Colin Kaepernick sits during national anthem

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/
Nope. Filter male, mental illness, and there are more Blacks than Whites. Either way, it's still disproportionate if you consider the facts that Blacks are 14% of the population. The statistics are misleading until you go by percentage of the total populations rather than exact numbers.

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Every mainstream and alternative news outlet was covering the RNC. One of TYT's producers invited Alex onto the stage, and he decided to laugh and mix it up with Cenk playfully. Alex has been on TYT at least 4 times prior to this. Alex Jones wasn't there to "Fight." But Cenk is a bully, and as soon as Alex mentioned Cenk's sympathy towards Islamic terrorism, he flipped out. Then Jimmy Dore spit on Alex. So again, get your facts straight.
This is one of the times I am forced to provide a link of the video where this happened because what you are writing is pure ignorance:


Think he took umbrage about a T-shirt claiming Bill Clinton is a rapist, which he found was sick as he claimed Donald Trump was a rapist. This shirt was uncalled for and provoked what happened.

Cenk and his show being atheistic is an issue I strongly have a problem with. However, my God is a just God and Cenk takes passion on issues of justice. Therefore, whether he acknowledges God exists or not, he acknowledges justice exists and is passionate about it, and justice is one of the attributes of God. Being zealous for justice and righting wrongs in society is a good thing as moral beings. Causes like BLM are also on the side of societal justice in general as well as Colin Kaepernick. If their heart is in the right place and they are pursuing egalitarian justice then I don't understand why people have a problem with that?

Micah 5:8 He hath shown thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly before thy God?

Obviously, being just, and being merciful to other people pleases God whether you acknowledge He is real to you or not. May God have mercy on your soul.
 
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Nope. Filter male, mental illness, and there are more Blacks than Whites. Either way, it's still disproportionate if you consider the facts that Blacks are 14% of the population. The statistics are misleading until you go by percentage of the total populations rather than exact numbers.
This is the problem right here. See this everyone? He asked for a link on TOY GUNS, he got it, and he changed the subject to something else. You lost the point, so you diverted. People would have more respect if you just admitted you lost on that point, and then we could have moved onto the next one together after you conceded the point.

And no, it's not disproportionate against blacks. Blacks only made up 24% of the people killed by police, even though they commit 52% of murder and 38% of all violent crime. They are statistically UNDERREPRESENTED in these categories. The problem for you is you don't understand that statistical differences doesn't automatically equal discrimination. It has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with whose committing the crimes.

92% of people killed by police are men. That's because MEN COMMIT MORE CRIMES.

This is one of the times I am forced to provide a link of the video where this happened because what you are writing is pure ignorance:
No, it's not. The shirt was funny. Cenk didn't flip out until Ana started screaming and Alex Jones made a funny remark about TYT's "jihad". It was a reference to the fact that Cenk has shamefully given moral cover to Islamic terrorism on his show. Alex didn't yell or get aggressive like Cenk did, and he didn't ASSAULT anyone like Cenk's colleague Jimmy Dore.

Cenk and his show being atheistic is an issue I strongly have a problem with. However, my God is a just God and Cenk takes passion on issues of justice. Therefore, whether he acknowledges God exists or not, he acknowledges justice exists and is passionate about it, and justice is one of the attributes of God.
You are talking jibberish. Substitute "God" for "Zeus" or the Hindu monkey god "Hanuman" and you are saying the exact same thing. Nothing changes.

Causes like BLM are also on the side of societal justice in general.
Incorrect. They are a terrorist organization that has inspired the murder of whites and police officers. And it's founding premise was a lie. Hands Up Don't Shoot never happened.
 

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This is the problem right here. See this everyone? He asked for a link on TOY GUNS, he got it, and he changed the subject to something else. You lost the point, so you diverted. People would have more respect if you just admitted you lost on that point, and then we could have moved onto the next one together after you conceded the point.

And no, it's not disproportionate against blacks. Blacks only made up 24% of the people killed by police, even though they commit 52% of murder and 38% of all violent crime. They are statistically UNDERREPRESENTED in these categories. The problem for you is you don't understand that statistical differences doesn't automatically equal discrimination. It has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with whose committing the crimes.

