meet one when I get rich or get a lot of money.
Commonly spoken by guys who work a lot and are willing to work even more because they can't date, get laid, or get in a relationship. Don't you know that most women these days are turned off by working men trying to come up? I worked two jobs during college and women had no care/ interest for me. If you don't have the time to love a woman, a woman never has any problem finding a man who will. She won't wait until you're rich, especially if it looks light years away. Women worry about what you have in the present. Not the future. The working man who made it is the most desirable. Besides, what if you don't make your first million? What if you die before then?

Exactly. Ambition is nice, but she wants the money NOW.

9. There are more women than men in this city.
Said the woman who can't keep a man in your city or the man who's rich and very handsome. Reality check, there are more men than women in your locale (especially in the U.S.), and a lot of them have read PUA guides, and if they don't, they've Googled something about how to attract women or something similar. Reality check #2. Women choose who they want, and the only time they feel rejected is if the man is attractive physically or financially. Otherwise, all women have to do is accept you or reject you. BTW When women complain about not being able to find a good man, she can't get a man who's handsome with a lot of money, as those men always have access to women the average man does not SEE.

Knowing how picky women are today, even if they DID outnumber men (which they probably don't), I don't think it would make it much easier. They have control of the market and can still keep the price artificially high.


10. I can't find a woman to love me for who I am.
Sorry, but being yourself usually doesn't cut it. The value of a woman has skyrocketed. Same product, higher price. Women always play games. If you have to rent a Rolls Royce to up your value, then do it. Sometimes you have to play games too. Acting distant and aloof around women is usually ineffective. Especially if you're average. I've seen average guys go out with their cousins, sisters, and even their mother! Being seen with one or more attractive women always helps (Pre-selection), and these guys who do it apparently have a brain.

But she'll tell you never to change. You're a great guy. You're just not for her. But some girl in the future will appreciate you lol.

Most of the time, you have to lie to get what you want. I had to lie (and still do) to older women by saying I'm 43 to get a chance with them, and it works! Women won't stop playing games. Women lie. You should too if it benefits you and gives you a better chance. The game is tougher and gets harder by the day.
If I didn't lie about my age, I would have been celibate for the past four or five years.
 

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Alex DeLarge said:
Awesome post. I definitely feel as though looks play way more of a roll than the PUA community thinks. It's money and handsomeness.

Sucks not having supermodel looks haha.. The girls that are in my "league" even think they can do way better than they can. But in reality that sexy "Mr. Right" just got drunk and horny one night, railed them, and ditched them.. Then they just wait for him to come back around. What a crock of sh1t.. Get over yourself.
Exactly. It's easier for a chick to b*ng someone out of her league than for a guy. She might not get the relationship she wants, but at least she gets to F the hot guy.
 

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Looks are too subjective. You won't fail if you're not hot or gorgeous. So long as you take care of your body and appearance, and present yourself well, you have as much of a chance to make an impression as anyone else.

The exception is girls who only care about looks, and require you to be gorgeous. Then, you're pretty much screwed. I haven't seen many that do, though. And I used to associate with a lot of shallow girls. They'd still date not-so attractive guys, but they had nice clothes, good style, kept in shape, etc.
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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floydb25 said:
Looks are too subjective. You won't fail if you're not hot or gorgeous. So long as you take care of your body and appearance, and present yourself well, you have as much of a chance to make an impression as anyone else.

The exception is girls who only care about looks, and require you to be gorgeous. Then, you're pretty much screwed. I haven't seen many that do, though. And I used to associate with a lot of shallow girls. They'd still date not-so attractive guys, but they had nice clothes, good style, kept in shape, etc.
This is why I'm working out. Women take you for face value first. Then they find out what's on the inside. Most women these days are very shallow.
 

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I agree with most of this, I disagree with the lying statement, unless you are just trying to get a one night stand.

Usually lies come back to bite you in the ass, at least from my experience.
 

