Phoenixpua-london
Don Juan
Phoenix has been on one of his big thinks again.
This time I have been thinking about closing.
What is closing - well it isn’t really closing is it - I mean if it was they you would never see the girl again I think that closing is more like keeping her waiting - now I reckon if you don’t close right then she wont think about you – so this makes me think closing is probably the most important part of the interaction.
Now I may be wrong but here we go anyway….
Right most people think of closing as a kiss or a number or a shag – well that is all good but I think we should think more into it – closing should be more like “what do I have to do to see her again” I think this is why most PUAs get flaked, and why I have never been flaked on, (tempting fate I know) when I’m with a girl and we are getting on well, if I decide I would like to see her again I start looking for things to talk about tomorrow, like texts to send – I try to burn my aura into her head so that all she can think about is me – and if I don’t call her or whatever she is going to really miss me, so much so she will call me.
I feel that it is so important not to kiss her when she expects it I always tease her first – like have you ever noticed women will pull away from you sometimes then go back in for the kiss – well I do the same – it is like I go in then get LMR back off then look into her eyes and kiss her – there was a post the other week about just grab her and kiss her don’t complicate things – well I agree but I think this is the quick way to get flaked on.
Think of it another way – if I get a woman to a state that she wants to have sex and we are in a club I wouldn’t just grab her not ask and just **** her on the dance floor, I would have to wait until we were in a place to do that – so why do so many guys just grab a girl on the dance floor and start kissing them. Ok here is where it gets good!!! I thought about this and talked to some of my wing girls.
Conclusion:
As we know most women love to be princesses or whatever and want a fairytale life I suppose – now what my wing girls ALL said to me, 16 of them, was the same thing – they want the man they marry, to sweep them off of there feet with the first kiss.
That doesn’t mean to say that you want to marry every woman u meet, or that you want them to want to marry you.
But if a woman feels this way then surely she would feel more at ease, and sure she was doing the right thing – so again I put this to my wing girls. They said that if a guy made them feel like this with a kiss, they would be so curious what he was like in bed. So I’m like, “ok I think we have solved the problem”, however this raised a new issue how do you kiss and make it stick in their brain?
I thought this was going to be the hard part but actually again my wing girls helped me out. One of them said to me "ok I will kiss you before the end of the night and u will be blown away", I was like ok – now she is not attractive I feel bad to say this but, I want you all to know I was in no way attracted to her she is a friend – but I was up for doing it for the sake of the game.
Anyway she eventually kissed me and I must say it made my heart pump.
I was like WTF and actually wanted to kiss her more? My brain couldn’t understand this – it really was strange.
Then she told me how she done it, And oh my god was it simple:
She had me convinced that she could kiss me and make it last, and I had convinced myself she couldn’t, by doing this it causes tension by the thought I had in my head, I knew she was going to kiss me but I didn’t know when. This made my body exited when she eventually kissed me, like I had waited and worked for it.
Now this may seem obvious to you guys, but do you ever think about doing this in a set? Nope we just kiss and hope. In fact if we want to completely satisfy a woman and not be normal guys “AFC” then surely we should all be best kissers and should all work on this – just like we do when it comes to sex (well I do anyway).
So how do we get this out into the field?? Well what I thought I would try was this.
When you get to the point where you know she wants you, simply say “ I bet I could kiss you before the end of the night and it would “blow you away” I thought to myself why complicate it keep it simple do the same as my wing girl done.
But to my surprise this didn’t work??? So again I went back to my closer wings to find out more – they said to me it needs to be natural I think you may have been thinking about it to much and women can pick this up (which we know)
So I went back to the drawing board (The field) – and I’m pleased to say that I actually found the solution.
Ok how I done it was simply do what I always done lean in to kiss, draw back but before I close I breath in through my nose slightly to just peak the tension hold the back of her head and kiss her, move my hand down her jaw line slightly, lean out look into her eyes, close your eyes, then kiss her a passionately, (by passionately I mean deep breathing through the nose and French kissing with tongues – u should know what I mean) – worked a charm!!!
I have only tested this like 5 times with quick sets, so like k close in first 10 mins – but it seems to work. I have had 3 of the chicks calling me first and the other 2 wanting to meet me the next day, Also I asked my wing girls and they got all turned on just by the thought.
