Cold approaches

[Noir]

I'm experimenting a little bit in this field an I need a little help/ideas from you guys.
First of all I want to know if there are some good posts about this cuz i searched and didn't realy found any.

Next I would like to make this thread an 'experiences thread'. I want us to post here all our cold approaches, good or bad and to learn from them. Here's my first:

I was standing on a bench in the park, enjoying my cigar, as 2 HB walked by and sat on a bench 5 meters across me. I smiled and one chick smiled back so , according to the 3sec. rule, I took action (i was there waiting for my friend).

me: Hy, my name is Noir, can I join you?
c1:yes
c2:no! we were talking something personal
me: hehe, looks like you have to decide...
c2kay, u can join us

my friend comes and he can't belive his eyes (i used to be a total AFC, not even looking people in the eyes).

Long story short, he joins us, we start talking and after 30 mins i try a #close on c1. She gives me the number (wich was fake afterall) and I say goodbye and leave. My friend was like WTF! u didn't know them? man, u've got ballz!

I am so happy! I realy did manage my first cold approach and I'm not givin up!

Let's hear it guys.

 

[Page]

Very good. At least you were man enough to try.

 

[cgraz]

Well I can't imagine that this thread is going to go the way you want it to, but I'll give you a couple tips on cold approaches.

But before I do, I give you props on your progress because it does take balls to approach girls...scary as hell at first. Keep it up!

I personally don't like openers like the one you used (I'm sure some guys will disagree with me), but here's why. When you walk up to a girl and say

me: Hy, my name is Noir, can I join you?

It's kind of obvious that you want her number. Girls automatically will put up their defenses on one like this. You're physically attracted (cause you've never talked to her), and you're trying to pick her up, so in her mind, better put up the shield. And I know if someone I didn't know were to randomly walk up to me, I might be like wtf is this person talking to me? However I notice when people talk to me in public and it has to do with something that's going on, I'm a lot more receptive and open.

I've found that the best approaches are spontaneous ones, and even better when I combine it with c/f. For example, if a girl is reading a book, you wouldn't want to walk up to her and say, "Hey my name is cgraz" because it doesn't seem natural. If she was giving you good EC and the go-ahead signals, then you could walk over and say hi, but I prefer to use the surroundings as an opener.

So lets say she's reading Garfield; you'd have better success if you walked over and said something like, "Aren't you a little old to be reading that?" (with the right tone). It'll get her to laugh and her defenses will almost always be down. Or if it's a place that isn't wild: “Whats a NICE girl like you doing in a WILD place like this?"

or if she's looking in the mirror: "Don't worry, your hair doesn't look THHAAAAAT bad..." cause it's spontaneous. It's not canned, it's not a "tactic". People hate when you try to use a tactic or technique on them, and they put their guards up when you do. So the more spontaneous you can keep the approach, the better your chances will be. And if you've got some c/f to throw in there, even better!

Don't spend that long talking to them! 30 minutes is a long time. My approaches last anywhere from 30 seconds to 3, maybe 4 minutes If I'm having trouble establishing a good enough interest level to avoid flakiness. 30 minutes is really acting AFC...the whole lingering around thing. Alphas got things to do; they're busy (atleast that's the image you want to portray).

Keep the conversation interesting: There's a good technique on here called nouning to keep a conversation going based off of ANYTHING! Keeps it interesting and smooth rather than having to ask her the same boring questions she hears all the time. Search the forum for 'nouning'

If you don't follow the 3second rule, then use distance flirting. I discovered this at a party where this SHB (super hot babe) was SURROUNDED by guys and there was no way I was getting past those **** blocks. My god it works wonders. I use it more often now when I know the girl will be there for a while.

Make EC with every girl you want to approach, and hold it. Don't look away first. If she gazes back and things look good, approach. If she adds a smile into the mix, what the hell are you waiting for? Go get her number! I don't really approach girls who haven't been giving me signals (unless she's just damn hot and I want to meet her). I usually create openings with EC until she gives me a good signal. That way, I know I'm approaching someone whose already initially interested.

And keep in mind you're not doing a pick-up! You're doing a cold approach. The girl could turn out to be some stuck-up, prissy, *****! You don't want a girls number who is like that. You're really just approaching to see if she's worth YOUR time. You approach, read her signals, then if things are a go you get her number. If things aren't looking good you politely excuse yourself.

Use other girls as social proof whenever possible. Makes you more attractive...more valuable to other girls.

And never ask for her number! I can only hope you know this one, but one of my favorite number closers (I learned this one from pimp-sicle) is

Well [girls name] I've got to get back to my friends, but you seem like fun; we should get together sometime.

If she says yeah but doesn't offer her number:

Me: Great. I'll call you.
Her: But you don't have my number
Me: That's why you're going to give it to me.

What's your number works well also.

Hope this tips helped you out. These are just off the top of my head. I'm sure other guys may disagree with my methods (that's why we all have our own style) or offer their suggestions. If you have any questions let me know.

Cgraz

 

[Noir]

10x allot guys, this means allot to me. Tomorrow I'll go out and , as i read in one of the boot camps, i'll try and get as much as 10 rejections to make me feel better about getting rejected.

Think i'll post my progress here to keep me motivated and all. Averybody, free to join.

 

[Noir]

BTW, can enyone give me a link to a good bootcamp? I saw that some guys did have a lot of success in increasing their skills with this.

 

[Zeus]

Noir, hey pal. We seem to be in the same boat you and me. I have also started to walk on this path, maybe we could join forces together?

U really inspired me tonight, keep up the work! I'll try to match you man =)


Zeus will be cheering for you!

Peace!

 

[Tantric]

cool cgraz...like the post...