Club Game - What to do after opening a set?

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How do you guys go from the initial approach to kissing to a ONS in the club?

I useally dont have a problem with approaching and closing the number or instagram, but i dont know what to do after that. The strongest part of my game is talking, but you know in the club with the music you cant hear sh@t.

How do you guys progress to a ONS in the club after starting a convo?

Steps you take? Strategies?

Thanks in advance
 

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Slowly physically eascalating.

You go from dancing casually, to dancing closely, touching, maybe even grinding and then opt for kissing.
 

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Slowly physically eascalating.

You go from dancing casually, to dancing closely, touching, maybe even grinding and then opt for kissing.
No talking? Or just small talk?

So mostly focussing on escalating physically. But how do you build a connection or rapport to get her to go home with you?
 

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How do you guys go from the initial approach to kissing to a ONS in the club?

I useally dont have a problem with approaching and closing the number or instagram, but i dont know what to do after that. The strongest part of my game is talking, but you know in the club with the music you cant hear sh@t.

How do you guys progress to a ONS in the club after starting a convo?

Steps you take? Strategies?

Thanks in advance
These muhfukaz on here don't listen, but maybe you are different.

Here is game..

The more attractive you are to a woman, the less you need to say to woo her.

It all starts with physical attraction. If she is physically attracted to you, then there is very little you will need to say.

Therefore, say very little.

1. Approach her.
2. Compliment her (You're cute).
3. Ask if she is single.
4. Ask her name (depending on answer to #3).
5. Ask for her number (or ask if you can give her yours).

Save the chit chat for the first date.

Of course, I would recommend some Mode One in there, but you may not be ready for that.

But yeah man, follow that simple blueprint and save yourself some time/anxiety.
 

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These muhfukaz on here don't listen, but maybe you are different.

Here is game..

The more attractive you are to a woman, the less you need to say to woo her.

It all starts with physical attraction. If she is physically attracted to you, then there is very little you will need to say.

Therefore, say very little.

1. Approach her.
2. Compliment her (You're cute).
3. Ask if she is single.
4. Ask her name (depending on answer to #3).
5. Ask for her number (or ask if you can give her yours).

Save the chit chat for the first date.

Of course, I would recommend some Mode One in there, but you may not be ready for that.

But yeah man, follow that simple blueprint and save yourself some time/anxiety.
Excellent stuff as always. If you know she likes you, throw her in the air like this. They LOVE this and all the girls around you will have the “**** me” eyes and want you to do it to them too.

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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Here is game..

1. Approach her.
2. Compliment her (You're cute).
3. Ask if she is single.
4. Ask her name (depending on answer to #3).
5. Ask for her number (or ask if you can give her yours).
I don't necessarily disagree with you (because my own experience over a fairly long time now has taught me that what you say is largely irrelevant and she kind of decides if she wants you (or not) before you've even finished your opener and it's non negotiable) BUT it's still true that like 50% of the PUA community would say what you've described above isn't game at all, and they'd say if you get rejected using that approach it's because you didn't run any 'game' on the girl at all (things and techniques to essentially force attraction in her)

Again, i'm not really disagreeing with you, but this contrast in beliefs in the community is probably the cause for lots of confusion and arguments on PUA sites lol
 

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I don't necessarily disagree with you (because my own experience over a fairly long time now has taught me that what you say is largely irrelevant and she kind of decides if she wants you (or not) before you've even finished your opener and it's non negotiable) BUT it's still true that like 50% of the PUA community would say what you've described above isn't game at all, and they'd say if you get rejected using that approach it's because you didn't run any 'game' on the girl at all (things and techniques to essentially force attraction in her)

Again, i'm not really disagreeing with you, but this contrast in beliefs in the community is probably the cause for lots of confusion and arguments on PUA sites lol
Are you equating game with tactics, like "push n pull"? I always felt a lot of those things simply came naturally during the course of the interaction. The pua people were marketing something that guys were already using but was unrealized (to some). Im of the opinion true game boils down to being socially adept; having a smooth rap and being able to make the person feel comfortable. I say this because I have pulled plenty of times without really trying. I'm saying I just had a conversation and would sprinkle in some humor here and there - that was it there was no strategy being employed.

You get sized up instantly, just like how they do when they come into your awareness. Some guys just suffer from foot in mouth disease. Some women will say the guy was great until he opened his mouth. Either said some dumb **** or came across overly awkward.


PP(Prescense & Personality) is what is going go bring you across the finish line.
 
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Are you equating game with tactics, like "push n pull"? I always felt a lot of those things simply came naturally during the course of the interaction. The pua people were marketing something that guys were already using but was unrealized (to some). Im of the opinion true game boils down to being socially adept; having a smooth rap and being able to make the person feel comfortable. I say this because I have pulled plenty of times without really trying. I'm saying I just had a conversation and would sprinkle in some humor here and there - that was it there was no strategy being employed.

You get sized up instantly, just like how they do when they come into your awareness. Some guys just suffer from foot in mouth disease. Some women will say the guy was great until he opened his mouth. Either said some dumb **** or came across overly awkward.