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Sorry Nismo, you are dead wrong. You almost make picking women as an impossible task. The reality is, I have short, ugly friends with a bad job, who have had plenty of girlfriends, not the best looking ones though.

If you want the best girls, you have to be in the top, but in general, to have an average girl you just need to be average.

The frustration of most guys here, is that they are probably trying to get girls that are super hot, and way out of their league..
 

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Or you can simply stop wasting money in clubs and venues, buy an airplane ticket and fly to decent places where you can get more love in two weeks than in a lifetime at home.

Most of you average guys would have no problem to get a good looking slim girl in Ukraine, a trust me an annoying abnoxious b1tch is not the archetype of woman, you'll be surprised when treated with respect.

Of course going out of your place and out of your comfort zone is risky but hey, are you satisfied there?
 

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HGKnights said:
I agree with most of this, I disagree with the lying statement, unless you are just trying to get a one night stand.

Usually lies come back to bite you in the ass, at least from my experience.
Understood. I'm referring to ONS'. For a relationship, yes, you should definitely tell the truth.
 

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this post has reminded me that since I'm not getting any regular *****, even though I've read and internalized most of the theory it doesn't mean I'm going to get an LTR with a hot babe any time soon unless I get a license, go to the gym and maybe even move out.
 

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Chickfight said:
This is really more like a course in negativity.
or more like honest reality....and makes you consider if you are in this situation do something to change that reality.
 

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You are in no position to give advice or to pass judgement. You hate yourself and your best result is to get a 63 year old to "drink your jizz." That is, after she played hard to get with you. You are truly pathetic.

nismo-4 said:
All rise! Court is now in session. The honorable Judge Nismo-4 presiding. You may be seated.

I have heard so much bullsh*t about meeting women. Without further ado, let's get started.

First of all, women control the dating game. Men can comparably do it when they've got fame, fortune, and great looks. Or at least a combination of these.

Second, the what this PUA sh*t did was not only make authors a lot of money off of desperate and average men, but also give the average man a free pass to bother women out of their league.

As we get older, we start to want a woman in our lives. Not every man can get one. What most guys see is that there aren't a lot of women available, and if there is a woman available, she's a tease or AW waiting for Mr. Right. And there's competition for every woman. Even a woman who's 73 has options! Every man needs love, and most would be happy and appreciative if they just got shacked up with ONE woman. Men these days know damn well that ANY love is better than NO love. And women are a lot tougher to get because they know that fact. And it gets worse if her friends have something to say about you if you're not attractive enough. Every weekend, women review all of their offers and the looks of the person who made the respective offer. Look out if there's a NBA player in the mix!

Cougars and milfs have a whole lot more power now that the media keeps addressing this topic. These women are no easier than younger women, if not harder, because there are a lot of guys who talk to them. It boosts their ego, but they still have to choose you. If they address the age difference, call it what you want, comeback how you want, they're rejecting you. Most men think they're easier. No they're f**kin' not.

Let me address the club scene here too. Your best bet is to be seen with an attractive woman or an exotic car with a 6 figure price tag if you're going solo. (see #9 below) A wingman can be trouble. If your wingman is uglier than you, he'll get shot down quickly and drag you down with him. Conversely, if he's better looking than you, he'll more than likely catch all your targets and leave you with the worst or nothing at all. If you have no wingman, wingwoman, or high-end car to be seen getting out of, the only thing you can do is rely on luck by dancing and approaching. Women here don't care about your future, they care about the now.

Day Game is tricky too and is very luck based. You'll need some form of good looks to attract these women here. Which is why I'm working out more. I'd go under the knife if I were rich, but I'm presently not.

Here's some other lines I've heard, which is ruled bullsh*t. My takes on all of these are in red to make things easier for your eyes.

1. There's somebody for everybody.
No there isn't. This is said by people who are already in relationships in an attempt to spare your ego. The fact remains that you're not in a relationship, you're less desirable, and you're being made fun of on a slick.

