Come Back With Force

[JEFE]

some time ago I´d cold aproach a hb9 in the university, I manage to get the digits but I only have talked to her for the phone, so she tell me that she was going to be around in certanin date of the month so one day earlier I call and tell her "you know we should get toghether tomorrow" and she tell me "cool I´ll call you" so that morning I was specting the call she don´t, so I call her and she answer so I ask what´s up she give me excuses, that her mother come to pic her up and she has to go, so I tell her "why you dont tell me, you make me wait tooooo long plus I had to call you " I was mad she then tell me "I have a boyfriend, and I don´t want to have problems with him" she never mention a boyfriend before she tells me "I´m going to eat now call me later please" but I tell her "you know, you better think about make me looose so much time and YOU call me, cos I don´t know why should I :moon: " I hang up and she never call again.


Well I was mad :cuss: and unhappy so I take a walk thinking..f**ck why this happened to me?.......f**cking girl..........F**CK!!!!!!!!!!!

THEN I REALICE there are much more women so I start to sargin minutes later I aproach a hb10 beautifull girl that has a good comvo with me she is 28 and sooooooo hot she give me the digits the we sey good bye.

I was walking to return when a hb9 pass me I aproach and bingo: convo, digits, and hug beautiful blonde hair and a hot body

I was happy.


the objetive of the post:

Allways COME BACK WITH FORCE and a right attitude even if it is a ****i day

 

[j0n024]

YAY!!!!! I wish I was a chick magnet like you!!!!!! I am a loser !!! lol good job bro and tell me what happens! Make a FR!

 

[Interceptor]

That's why one should never be so needy, and possessive of a gir you don't even know.

When you let her know how much she has affected you, you have lost all her respect, attraction, and your own personal power.

When a girl gives you her phone number is still means absolutely NOTHING.

She gave you NOTHING.
not any guarantees.

The only thing you got was an "expectation."

Which was all in your mind.

This is why it is better to focus on "meeting her again."
Focus on re establising contact because "you want to continue this with her".

All guys shoudo get used to the idea that phone numbers are nohing.
they are not 'signs".
And they shoudl not be acted upon and looked on as such.

Action is what we want. Indicators of Interest is what we want to see.

A lot of girls give men numbers just so they can leave them alone.
This is why you also CALL the number she gave you right there!
Don't wait until later.

Call it right there in front of her.

Never walk off without 'testing' the number!


By giving you their humber, they don't have to reject you right then and there, in person.
They can ignore you,which is the standard procedure, or tell you they have a BF, or give you the LJBF, or whatever.

Try to steer the convo to "this is cool. I'd like to do this again. How about meeting me for coffe on Thursday? Where can I reach you to set this up?"

Set a date right there.

You: "You are so cool. I can't believe you're into Star Trek and WoW. You're sexy and nerdy. We have to hang out sometime. I have to hear you speak some Klingon, but you may have to hire a bodyguard, 'cause I can't take you talking to me sexy like that in Klingonese! And I won't be responsible for my actions, just warning you"

Her: (giggling) "Yeah, definitely!! We should hang out sometime!!"

BAM!
HELLO!

Set a date with sexy Klingon chick.


Don't be happy and satisfied with just a phone number.
It doesn't mean anything.

And if she says 'she'll call you". then don't be a needy , desperate chump who HAS to call her 'first".
Wait for her to call.
IF she doesn't call after the stated time, THEN call her.IF she says "I'll Call YOU." , say "Great. I like a woman who knows what she wants, and goes for it. When are you going to call?"
And wait, dont say anything, observe her.
IF she gives you good body language, then that's a good sign. If not, don't even bother worrying about it. She doesn't OWE you ANYTHING, except common courtesy, which many females LACK anyway.
Put the responsibiltiy on her.
Let her take the slack for you, so you don't have to be "sitting there waiting by the phone."
Qualify her to be a mature, feminine classy woman.

"Well, ok, look...you're probably a great guy, and you will probably make a girl very happy, but...I'm sorry ...I'm not interested, ok? Im sorry if I hurt your feelings. I'm not interested. Nothing personal,ok?"

Usually, this is the kind of reply you will get when you put the pressure on her. And she is not interested in you.
She willl get a little nervous, but if she's a LADY..she will STILL try to be classy and respect you anyway. She will still secretly admire your attempt, and will still respect you especially if you didn't start crying and jumping up and down throwing a tantrum.