92% of people killed by police are men. That's because MEN COMMIT MORE CRIMES.
The fact that police are killing white people too should be concerning to you. If movements like BLM, or other places, advance protection against police abuse then EVERYBODY will benefit, including white people who are innocently shot by police. People should stop seeing this as a Black problem and see this that police need to be held accountable to stop any deaths at all. Great models are policemen in Europe, or other places where there are simply almost no deaths occuring per year. This is mainly an American problem. You should help any movement dedicated to putting checks and balances on your own police.

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No, it's not. The shirt was funny. Cenk didn't flip out until Ana started screaming and Alex Jones made a funny remark about TYT's "jihad". It was a reference to the fact that Cenk has shamefully given moral cover to Islamic terrorism on his show. Alex didn't yell or get aggressive like Cenk did, and he didn't ASSAULT anyone like Cenk's colleague Jimmy Dore.
I provided the link to that video so it's up to everyone to review it and judge. This is your opinion of the video.

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You are talking jibberish. Substitute "God" for "Zeus" or the Hindu monkey god "Hanuman" and you are saying the exact same thing. Nothing changes.
I never make judgements against you because I don't have to resort to ignorance. One day you will die and met God so what you tell me is irrelevant.

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Incorrect. They are a terrorist organization that has inspired the murder of whites and police officers. And it's founding premise was a lie. Hands Up Don't Shoot never happened.
No, police getting away with murder and the wanton and savage nature of some of these murders inspired those murders. If a lone-wolf is disturbed by what is going on and wants to start their own vigilante justice then what does BLM have to do with that? You have smartphones and videos so police are no longer getting away with this with the community. BLM is just reacting to what police are doing.
 
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The fact that police are killing white people too should be concerning to you. If movements like BLM, or other places, advance protection against police abuse then EVERYBODY will benefit, including white people who are innocently shot by police. People should stop seeing this as a Black problem and see this that police need to be held accountable to stop any deaths at all. Great models are policemen in Europe, or other places where there are simply almost no deaths occuring per year. This is mainly an American problem. You should help any movement dedicated to putting checks and balances on your own police.
You and I have some common ground here, but unfortunately that is not BLM's view on it. They are not as sympathetic towards whites killed by police. You NEVER hear them talking about it. They ignore it because they hate white people.

I never make judgements against you because I don't have to resort to ignorance. One day you will die and met God so what you tell me is irrelevant.
Topic for another thread, but I am not afraid of empty threats of your invisible sky friend. One day I will die and cease to exist, like the day before I was conceived. And so will you.

No, police getting away with murder and the wanton and savage nature of some of these murders inspired those murders. If a lone-wolf is disturbed by what is going on and wants to start their own vigilante justice then what does BLM have to do with that? You have smartphones and videos so police are no longer getting away with this with the community. BLM is just reacting to what police are doing.
We definitely should address police brutality towards everyone, including blacks. The case of Walter Scott for example was clear murder. The officer should do life. Even in the Eric Garner case I felt that the officer should have been charged with manslaughter. I am not a totally lost cause on your arguments. But what BLM is doing in "response" is despicable. We could be putting a far better movement at the forefront of confronting police misconduct.
 

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Cam Newton is my favorite NFL player.

http://yellowhammernews.com/politic...lice-shootings-ignoring-black-black-violence/
Newton calls out ‘hypocrites’ protesting white police shootings while ignoring black-on-black violence
Newton was asked to specifically weigh in on the unrest that has swept across Charlotte this week, resulting in over a dozen police officers being injured.

Newton rejected the violent outbursts, then went a step further and gave his perspective on the stated reasons for the protests.

“I know from being a black person, it’s a lot of black people that don’t do right by black people. So you can’t be a hypocrite and just say, ‘Oh, well, a white man or a white police officer killed a black man,’” Newton said.

“Now, that’s still messed up. I’m not sitting up here saying that it’s OK. I’m just saying we just still gotta be, you know, have clear-eyed vision on both sides. And it starts with everybody holding each other accountable and policing yourselves.”
 

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I love little *****,
His demeanor’s so warm,
And if I don’t hurt him
He’ll do me no harm.

I’ll not shatter his ego,
Nor drive him away,
But ***** and I,
Very gently will play.

I’ll sit by the fire
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Three words: Anti. White. Racism.
These BLM morons need to take a political science 101 class, so they can learn concepts like left-wing versus right-wing ideas. They are too fvcking stupid to understand that opposing the police state doesn't mean that you have to stand in traffic and throw rocks at cops.

