Clubs Meat Markets?

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Clubs are meat markets for men.

Clubs are fun to women (its their game to f with us, to make themselves feel wanted, like they are attractive, that they have the ability to attract men, to get laid by the right guy, to milk the money out of some chump, the latter being the most frequent).

I think hot women go to clubs to get free drinks and have fun with their friends. They also like to lead men on and f with our heads. Chicks are hedonists and users of men and clubs are perfect for them. They can seduce some dudes, get free drinks, they love to f or play games with AFCs. DJs use clubs to seduce women rather then to act like a chump and the DJ does not need to get laid b/c if he HAD to, he would look and be desperate. Just get turned down by a 5 or a 6 and you will never get a 9 or a 10 if they see you. I go there to improve my seduction techniques. If it happens it happens, but I do not lose money or get played.


Its play or get played. You have game or you don't. Improve your game and seduce those b's.
 

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clubs are not a meat market for men, men go there expecting a meat market.
you got the game pinned down to a close 75%, but the next 25% will take you a long time.
 

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This might be arguing semantics, but at the club, you pick women up. The nature of the club allows for very little opportunity to actually seduce a woman.

Anyway, don't knock yourself out of the game... if you are worried that the 9-10's at the club won't like you if you approach all the other woman... you are right to be. Think about this though, rather then be in such a hurry to pick out a woman to mack on, try sitting back and having a good time, and if you come across one of these 9-10's then go straight for them with no hesitation...

Or you could also try the technique of looking for 'good leads', like women that are glancing in your direction, or other suggestions of interest.

I think it's wrongly called the 'meat market' though... it's only really a meat market when your good.

For example, about 3-4 months ago, me and 2 friends walked into the bar around 12:30-1 and walked out at last call, each with a girl in hand... and 2 of the 3 of us got laid that night... my poor buddy picked up the one virgin in the club it seems.
 

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Anyway, don't knock yourself out of the game... if you are worried that the 9-10's at the club won't like you if you approach all the other woman... you are right to be. Think about this though, rather then be in such a hurry to pick out a woman to mack on, try sitting back and having a good time, and if you come across one of these 9-10's then go straight for them with no hesitation...
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That is my approach, make her hot indirectly, but I pick her out.
So I seduce her. I am muscular, so I might walk by her where she can see my exposed arms. Or I might dance like a male stripper by chicks so that she can see me and she is turned on. Then at that point I would make convo if possible or wait til she dances and then move in on her.


If you approach 6-7 and are turned down, then those 9-10s will then you are a loser.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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When you go to clubs, the only thing you expect yourself to be is : the most unique and fun dude on the dancefloor. Do not worry about being the best. But yep, it's true that girls go to clubs to coktease men.
 

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Clubs

The clubbin scene is very trivial in terms of seducing/picking up women or what every you'll call it. I started clubbin a few months ago and my attitude at the beginning was very "gotta pull no matter what" oriented, this took a massive 180 last weekend.

I went to a club very far away from my house, it was classy (the club, not the girls :p [SE London]) compared to some of the run down joints nearby. It's fairly famous aswell. The DJ (disk jockey:D ) was playing some classics and all through the night I became more focused on enjoying myself rather than pulling. It was the first time I realised that I'm only ever gonna go to clubs to enjoy myself from now on.

I think people place too much importance in women, and need to take a step back. The way I interpret being a DJ is in the sense that you'll become more appreciative of the proper things in life, and the women will come as a bonus due to a new found confidence and positive outlook.

Needless to say I still don't mind gettin some poonani ;) . I've just started measuring a successful night based on enjoying dancing and the music, women come as the bonus.
 

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Interesting point.

But do you think your *****in' is any better then the girl's turning you down?
 

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???

Originally posted by Titus

But do you think your *****in' is any better then the girl's turning you down?
Didn't quite get that?
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Re: ???

Originally posted by Named
Didn't quite get that?
The standards, or how you guys call it, "the game," has gotten much, much, MUCH tougher for everyone over the last, let's say few decades. Meaning, we ALL desier and think we deserve only the best and nothing less. Further meaning, we are all much more selfish and egocentrical then anytime before.

So, it's everone's fault that it's all so high standard. Not just the girls. And "DJism," as far as 90% of guys understand it on this board, is giving it only a HUGE helping hand.

Yes... when there are 10 kings behind the table and everyone wants to be treated like one, there is trouble on the horizon.
 

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Heh, it seems like guys just don't understand the club scene.