2. I don't need a woman in my life.
Said the guy who's either a dumbass, delusional, or gay. Usually the first two. This is better said as "I can't get a woman." Every man needs female companionship. Even if you're like me, working on making your first million, you'll want a woman to love you and sex you. Family doesn't count here. No imaginary girl/ blow up doll can substitute a woman's love.

3. Love comes to those who wait.
Bullsh*t to the tenth power! This is said by guys who want a woman to come to them because they often times know that they otherwise can't get one. Also spoken by normal guys who want it to sound like they don't know how their relationship started with the woman they're with, but they know goddamn well the woman didn't fall in their lap. It's a miracle to these men. Go after love and grab it by the f**kin' horn!

4. Be patient and the right girl will come along.
You have a better chance of winning the damn Powerball Lottery! This is synonymous with #1 for the most part. Most girls that do come along are likely to feign interest, are attention wh0res, or they're after your money. There's the occasional good girl, but that's a needle in a haystack.

5. I've got an awesome personality and game. I just can't get a girl to like me.
Said the unattractive/ boring man. Women like men for their looks and resources. Resources is on the provider level and looks is on the lover level. Personality IS ONLY USED TO KEEP A GIRL! But you have to pique her interest. If you can't do that, personality is completely useless. Game is used to bring the attraction level up, provided the woman allows you to talk to her. If she doesn't allow you around her or approach you, game is useless.

6. I'll meet a girl when the time is right.
Yeah right. When is the time ever f**kin' right? There's no perfect time. Live in the now. You need to take action on your love life asap. Relationships and dates are formed around the clock around different things. Not all of them are real. You ain't gettin' any younger.

7. You shouldn't date a woman with exes.
Super bullsh*t usually spoken by delusional women who want to give good advice but know the harsh reality that they can't. If you want to tell this to a man, you might as well tell him "Don't date."


8. There's no time to meet a girl. I'll just keep working and meet one when I get rich or get a lot of money.
Commonly spoken by guys who work a lot and are willing to work even more because they can't date, get laid, or get in a relationship. Don't you know that most women these days are turned off by working men trying to come up? I worked two jobs during college and women had no care/ interest for me. If you don't have the time to love a woman, a woman never has any problem finding a man who will. She won't wait until you're rich, especially if it looks light years away. Women worry about what you have in the present. Not the future. The working man who made it is the most desirable. Besides, what if you don't make your first million? What if you die before then?

9. There are more women than men in this city.
Said the woman who can't keep a man in your city or the man who's rich and very handsome. Reality check, there are more men than women in your locale (especially in the U.S.), and a lot of them have read PUA guides, and if they don't, they've Googled something about how to attract women or something similar. Reality check #2. Women choose who they want, and the only time they feel rejected is if the man is attractive physically or financially. Otherwise, all women have to do is accept you or reject you. BTW When women complain about not being able to find a good man, she can't get a man who's handsome with a lot of money, as those men always have access to women the average man does not SEE.

10. I can't find a woman to love me for who I am.
Sorry, but being yourself usually doesn't cut it. The value of a woman has skyrocketed. Same product, higher price. Women always play games. If you have to rent a Rolls Royce to up your value, then do it. Sometimes you have to play games too. Acting distant and aloof around women is usually ineffective. Especially if you're average. I've seen average guys go out with their cousins, sisters, and even their mother! Being seen with one or more attractive women always helps (Pre-selection), and these guys who do it apparently have a brain.

Most of the time, you have to lie to get what you want. I had to lie (and still do) to older women by saying I'm 43 to get a chance with them, and it works! Women won't stop playing games. Women lie. You should too if it benefits you and gives you a better chance. The game is tougher and gets harder by the day.
 