Facebook is abuzz with propaganda from both sides. It's White Guilt supporters of BLM versus police state propaganda. One of the latter actually made the good points that we don't have a police problem; we have a mental illness problem, a drug problem, a welfare state problem,, etc. And I agree. But BLM doesn't understand that there are left-wing solutions to these problems: state-run mental hospitals and asylums, welfare reform that is more than cutting everyone off like the right-wingers want, and the legalization of even hard drugs like heroin, with state-run safe injection sites and government money for addiction treatment as a healthcare issue.

Chicago has 3,000 shootings this year, because they are fighting over turf on which to sell heroin. Make heroin free and 90% of those shootings will go away. But BLM will never say these things, because it portrays urban black people as drug dealers and addicts. But that's obviously the fvcking truth, as evidenced by the murder rate higher than Baghdad, Iraq, and the street price of heroin being at $3-4 a dose. The Drug War is lost; time to give up. BLM could actually do some good in the world if they would ever move past hating cops and white people as the only beliefs in their platform.
 
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These BLM morons need to take a political science 101 class, so they can learn concepts like left-wing versus right-wing ideas. They are too fvcking stupid to understand that opposing the police state doesn't mean that you have to stand in traffic and throw rocks at cops.

Facebook is abuzz with propaganda from both sides. It's White Guilt supporters of BLM versus police state propaganda. One of the latter actually made the good points that we don't have a police problem; we have a mental illness problem, a drug problem, a welfare state problem,, etc. And I agree. But BLM doesn't understand that there are left-wing solutions to these problems: state-run mental hospitals and asylums, welfare reform that is more than cutting everyone off like the right-wingers want, and the legalization of even hard drugs like heroin, with state-run safe injection sites and government money for addiction treatment as a healthcare issue.

Chicago has 3,000 shootings this year, because they are fighting over turf on which to sell heroin. Make heroin free and 90% of those shootings will go away. But BLM will never say these things, because it portrays urban black people as drug dealers and addicts. But that's obviously the fvcking truth, as evidenced by the murder rate higher than Baghdad, Iraq, and the street price of heroin being at $3-4 a dose. The Drug War is lost; time to give up. BLM could actually do some good in the world if they would ever move past hating cops and white people as the only beliefs in their platform.
There definitely is a problem with police brutality in this country. I am highly entertained and inspired by these libertarians and constitutionalists all over the internet standing up to this creeping police state. The Founding Fathers would have been proud.

But unfortunately, in the BLM vs. Police war I have been forced to side with the police for a few reasons: BLM's founding premise is a lie. There is no unique problem of police shooting black people. Police are killing white people double the amount of times even though blacks (12%) and whites (63%) commit a similar number of total crimes. So BLM, out of a tribal racism, has spit on the dead bodies of the white (and Hispanic) victims of police brutality. I can't accept that. I can't side with people that hate me because of my race, and who care NOTHING about facts. 3/4 of the cases they loot and riot over have NOTHING to do with police brutality. They are irrational people, and their tactics rise to the level of terrorism. So I have to reserve my concern for police brutality until we can find a more reputable group to put at the forefront of this overarching societal problem.
 

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These BLM morons need to take a political science 101 class, so they can learn concepts like left-wing versus right-wing ideas. They are too fvcking stupid to understand that opposing the police state doesn't mean that you have to stand in traffic and throw rocks at cops.

Facebook is abuzz with propaganda from both sides. It's White Guilt supporters of BLM versus police state propaganda. One of the latter actually made the good points that we don't have a police problem; we have a mental illness problem, a drug problem, a welfare state problem,, etc. And I agree. But BLM doesn't understand that there are left-wing solutions to these problems: state-run mental hospitals and asylums, welfare reform that is more than cutting everyone off like the right-wingers want, and the legalization of even hard drugs like heroin, with state-run safe injection sites and government money for addiction treatment as a healthcare issue.

Chicago has 3,000 shootings this year, because they are fighting over turf on which to sell heroin. Make heroin free and 90% of those shootings will go away. But BLM will never say these things, because it portrays urban black people as drug dealers and addicts. But that's obviously the fvcking truth, as evidenced by the murder rate higher than Baghdad, Iraq, and the street price of heroin being at $3-4 a dose. The Drug War is lost; time to give up. BLM could actually do some good in the world if they would ever move past hating cops and white people as the only beliefs in their platform.
Whites use heroin more than any other group, making up 90 of all new cases:

http://time.com/135695/heroin-white-suburbs/

 

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Whites use heroin more than any other group

No sh!t. Who do you think sells it to them? The heroin epidemic on the west and south sides of Chicago are well-documented. So are the shootings. Make a map of each, and you'll end up with identical maps. Until the street value goes to zero, these problems are not going away.
 

