Clubgame vs Daygame

[#41]

I'd love to be better at daygame, but it's a little tougher when I work from 8-5 most weekdays. Not a lot of time to get out there and go to "fun" type places during the day.

Pretty much limited to office, coffee and lunch.

 

[SoylentGreen]

Yeah, but where do you take your lunch? Is your office big? Are there other departments? Where do you go for coffee? How do you get there? There are women everywhere. If you want to get laid, you'll find the time.

You get off at five. Go for a walk until six. Go window-shopping. Talk to every girl.
Say:
"hey are you Jennifer?"
"NO? well you look just like her, she was in my math class....so where is a good place to go for a beer around here?" or something.

Or go to a restaurant after work. Order dinner, hit on the waitresses.
Sit at the bar. Go every other day and build a friendship with the sexiest bartender. Tell her if she wasn't a bartender you would totally hit on her, lol, play with her, tease her. Ask if she has any cool friends she can hook you up with...

Go outside the restaurant, if you smoke ask girls for a light. Say hello to every woman that passes you.
Take the bus instead of driving. Ask girls on the bus what stop to get out at. Start a conversation.

Go to a mall for an hour. Hit on the girls in the stores. Try on clothes and ask the hot clerks: "does this outfit look ok? would you go out with a guy who wore THIS shirt? etc etc.

Or go to stores in the mall, like a bookstore, and ask girls if you can help them find anything(from a movie: Dan In Real Life). See how long you can "act like an employee" before she catches on. Then laugh with her about it.

Sit at an outside patio like a Starbucks or something. Talk to girls at neighbouring tables.

If you work 8-5 you still have from about 6 or 7 until 10 pm to hang out and still get home in time for a good nights sleep. Thats three good hours a day to get out there. Hit on one girl an hour and at the end of a five day week you would have hit on fifteen girls. Then do it again the next week.

 

[MrLuvr]

Your method presupposes that:
a) she'll be there long enough for you to build attraction over a longer period of time
b) that by the time you ask for her number she won't have a boyfriend
c) that one has the time to continuously go somewhere in order to MAYBE get the girl.

You are overthinking this stuff. Some may be there long enough others won't, some may get a new boyfriend, others may be thinking about breaking up their existing boyfriend etc...etc.. There are too many variations to worry about, just do what you have to do. Things balance out in the end.

 

[SoylentGreen]

You are overthinking this stuff. Some may be there long enough others won't, some may get a new boyfriend, others may be thinking about breaking up their existing boyfriend etc...etc.. There are too many variations to worry about, just do what you have to do. Things balance out in the end.

True. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of "planting seeds" so to speak. I got turned down by the video store clerk three weeks ago, but this week she is very, very smiley, so who knows what could happen over a longer period of time. She said she had a bf, but maybe now she doesn't. Its true there are MANY variations.

 

[The Bat]

I knew it was going to be a matter of time before somebody came on here and mentioned how bars/clubs are only frequented by "low quality" girls lacking "substance"...right...and the girl at the coffee shop is somehow an angel....

:crackup:

The funny thing is that if the guys, who say that bars/clubs girls are low quality, had any success at bars/clubs, they wouldn't be so quick to generalize. It's the same faulty line of reasoning as what I call the "meathead" syndrome. That's where guys out of shape think that getting muscles will turn them into meatheads and that they should only work on their personalities to attract girls.

Anyway, about daygame...

You have to learn to look for subtle signs of attraction from these girls. You can do this either before you approach her or during your conversation. Seduction community doesn't touch at all on body language. I feel that body language is the single most neglected tool. If you learn the basics of body language, you start to filter out the interested vs. non-interested girls pretty quickly and efficiently.

I think this may be a problem that lot of guys face in the club scene. They simply don't know how to communicate a strong, attractive vibe or they don't know how to interpret a welcoming vibe from a girl (or recognize a "fvck off" vibe).

Most guys here know the basics about how to talk to a girl so I won't go there. But I will say that once you learn to pick up on subtle cues from girls who are interested in you, what you want to say to her will come naturally.

 

[#41]

I knew it was going to be a matter of time before somebody came on here and mentioned how bars/clubs are only frequented by "low quality" girls lacking "substance"...right...and the girl at the coffee shop is somehow an angel....

I don't think anyone is saying that, but it's hard to argue that the AW factor is much greater in the bar/club than it is elsewhere -- bars/clubs are AW magnets because the situation allows them to act that way.

You have to learn to look for subtle signs of attraction from these girls. You can do this either before you approach her or during your conversation. Seduction community doesn't touch at all on body language. I feel that body language is the single most neglected tool. If you learn the basics of body language, you start to filter out the interested vs. non-interested girls pretty quickly and efficiently.

I think this may be a problem that lot of guys face in the club scene. They simply don't know how to communicate a strong, attractive vibe or they don't know how to interpret a welcoming vibe from a girl (or recognize a "fvck off" vibe).

I agree with this -- and it's exactly this reason why I prefer not to game at the bar/club. I rarely, if ever, receive any "subtle signs" of attraction because I'm not that attractive of a guy (tall, but not particularly attractive) -- I rely on my personality and conversation skills to build attraction. Unless I'm gravely mistaken, there's no "you look like an interesting guy" sign that a girl will give.

Club/bar game is all about initial attraction and being invited (via signals) to open or dance. I'd grow old and die waiting for that to happen at a club.

 

[edger]

I rarely, if ever, receive any "subtle signs" of attraction because I'm not that attractive of a guy (tall, but not particularly attractive)

I don't receive "subtle signs" that much either, and I'm a good-looking guy. Don't worry about it, most attractive women out there don't focus on a guys physical looks. They focus on other things.

 

[The Bat]

Again, look at what I said earlier. If you aren't an attractive, good looking guy, or don't have the rockstar vibe, then maybe you shouldn't attempt bar/club game.

And of course, your personality and conversational skills matter too. Edger is right that girls just don't focus on looks alone.

But most hot girls at clubs/bars have an entire mob of guys to choose from. Don't you think they are going to want a very good looking guy with a suave personality? It might seem that odds are against you in a club/bar, but you can learn the rules of the game and play by it better than the next guy.

Don't wish things were easier, wish you were better.

#41...not to be a prick but here is where the guy clearly said that bars/clubs are full of girls with no substance.

Clubs are overrated.

You're not going to meet any girl of any substance at a club - it's like trying to play pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey with a water gun from 70 feet out. Sure, you might get the tail on the donkey once, but you're going to get a whole lot of collateral damage on the grass and everywhere else.

What I'm trying to say is that you're going to have to sort through a whole lot of terrible women to find someone even remotely compatible with you.

Daygame is where it's at. Cultivate daily relationships - say 'hi' to every girl you see on a daily basis. Work your way in every day. Ask her what's up. Strike up a conversation.

I've had success with night game but it's trash.