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Side note, do we need to quote the whole book of a post, especially when we are still on page one? This whole thread is one long quote. Just say'n!
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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aura said:
You are in no position to give advice or to pass judgement. You hate yourself and your best result is to get a 63 year old to "drink your jizz." That is, after she played hard to get with you. You are truly pathetic.
Aura, you dumb bastard, if you have something to say then say it. Also, stop quoting the entire post. We get it, we read it.
 

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I agree with most of this, I disagree with the lying statement, unless you are just trying to get a one night stand.

Usually lies come back to bite you in the ass, at least from my experience.
Amen to that. I've just had that happen to me. Had the perfect date, then the next day I slipped up on a lie/exaggeration about my profession and it has ruined everything.

I'm also learning that by being myself and being genuine I'm getting way further and having much better dates than when I'm trying to be someone I'm not or thinking strategy. So I also disagree with the statement that being yourself doesn't cut it. The key is to be yourself, but to push yourself to become the best you can be.
 

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This post is very full of fail. Judge nismo is being demoted to court security guard.

1. I KNOW guys that aren't all that great looking that hook up with hotties. They are fun and have a high level of self esteem

2. Ummmmm girls in clubs have NO idea what you drive and if they are coming home with you and will soon find out, it will be a nice bonus, not everything

3. Negativity has been the #1 game killer I've seen "in the field" hence why security guard nismo has the above opinions. Be careful of allowing your limiting beliefs become other peoples

4. Being in shape is a great thing, but do it for you...in fact do all the things in your life FOR YOU and you will build said self esteem naturally and get asssssss (and not grandma ass, normal girl ass)

5. I think a lot of the common sayings about love etc. are just misinterpreted (they make a lot of sense in womens worlds of emotions and easy c@ck but lack of love and connection)...aka:

Love comes to those who wait (wait to have SEX) - I know whenever I move too fast it can very likely spoil things, waiting actually does build a stronger bond if that's what you are looking for

Just be yourself - (dude be normal and stop acting like you are someone you aren't. If your cool with who you are and they can tell your sincere, which they can she can start trusting you right away and you start building comfort right away)

Can't find a woman to love me for who I am - Most guys I know who think like this and say this stuff don't have a clue who they are and act like someone else (people pleaser nice / weak guys with no balls or sexuality) when they meet or interact with women. There is honesty and HONESTY...being really real]


Day game isn't luck based, you do well when you feel good and are relaxed...and you have self esteem. Find what makes you feel good and relaxed. I do amazing with day game when I'm feeling good...that's the only common denominator. Have also worked with other guys and it's the same for them.


The wingman thing shows the crowd you hang out with, uglier / better looking isn't nearly as important as if they are cool, social, happy people.


Dude, it's obvious you're going through a rough spell... I've had them too, they pass. Don't let these become ingrained beliefs for you because all it will do is make you unhappy and alone. Take a break from pickup... no reading anything about it or approaching anyone for at LEAST a solid month...and I might let you be a judge again...
 

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Nismo, if you think looks (aside from money) are everything, then why are you complaining? Shouldn't you be out there getting girls in your league? If you think looks are all that matter then stop going for girls that are out of your league, and stop reading this website.

This website is to help guys improve their dating life and luck with women. I have no idea why someone who is such a firm believer in looks even uses this site.

And your opinion is based on experience. You obviously haven't seen 5/10 guys pulling 9/10s, and groups of girls following around a 5 guy. I have. The thing is, they are exuberant, witty, and fun to be around. I have been in a bar with one of them multiple times in my AFC days where not a single girl talked to me, but hordes of them were talking to him...and I am better looking, taller, have a deeper voice, and a six pack. He is flabby and wears glasses.

If you have the right personality you can draw them in. It is well known that girls care less about looks than guys do.
 