I think this kissing routine can be used in short interactions as well as long – in fact I reckon if you manage to get this tight then this may get rid of the 7hr rule and even cut it in half – I’m going to keep working on this…
I also wanted to expand this to not just k closing but number closing – now as u know number closes mean more to a woman than a kiss close and most women find it hard to trust you enough to give you her number. And even when you get the number she still may never call back hence the need for text game etc… but I’m going to shoot myself in the foot and try to get rid of text game all together, here is my progress.
So I was thinking along the lines of – I need to get a woman interested enough so that she wanted to talk to me again – now I hear you say “DUHH no **** Sherlock” but are you ever really sure that she will accept your calls or call you???
Ok it has been like 4 days now since I wrote the last part (what I’m busy)
Right since writing this I have had a 4 min K-close – she hooked so well that she noticed me outside a club as she drove past a week later – I wasn’t even peacocked!!! anyway I ran my kissing routine on her, she always texts and just cant wait to see me, but I never have time.
Second I have had a possible F-close in 20mins of meet but then – well summit really funny happened that is in one of my FRS involving the police Lol.
But again she hooked so well that within 20 mins she wanted to go to her hotel room with me, she was American and HB7.
Anyway back to the subject: so I’m proving that it is possible to do this kissing routine successfully but I have yet to master the phone routine – I think the principle is that if you make a huge connection then she is guaranteed to answer or call you. So I have been trying things like giving her 10 digits instead of 11 and letting her work for it – basically trying to see how far a woman will go to get back in contact with me – now I have lost allot of chicks because of this but hay if it makes me better then, speculate to accumulate right?
Anyway what I have found is that you can actually make the number so much less important to her by just doing the kissing routine – also it is the way u get the number – best results I have had is when arranging a day 2 in set (more on this later) just say “oh lets exchange numbers now encase we forget later – wow I cant wait it will be so fun”
What I have also found with number closing a chick she will only call you if she is REALLY hooked – so if you want to give her your number you should give her a way out, what I mean by this is say to her
“Ok I want you to text me tomorrow with the letter “A” so I can then make a decision if I want to talk to you – WHAT?? - if you send me a question then I may not want to answer it but will feel obliged (smile and say) only joking text me tomorrow and we will hook up – so anyway this dog I was talking about”….. (continue your conversation)
This time I have been thinking about closing.
What is closing - well it isn’t really closing is it - I mean if it was they you would never see the girl again I think that closing is more like keeping her waiting - now I reckon if you don’t close right then she wont think about you – so this makes me think closing is probably the most important part of the interaction.
Now I may be wrong but here we go anyway….
Right most people think of closing as a kiss or a number or a shag – well that is all good but I think we should think more into it – closing should be more like “what do I have to do to see her again” I think this is why most PUAs get flaked, and why I have never been flaked on, (tempting fate I know) when I’m with a girl and we are getting on well, if I decide I would like to see her again I start looking for things to talk about tomorrow, like texts to send – I try to burn my aura into her head so that all she can think about is me – and if I don’t call her or whatever she is going to really miss me, so much so she will call me.
I feel that it is so important not to kiss her when she expects it I always tease her first – like have you ever noticed women will pull away from you sometimes then go back in for the kiss – well I do the same – it is like I go in then get LMR back off then look into her eyes and kiss her – there was a post the other week about just grab her and kiss her don’t complicate things – well I agree but I think this is the quick way to get flaked on.
Think of it another way – if I get a woman to a state that she wants to have sex and we are in a club I wouldn’t just grab her not ask and just **** her on the dance floor, I would have to wait until we were in a place to do that – so why do so many guys just grab a girl on the dance floor and start kissing them. Ok here is where it gets good!!! I thought about this and talked to some of my wing girls.
Conclusion:
As we know most women love to be princesses or whatever and want a fairytale life I suppose – now what my wing girls ALL said to me, 16 of them, was the same thing – they want the man they marry, to sweep them off of there feet with the first kiss.
That doesn’t mean to say that you want to marry every woman u meet, or that you want them to want to marry you.
But if a woman feels this way then surely she would feel more at ease, and sure she was doing the right thing – so again I put this to my wing girls. They said that if a guy made them feel like this with a kiss, they would be so curious what he was like in bed. So I’m like, “ok I think we have solved the problem”, however this raised a new issue how do you kiss and make it stick in their brain?