Guys go to the club to "Get women" and to "be 'got' by women." That's what it's about for them...they go specifically to pursue hot chicks. The degree to which a club is preferred over another is dictated by the number of hot chicks and that's about it.

Girls don't go to the club to "get men" or to "be 'got' by men." But you can't honestly say that women don't CARE whether men are there or not. Women know that by virtue of their looks, personality, sexuality, dancing, fun-loving nature, etc, there's a high likelihood that guys will be attracted to them at the club and will get drawn into that "fun matrix." Women in clubs don't go trying to catch guys, they bring the fun and try to get guys to join in. (of course, there are the desperate sluts and such that ARE there to get or be gotten, but they're a different breed).

Stop looking at clubs as a "market" of any kind and start looking at them as a gathering, as a big party just like the one at your buddy's house last month, only you just don't know anyone yet. Bring your own brand of "fun" and associate with other people and bring that fun to them...let them "join you." Then you can work your game as you bring them in closer and closer and suddenly you're making love to some hottie in the back seat of your car.

And you have NO idea how you got there. It isn't like, "I used C&F on her here and Kino'd her and I saw her pupils dilate blah blah blah," it just HAPPENS because it was MEANT to and because you were having so much fun that it NEEDED to happen.

The club isn't a *****house...it's an ORGY!
 

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Squirrels and Named, you are on my line of thought. Have fun. Think about this, sex for chicks is about having fun. I read on this board on a thread of sexual technique where this chick said sex is about having fun.

I don't go to clubs to pickup chicks. I go there to have fun and seduction is part of it. I have fun, I seduce chicks but I do not look desperate and the target of my seduction really does not know I am seducing her. She THINKS I am having fun, which I am but the way I am having fun is to seduce her.



For example, I went to this club because there was this bikini and male bathing suit contest where the winner would win $100 and a free year membership at a expensive health club ($800) value.

I go the the club at 10pm. I walk around and there are two chicks (one is a hb 9 with an excellent ass and face) sitting at a table by themselves. So I sit down by myself at a table next to theres. I was watching some dude juggling fire by the pool. Cool. I move out to somewhere else. I go back a half hour later. They then say that the contest will start in 10 minutes. I get and she realizes I am going to do it. Later, I see that hb 9 in the contest but she was not going to do it because she had no bikini , she was just wearing a kickass black bra and panties, nice ass!!!!!!.

Then I do my **** at the male swimsuit contest. I think strike up convo after the deal and bang her that night.

Deal was indirect seduction. She was attracted to me and saw me wanting to do the contest for fun and I am a stud, she knew she was hot, so she did the contest herself.


Fun DJ shiit.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Girls don't go to the club to "get men" or to "be 'got' by men." But you can't honestly say that women don't CARE whether men are there or not. Women know that by virtue of their looks, personality, sexuality, dancing, fun-loving nature, etc, there's a high likelihood that guys will be attracted to them at the club and will get drawn into that "fun matrix." Women in clubs don't go trying to catch guys, they bring the fun and try to get guys to join in. (of course, there are the desperate sluts and such that ARE there to get or be gotten, but they're a different breed).
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I disagree...

Women don't go to all that work of getting ready and buying the tightest cute dress they can squeeze into just for fun.

They go wanting attention from men. Pure and simple.

If you think anything different your gicing women far, far to much credit.

Women want ot be part of the action.

When I go out, women don't bring the action - my friends and I bring the action. We are the party - and women - want to join it.

That's the attitude you need.
 

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Re: ???

Originally posted by Named
Didn't quite get that?
There is ne biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig problem with the "play or be played" philosophy. Which, very unfortuonatly, i have never seen to have been posted or even noticed anywhere around here.

What you put in is what you recieve. It's the universal law. Or, more scientificaly, you can call it the law of action-reaction. You give energy-you recieve back the same energy. There is no escape from this natural law as there is no escape, like let's say gravity. It's universal.

And so... how do you think this comes in with the "dating is like a sort of a battlefield philosophy?" ("play or be played")

Think it out for yourself.
 

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Stop thinking about this. IT DOES NOT MATTER....


Men and women go to clubs for many different reasons, to drink, to have fun, to dance, to pickup/get picked up, to fvck...

I know many girls that go to certain clubs to find sexy guys to take home and fvck, same as guys do they just suck more at it...


ANYTIME YOU MEET A GIRL IT'S A CHANCE, does not matter where it is just that clubs have certain presuppositions and also you can easier tell what kind of people the girls are there.
 
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