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nismo-4:
First of all, women control the dating game. Men can comparably do it when they've got fame, fortune, and great looks. Or at least a combination of these.
Women only have the power which men give them. While the power dynamics are shifted in favor of women while in their teens and twenties, the power shifts in favor of men in their thirties. Fame and fortune certainly help, as being the highest value man in a room is relative to the conditions of your environment, but having game gives a decisive advantage over looks. The alpha dynamic is amoral and is irrespective of wealth; an alpha male can be a CEO or ex-convict—chicks dig axe murderers. A man achieves a good amount of power by being selective in himself, by setting the terms of his investing and commitment. Women's currency is sex, men's currency is attention—most men give away their power by too easily giving attention, but the locus of control is internal, not external. In other words, if you control yourself you can control the püssy.
Even a woman who's 73 has options!
A 73 year old grandmother doesn't have options. Women have qualitatively declining options as they age. Yes, old women may still have men hit on them but the men are undesirable to them, eventually to the ghastly bottom of the barrel, and any high value man would only hump & dump her. (A common cougar lament is how they puke at the thought of the available stock of men.) By the time a woman is a cougar, her power to snag a high value male has dwindled to the point that she must drop her standards for a beta male or fall in love with cats, even more true for the 73 year old grandmother whose only achievable standard is "Do you have a pulse?"
Cougars and milfs have a whole lot more power now that the media keeps addressing this topic. These women are no easier than younger women, if not harder, because there are a lot of guys who talk to them. It boosts their ego, but they still have to choose you. If they address the age difference, call it what you want, comeback how you want, they're rejecting you. Most men think they're easier. No they're f**kin' not.
I agree they are not as easy as one may initially think, and there may be a common mistake amongst guys to think that just because a chick is above 30 that they don't need game, but cougars do become easier with age, particularly 35. To quote Roissy:
28 to 30 year olds
Finally, the female ego suffers chinks in its armor. She will try hard to cover these cracks, but they’ll creep out here and there. 30 is a huge and depressing milestone for women, but 29 is an even more depressing birthday. It is the “last hurrah”, so to speak, and the number taunts her daily with reminders of her impending obsolescence. A single girl who was dumped by her boyfriend and who has just turned 29 may be the easiest girl in the world to lay. You will still need to game her, but the path to sex will be exhilaratingly fast and furious.

28-30 year olds are a mixed bunch. Some are riding a wave of career and social success that has nowhere to go but down, and their bloated egos reflect that. Others, less conventionally successful, are emotionally frazzled by the disappearing act of their heady youth and by the intractability of their singledom. You will find some of the ****iest, and sweetest, girls in this age range.

Same rules as the ones for 23-27 year olds apply to 28-30 year olds, with the exception that negging should be tailored to the life success as well as the looks of the girl you are gaming. A 30 year old businesswoman is often harder to game than a 20 year old hipster. She will need subtle reminders that her beauty isn’t what it once was.

31 to 34 year olds
In some ways, women in the 31-34 age range are the toughest broads to game. (By “toughest”, it is meant “most time consuming”.) It’s counterintuitive, yes, but there are factors at work besides her declining beauty which mitigate against the easy, quick lay. For one, it is obviously harder to meet single 31-34 year old women than it is to meet single younger women. Marriage is still a püssy-limiting force to contend with for the inveterate womanizer, but Chateau apprentices are hard at work battling the scourge of mating market disturbances caused by the grinding and churning of the marriage machine.

But the bigger reason 31-34 year olds are harder to game than any other age group of women has to do with the wicked nexus of entitlement and self-preservation that occurs at this age in women. When you combine a disproportionate sense of entitlement fueled by years of feminism, steady paychecks and promotions, and cheerleading gay boyfriends with suspicions of every man’s motives and a terrible anxiety of being used for a sexual fling sans marriage proposal, you get a venom-spitting malevolent demoness on guard against anything she might perceive as less than total subjugation to her craving for incessant flattery and princess pedestaling.

Note that Chateau guests aren’t necessarily complaining. A harder-to-game 33 year old is kind of like getting bumped down from a Honda Civic rental but driving off the lot with the consolation prize of a Ferrari.