I thought this was going to be the hard part but actually again my wing girls helped me out. One of them said to me "ok I will kiss you before the end of the night and u will be blown away", I was like ok – now she is not attractive I feel bad to say this but, I want you all to know I was in no way attracted to her she is a friend – but I was up for doing it for the sake of the game.
Anyway she eventually kissed me and I must say it made my heart pump.
I was like WTF and actually wanted to kiss her more? My brain couldn’t understand this – it really was strange.
Then she told me how she done it, And oh my god was it simple:
She had me convinced that she could kiss me and make it last, and I had convinced myself she couldn’t, by doing this it causes tension by the thought I had in my head, I knew she was going to kiss me but I didn’t know when. This made my body exited when she eventually kissed me, like I had waited and worked for it.
Now this may seem obvious to you guys, but do you ever think about doing this in a set? Nope we just kiss and hope. In fact if we want to completely satisfy a woman and not be normal guys “AFC” then surely we should all be best kissers and should all work on this – just like we do when it comes to sex (well I do anyway).
So how do we get this out into the field?? Well what I thought I would try was this.
When you get to the point where you know she wants you, simply say “ I bet I could kiss you before the end of the night and it would “blow you away” I thought to myself why complicate it keep it simple do the same as my wing girl done.
But to my surprise this didn’t work??? So again I went back to my closer wings to find out more – they said to me it needs to be natural I think you may have been thinking about it to much and women can pick this up (which we know)
So I went back to the drawing board (The field) – and I’m pleased to say that I actually found the solution.
Ok how I done it was simply do what I always done lean in to kiss, draw back but before I close I breath in through my nose slightly to just peak the tension hold the back of her head and kiss her, move my hand down her jaw line slightly, lean out look into her eyes, close your eyes, then kiss her a passionately, (by passionately I mean deep breathing through the nose and French kissing with tongues – u should know what I mean) – worked a charm!!!
I have only tested this like 5 times with quick sets, so like k close in first 10 mins – but it seems to work. I have had 3 of the chicks calling me first and the other 2 wanting to meet me the next day, Also I asked my wing girls and they got all turned on just by the thought.
I think this kissing routine can be used in short interactions as well as long – in fact I reckon if you manage to get this tight then this may get rid of the 7hr rule and even cut it in half – I’m going to keep working on this…
I also wanted to expand this to not just k closing but number closing – now as u know number closes mean more to a woman than a kiss close and most women find it hard to trust you enough to give you her number. And even when you get the number she still may never call back hence the need for text game etc… but I’m going to shoot myself in the foot and try to get rid of text game all together, here is my progress.
So I was thinking along the lines of – I need to get a woman interested enough so that she wanted to talk to me again – now I hear you say “DUHH no **** Sherlock” but are you ever really sure that she will accept your calls or call you???
Ok it has been like 4 days now since I wrote the last part (what I’m busy)
Right since writing this I have had a 4 min K-close – she hooked so well that she noticed me outside a club as she drove past a week later – I wasn’t even peacocked!!! anyway I ran my kissing routine on her, she always texts and just cant wait to see me, but I never have time.
Second I have had a possible F-close in 20mins of meet but then – well summit really funny happened that is in one of my FRS involving the police Lol.
But again she hooked so well that within 20 mins she wanted to go to her hotel room with me, she was American and HB7.
Anyway back to the subject: so I’m proving that it is possible to do this kissing routine successfully but I have yet to master the phone routine – I think the principle is that if you make a huge connection then she is guaranteed to answer or call you. So I have been trying things like giving her 10 digits instead of 11 and letting her work for it – basically trying to see how far a woman will go to get back in contact with me – now I have lost allot of chicks because of this but hay if it makes me better then, speculate to accumulate right?
Anyway what I have found is that you can actually make the number so much less important to her by just doing the kissing routine – also it is the way u get the number – best results I have had is when arranging a day 2 in set (more on this later) just say “oh lets exchange numbers now encase we forget later – wow I cant wait it will be so fun”
What I have also found with number closing a chick she will only call you if she is REALLY hooked – so if you want to give her your number you should give her a way out, what I mean by this is say to her
“Ok I want you to text me tomorrow with the letter “A” so I can then make a decision if I want to talk to you – WHAT?? - if you send me a question then I may not want to answer it but will feel obliged (smile and say) only joking text me tomorrow and we will hook up – so anyway this dog I was talking about”….. (continue your conversation)