PP(Prescense & Personality) is what is going go bring you across the finish line.
I agree.
It's not so much what *I* equate 'game' with, but more what the community in general does.
There's still many coaches saying that you shouldn't ever really get rejected, and that if you did, it's because you didn't employ 'game', and that you were just playing the numbers game (saying hi, telling her she's cute, and asking for her number). They'd say if only you used the correct NLP patterns, or the right negs and pushpull lines on the open etc etc (depending on which 'expert' you listen too), then you'd have gotten her, even if you are 65 and bald and fat and short, and she's 18 and a 10/10 lol

But yes, I agree with you. I feel like 'game' is largely something that only people who haven't been properly socialised need to 'learn'. It's mostly just basic social skills combined with having the balls to make a move. Everyone pats themselves on the back for their 'game' when they pull, without realising they pulled her in spite of it and not because of it. I believe in identical bodies we'd all have very similar results indeed

I don't write FR's anymore, but I pulled a fairly hot 19 year old on Saturday and certainly didn't do anything complicated at all in terms of 'game'. In fact, I was a pretty drunk and probably displayed a lack of game, especially considering she was sober! but it didn't matter. She was just attracted to me (not that i'm especially good looking at all, but not every girl as typical tastes I guess) and so all I had to do was not pi$$ my pants lol. And like most of us, i've also been rejected before when i've been on fire and oozing confidence and spitting good game etc. She just didn't care lol
 

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I agree.
It's not so much what *I* equate 'game' with, but more what the community in general does.
There's still many coaches saying that you shouldn't ever really get rejected, and that if you did, it's because you didn't employ 'game', and that you were just playing the numbers game (saying hi, telling her she's cute, and asking for her number). They'd say if only you used the correct NLP patterns, or the right negs and pushpull lines on the open etc etc (depending on which 'expert' you listen too), then you'd have gotten her, even if you are 65 and bald and fat and short, and she's 18 and a 10/10 lol

But yes, I agree with you. I feel like 'game' is largely something that only people who haven't been properly socialised need to 'learn'. It's mostly just basic social skills combined with having the balls to make a move. Everyone pats themselves on the back for their 'game' when they pull, without realising they pulled her in spite of it and not because of it. I believe in identical bodies we'd all have very similar results indeed

I don't write FR's anymore, but I pulled a fairly hot 19 year old on Saturday and certainly didn't do anything complicated at all in terms of 'game'. In fact, I was a pretty drunk and probably displayed a lack of game, especially considering she was sober! but it didn't matter. She was just attracted to me (not that i'm especially good looking at all, but not every girl as typical tastes I guess) and so all I had to do was not pi$$ my pants lol. And like most of us, i've also been rejected before when i've been on fire and oozing confidence and spitting good game etc. She just didn't care lol
Good going my guy:up:

Lot of pua coaches that say it failed because didn't run proper game always are quick to point out they have a product or seminar that addressed the problem. What a coincidence! If only you had purchased it before hand you wouldn't have been in the predicament. The truth is there is no ****in resistance destroyer line or whatever that is going go to convince a woman to like someone when she isn't feeling it. That being said if a guy can come at her differently than the norm, she will appreciate that. "My name is Mike what's yours?" Boringggg. But if you're like "You look like you have a lovely name ;) let me guess what it is" that's on the right path.
 

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I don't necessarily disagree with you (because my own experience over a fairly long time now has taught me that what you say is largely irrelevant and she kind of decides if she wants you (or not) before you've even finished your opener and it's non negotiable) BUT it's still true that like 50% of the PUA community would say what you've described above isn't game at all, and they'd say if you get rejected using that approach it's because you didn't run any 'game' on the girl at all (things and techniques to essentially force attraction in her)

Again, i'm not really disagreeing with you, but this contrast in beliefs in the community is probably the cause for lots of confusion and arguments on PUA sites lol
There is a slight equivocation of the word "game" here, where the word is being used in two different contexts.

The way you are using the word "game" (along with 50% of the PUAs) is as a strategy used in efforts to woo the girl (charm, wit, humor, etc).

But the way I am using the word "game" is not to woo the girl at all, but rather in the context of a method/strategy used to ensure that..

1. Minimum effort is being exhausted.

2. Minimum time is being wasted.

3. Zero to very minium money is being spent or wasted.

I am using it as a strategy to protect myself, and it has absolutely nothing to do with wooing her.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Excellent stuff as always. If you know she likes you, throw her in the air like this. They LOVE this and all the girls around you will have the “**** me” eyes and want you to do it to them too.

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Have you tried it, on a cold approach? Yes or no?
 

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These muhfukaz on here don't listen, but maybe you are different.

Here is game..

The more attractive you are to a woman, the less you need to say to woo her.

It all starts with physical attraction. If she is physically attracted to you, then there is very little you will need to say.

Therefore, say very little.

1. Approach her.
2. Compliment her (You're cute).
3. Ask if she is single.
4. Ask her name (depending on answer to #3).
5. Ask for her number (or ask if you can give her yours).

Save the chit chat for the first date.

Of course, I would recommend some Mode One in there, but you may not be ready for that.

But yeah man, follow that simple blueprint and save yourself some time/anxiety.
Thanks for the reply. Approaching and getting the number close is easy right know. I want to know how to take her from the club directly to the bed.

What strategies or game do you use for that?
 

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Thanks for the reply. Approaching and getting the number close is easy right know. I want to know how to take her from the club directly to the bed.

What strategies or game do you use for that?
Mode One.

Be bold, honest, and direct..letting her know your true intentions.

Simple as that.
 
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