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Obama made some comments on Kaepernick's protest a few days ago, which I thought were very fair and (I'm sure deliberately) even handed. He basically said the protesters should understand the military families and such who may have lost a child and found their protest offensive, but on the other hand the people who didn't like the protests should try to see the view from the other side as well.

I thought that was very fair and unlike the sports programs, who have basically been saying support Kaepernick or else you're a filthy racist.

But in response to Obama's comments, I again heard the sports commentators say that protests had to be offensive, they had to make you uncomfortable, or we would never hear the discussion. I disagree with this vehemently. This discussion was already being had, the NBA players and WNBA players made tasteful protests, and everyone knew what "Black Lives Matter" meant. All Kaepernick did was p!ss people off and widen the divide, the issue had already been brought forward.
 

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I wonder why these BLM protesting celebrities will not discuss issues like Tommy discusses in this Youtube video? You know issues like how we have all of these pieces of shyt black men out here, making kids with black women, and not supporting the kids? Then of course you have dumb a.ss black women who sleep with these pieces of shyt?

Kaepernick won't take a fvcking KNEE on these issues though. The guy Tommy is referring to has 9 kids from 7 different women, no JOB, and got on social media clowning his son for getting accepted to/deciding to go to college.

I don't care what BLM says, the BIGGEST problem facing black people today is our own internal piss poor choices. The facts, the stats, and the bullshyt right in front of our eyes is just too much evidence that I'm right.

 

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NFL ratings are down drastically right now. The media wants to drive home the national anthem protests as important news, but football fans don't want to see it. People don't turn on a Sunday afternoon NFL game to get told how horrible their country is.
 

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NFL ratings are down drastically right now. The media wants to drive home the national anthem protests as important news, but football fans don't want to see it. People don't turn on a Sunday afternoon NFL game to get told how horrible their country is.
Watching pro sports is for beta males. The NFL is also unwatchable in its current format. Score a touchdown, commercial break, kick extra point, commercial break, kick off, commercial break, drive and punt, commercial break. There are over 100 god damn commercials in an average game. This isn't the same game that was played in the past. I'd love to see these pampered babies go through 1960's style NFL football and have D1ck Butkus give em the clothes line in the snow.

 
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I wonder why these BLM protesting celebrities will not discuss issues like Tommy discusses in this Youtube video? You know issues like how we have all of these pieces of shyt black men out here, making kids with black women, and not supporting the kids? Then of course you have dumb a.ss black women who sleep with these pieces of shyt?

Kaepernick won't take a fvcking KNEE on these issues though. The guy Tommy is referring to has 9 kids from 7 different women, no JOB, and got on social media clowning his son for getting accepted to/deciding to go to college.

I don't care what BLM says, the BIGGEST problem facing black people today is our own internal piss poor choices. The facts, the stats, and the bullshyt right in front of our eyes is just too much evidence that I'm right.

You mean Pookie and Ray Ray? Or is it Pookie and nem? :lol:
 

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Kaepernick started his first game of the year today. His team got thumped by the Bills 45-16. Kaepernick's qb rating was 77.8, which sucks, but was better than the 69.6 that the team has been averaging so far this season. 49ers rank 2nd to last in the NFL in that stat.

T-shirts were being sold outside the stadium picturing Kaepernick with a rifle scope cross-hair on him.
 

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Kaepernick started his first game of the year today. His team got thumped by the Bills 45-16. Kaepernick's qb rating was 77.8, which sucks, but was better than the 69.6 that the team has been averaging so far this season. 49ers rank 2nd to last in the NFL in that stat.

T-shirts were being sold outside the stadium picturing Kaepernick with a rifle scope cross-hair on him.
Weird how people who whined about his constitutional right to peacefully protest (which the owner supported) make thinly veiled threats of violence against Kaep. And anyone who knows anything about constitutional law knows violent threats are not protected speech.

The tshirts werent the first instance of this hypocrisy either.

PS - 49ers just plain stink...with or without Kaep on the field.
 
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