And what do you say? How do you respond?

"You fvcking b*tch!!!'

No.

"Hey, look it's ok. I thought you were cute and wanted to get to know you better. Have a great night, and take care. Nice meeting you."

And walk on...


It takes balls to not supplicate and qualify yourself to a female.
But a man doesn't waste his time on NON interested females.




Do not put all your happiness and seek validation form some female you just met.
The more needy and desperate you are, the less chance she will call.

But NEVER bring up that she made you 'wait', or wasted your time.
Don't lecture her, or be vindictive.



happy hunting.
Interceptor mind dump off...

 

[reset]

I've thought about what you mentioned with the cell phone and testing it right there. That's ballsy. You're qualifying her right there. Hell just testing the phone number in front of her might increase her attraction because she can sense she's being qualified and it sets you apart.

 

[JEFE]

Omg

When a girl gives you her phone number is still means absolutely NOTHING.

She gave you NOTHING.
not any guarantees.

The only thing you got was an "expectation."

Which was all in your mind.

OMG you opened my eyes you are so right

This is why you also CALL the number she gave you right there!
Don't wait until later.

Call it right there in front of her.

Never walk off without 'testing' the number!

this is gold I had never think about it thanks man

YAY!!!!! I wish I was a chick magnet like you!!!!!! I am a loser !!!

I realy hop you are kiding my friend you should never speak in this way about your self, it program the other people to think in that way about you

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

some time ago I´d cold aproach a hb9 in the university, I manage to get the digits but I only have talked to her for the phone, so she tell me that she was going to be around in certanin date of the month so one day earlier I call and tell her "you know we should get toghether tomorrow" and she tell me "cool I´ll call you" so that morning I was specting the call she don´t, so I call her and she answer so I ask what´s up she give me excuses, that her mother come to pic her up and she has to go, so I tell her "why you dont tell me, you make me wait tooooo long plus I had to call you " I was mad she then tell me "I have a boyfriend, and I don´t want to have problems with him" she never mention a boyfriend before she tells me "I´m going to eat now call me later please" but I tell her "you know, you better think about make me looose so much time and YOU call me, cos I don´t know why should I :moon: " I hang up and she never call again.


Well I was mad :cuss: and unhappy so I take a walk thinking..f**ck why this happened to me?.......f**cking girl..........F**CK!!!!!!!!!!!

THEN I REALICE there are much more women so I start to sargin minutes later I aproach a hb10 beautifull girl that has a good comvo with me she is 28 and sooooooo hot she give me the digits the we sey good bye.

I was walking to return when a hb9 pass me I aproach and bingo: convo, digits, and hug beautiful blonde hair and a hot body

I was happy.


the objetive of the post:

Allways COME BACK WITH FORCE and a right attitude even if it is a ****i day

thanks for the story .

but can u tell me what openers did u use on these girls
that u saw on street cuz im bad at this .

i can approach at bars , clubs and anywhere else ...except street

i just cant approach a girl that is walkin .

when i go out first i walk to my wings house . its pretty long road and i
see lot of HB that are walkin but i just dont know how to open them :S .

"i like ur shoes " - seems that doesnt work

 

[JEFE]

you know is realy easy you just need practice, when I start to do it I was scared because they allways give me strange looks.

I have learn that you should NEVER NEVER aproach for the back
what I do is walk faster than them and pass them then turn just my head and maybe do a coment about something I look in them. It does not mater what it is, what matter the most is HOW you say it. smile man it do wonders, if you see that they open their self then you continue speaking if not you just keep walking

"i like ur shoes " - seems that doesnt work

what about:

"hey those shoes look realy cool = ) where do you get them?"

she: In x/y store

you: oo cool do you go there realy often?
she: bla,bla,bla
you: you are nice what is your name?
she: HB11
you: my name is DDTP
etc,etc,etc

you see is not so hard, you can speak of any thig like the wheter, the time, a direction any thing but with good atitude.

practice practice practice

It will be b1tches that will be rude and ****, don´t get scare just smile and keep walking is their lose.

go to malls, librarys, coffes, parks (their are sat down)

drope me a line whenever you need help.

 

[SilverSonnet]

THIS IS BULL****. Not all of it, but the part about calling her right there. That is crap, and I would advise NO ONE to do this. It looks needy, insecure, and unconfident, and projects the idea that you failed to get her (real)number.
Lads, if you didn't get her right number, then you didnt do it right, so smarten up and do better the next time, it's obvious you failed if you didnt get her real number. C'mon, stop putting bull advice on here, no wonder this site's going down the drain with bad advice like that.