Listen to any man who is good with women and they will tell you the same thing: “I have an easier time bedding and dating 23 year olds than I do 33 year olds.”

This defies all logic until you see it through the eyes of the hamster sweating its fluffy ass off in a woman’s brain. (Poor little creature must be pooped out by the mid-30s.) Sure, a 33 year old is not as hot as the 23 year old version of herself, but her ASD is through the roof, as is her self-conception as a hot marriage-worthy commodity. Many older women will tell themselves that their experience, maturity, accomplishments and financial stability mean they should be way more valuable to men seeking wives than some young babe on the take. Of course, they have to tell themselves this because reality isn’t making it easy to believe.

These are the kind of women who have sexual flings with college guys, because they can psychologically box those men in as “purely for fun” adventures. But the men the 31-34 year old women really want are the older, established men who will give them a marriage proposal and a family. This is why it is counterintuitively harder to game the older woman who still retains a vestige of her youthful attractiveness: she wants and expects so much more than the younger woman.

Game required: Strong body language, masculine dominance, sharp suits and shoes, easy on the negs and palm reading, emphasis on the comfort stage, lots of travel stories, disqualify yourself from sex on the first date, vulnerability game, avoidance of the beta provider zone.

In short, if you can present yourself to her as different than the indistinguishable mass of sad schlumpy beta herbs who are her typical choice in available men, then you are guaranteed the lay. Just don’t expect to sleep with her on the first night. She will work hard to make your seduction as difficult and drawn out as possible.

Note: DO NOT SPEAK OF THE YOUNGER WOMEN YOU DATE to an older woman. You will be tempted to do this to demonstrate your higher value, but instead she will withdraw so fast into her ego-preserving turtle shell that no game will redeem the pickup. If the subject comes up, just tell her you’ve “dated many interesting women” and leave it at that.

35 year olds
This age gets a special mention. Why? Because 35 is the year of formal female expiration. (Informal expiration can occur many years later, depending on the woman’s genetic good luck.) At 35, most women are over the hill. An unmarried woman at 35 is officially in crisis mode. Full meltdown will happen within the year if she isn’t hitched in that time. You do not want to be in the vicinity of a woman in full meltdown mode. Full meltdown is accompanied by the acquisition of a second cat, alcoholism, cackling brunches of mimosas with equally pathetic Samantha wannabes, sloppy drunken one night stands with college age men which they will then rationalize as evidence of their enduring beauty, and a laundry list of annoying personality tics and neuroses that would comfortably provide for the retirement plans of ten psychotherapists.

Game required: “Hi”.

36 to 38 year olds
She is at peace with her spinsterhood and her failure in the dating market. She will acquiesce easily and gratefully to sex with very little game, as long as you don’t look like a grandpa. Her expectations are so low, it will be a challenge to disappoint her.

If you are prone to guilt, you might feel it when you inevitably dump a woman in this age range. Don’t. Remind yourself that her past is littered with her insouciant dumping of many beta men before you. You are merely an alpha agent of righteous karma.
Moving along,
nismo-4:
Men these days know damn well that ANY love is better than NO love.
It's better to be single than be in a rocky relationship.
2. I don't need a woman in my life.

Said the guy who's either a dumbass, delusional, or gay. Usually the first two. This is better said as "I can't get a woman." Every man needs female companionship. Even if you're like me, working on making your first million, you'll want a woman to love you and sex you. Family doesn't count here. No imaginary girl/ blow up doll can substitute a woman's love.
A man who needs a woman in his life is the manipulated man. It's the man who can live perfectly happily in solitude who does the best with women, because there is no attachment to the outcome. Calling a man gay is actually a common tactic of women, because they find it inconceivable how a man who they want would not choose to be with her. "Are you single?" "Well, are you gay?" No other possibility crosses their mind.
 

Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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