 

[Interceptor]

You call her right then and there to put her on the spot.
Why?

becasue you're a goddman man, and a Man is NEVER needy and NEVER 'looks" needy, and never does anything that is perceived as 'needy'.

How many guys have put in the wrong number and walked off? and when they eventually called it, they got somebody else or a disconnected line?
Kicked yourself in the ass, once or twice?

How many guys were talking to some girl, but she had to go , or you had to go and you had to get the number in a hurry, so you put it in and call it and it's a FAKE number.

Felt like a played chump, eh??


Find out right then and there.

Don't be stupid and let her play with you.

Have BALLS , man,.

Sheesh......

Calling her there to test the number shows balls and confidence, and shows her you ARE expereinced and KNOW females' "games".

How many chumps has she seen walk off with a big grin thinking what a PUA they are because they got the girls' FAKE number?




Stop this Qualifying , "I need you to like me, so I won't do ANYTHING that can possibly JEOPARDIZE this once in a lifetime Opportunity!!!!", Supplicating Mind Set,

Jees, sometimes I hate to say it, but 'blind leading the blind" in here.

 

[WesCottII]

THIS IS BULL****. Not all of it, but the part about calling her right there. That is crap, and I would advise NO ONE to do this. It looks needy, insecure, and unconfident, and projects the idea that you failed to get her (real)number.
Lads, if you didn't get her right number, then you didnt do it right, so smarten up and do better the next time, it's obvious you failed if you didnt get her real number. C'mon, stop putting bull advice on here, no wonder this site's going down the drain with bad advice like that.

Ben, C'mon now. You can't call ideas bull, if you've never tried them.

If I failed to get her (real) number, I'd rather look her in the eye, laugh and have her know that her games don't mean crap to me. And then walk away.

If I didn't test it, I'd start tricking myself into thinking "well maybe she just got a digit wrong....I'll check when I next see her"....leading to further embarrassment.

 

[SilverSonnet]

Yeah, I understand you mate, but the way HE describes it, it comes across as needy, if your checking her number. Basically, your showing her your assuming your not good enough to get her number and that you'd be lucky to get it. You have to think like this. Assume you have her right number, and if you dont, it's her loss for getting it wrong. My bad for being abit harsh, but you can see where I'm coming from.

 

[Interceptor]

Basically, your showing her your assuming your not good enough to get her number and that you'd be lucky to get it

No, it is a tactic to implement when you havent gotten enough rapport together so that you can trust her.

If you had paid attention, you would realize how I described the situaiton.
At no time did I say to do this 'after you have established solid rapport and have already planned an actual date, because she is so nice, lotyal and trustworthy."

It would still be perfectly fine to type in the number and call it to VERIFY it.
But knowing what I know now, I still dont 'assume' anything.

Dude, typing her number and calling it to see if you got it right and it worked is NOT NEEDY.




Stop trying to project your insecurits on others posts please.


And really, it seriosly looks like some guys just CANNOT pull some things off.

BUT.......
Just because you, or someone else CANNOT, doesnt mean it DOES Not work for those WHO CAN.

 

[reset]

This takes away the emotional impact for me of the scene in Goodwill Hunting where Matt Damon slams the written phone number of the chick against the glass wall to embarrass the "jerk" guy sitting on the other side. "I got her number--how do ya like them apples!" all victorious and triumphant. If she hadn't been essential to the plot it could have been a fake #.

Of course, lots of scenes in movies on how the guy gets the girl are losing their earlier affect.

It seems easy, "cool let me call it up, make sure I got it right here--"

Half the things chicks do are covert things masqurading as something else. Why not you do something covert. You already have the reasonable "make sure I got it right" thing to rely on.

This type of thing is never brought up in the seduction stuff I've read. The goal there is just getting the number.

We put ourselves through so much just to avoid potential rejection. If you had that sense of nothing to lose, think of how just about every single thing you do would be different. There's no actual "danger" in a rejection, just danger to the ego.

 

[SilverSonnet]

Stop trying to project your insecurities on others posts please.


And really, it seriosly looks like some guys just CANNOT pull some things off.

BUT.......
Just because you, or someone else CANNOT, doesnt mean it DOES Not work for those WHO CAN.

OH DEAR....Man, that's pathetic. Project my insecurities, I dont even have insecurities. I'll try it, but I'll also see the look on her face, when she sees what a loser I am, thinking I cant pull her number.

 

[reset]

Wouldn't you look more pathetic doing cartwheels and sommersaults down the street singing in ecstasy at a fake number?

If you don't have insecurities how could she see what a loser you are.

I don't know, you just call the number back like you're exchanging numbers.

"what's your number? beep-bop-boop-beep" she gets your call now she has your number too.


Or you could Try Francisco's thing of just setting up the date there and gauging her interest level that way by seeing how much she helps you out.

Or do the cartwheels and jumping jacks down the street.

 

[Interceptor]

You said this:

I dont even have insecurities

The you said THIS:

but I'll also see the look on her face, when she sees what a loser I am,

Sonnet, I want to help you, man.
IS there any way that you can step aside and stop blocking yourself and really READ and UNDERSTAND what the BASIC PRINCIPLE I am trying to convey here even IS??!


It seems you are your own worst enemy. Like so many guys here.
It is so disheartening to see a different NAME here, but the EXACT SAME ATTITUDE as SOoooooooooo MANY other guys who post here.

Seld defeating.
Self limiting.
Bringing every one else down.
Not recognizing and respecting.


And DENIAL DENIAL DENIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude.
It's like a clone factory in here sometimes.

 

[SilverSonnet]

Ouch, just got bit in the ass. Man, just read it over, man, Im wrong. My bad. It's just me, like so many other theorising, and not testing it. I suppose I DO have insecurities. Im sorry =/

 

[Interceptor]

Ouch, just got bit in the ass. Man, just read it over, man, Im wrong. My bad. It's just me, like so many other theorising, and not testing it. I suppose I DO have insecurities. Im sorry =/

Is this for real, or are you pulling my leg here?

I mean, if you realy mean it, I mean you're really sincere about realizing just what you said and your Mentality, then good for you, man.
I am proud of you.
Dude, it takes BALLS to admit when you've made a mistake. Balls.
Only REAL Men do this.
this is how they are able to Self REFELCT and then, ANALYZE and IMPROVE. This is called Applying a Tactic, reveiwing, and then Strategizing.


But if not, then let's agree to disagree and walk our separate ways.

EDIT PS:
Sonnet, I wasn't BSing you when I said I WANTED to help you.

I don't Bullsh*t, man.
I don't.

So if you're being honest, talk to me.
There is a method to seduction. But behind ALL of the Inner game and OUTER Game, is confidence, Confidence built from Self Esteem, not faked.
I don't advocate faking sh*t.
This is why when I do something with a woman, I can do it because my confidence is real and I am CONGRUENT.

This is what the entire basis of what I am about.
Congruency, Sonnet.
Women don't intimidate me.
Sure, some women are a little more sexually aggressive, but I never think of how "needy" or 'desperate" I 'may be coming off."
That sh*t doesn't even enter my mind, man.
Since I don't have those traits, I do things with real cionfidence and congruency. They can'tbreak me, becasue there's nothing for these women to poke holes through.
Do you understand, man?
Women want to poke holes throgh your armor to see if you're REAL. To see if your confidence is real or faked.
So I advocate here doing things that are what a man does when he's confident, he doesn't give that much weight or menaing to these things.

He doesn't play these silly games, man.
"Oh dear. what will she think of me?"
Bullsh*t.
Fvck that sh*t, man!
Sonnet, do you understand where I'm coming from?


Check your PMs.






Interceptor

 

[WesCottII]

Ben, this is what I've been trying to drum into your skull.

It's not about what she thinks, it's not about her as the goal of your life, it's about your growth as a man.

Here's a reality check, you DO have insecurities man. You care what other people think, you care if you're impressing people and so forth.

When you put your self esteem in the hands of others, they have the power to make your mood, and your day.

When the self esteem is in your hands....damn. Everyday is super-fantastic.

 

[SilverSonnet]

Interceptor, read my PM reply. And to everyone that witnessed this, note that this is me, thinking I know best, again. I'm 14, and I'm not using my age as an excuse, I'm always thinking I have a better understanding of things than other people, and it usually gets me into a lot of trouble. So, I'm sorry for being such an *******, and I'm really willing to let people help me and for me to help them, and Interceptor, I want you to help me, 'cos you seem to know your stuff, and I'd like to learn what you know.

Ben.