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Yes, the longer a girl stays with you, the better you are. Men should prefer advice from men who have kept women around longer.

I take health advice from healthy people and I take relationship advice from people who maintain relationships.
The better you are at what? Jumping through hoops like some clown doing a clown show? Being a doormat? Losing your identity?

This is an accomplishment to you? Do you actually care about yourself at all or do you just live to make women happy?
 

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The better you are at what? Jumping through hoops like some clown doing a clown show? Being a doormat? Losing your identity?

This is an accomplishment to you? Do you actually care about yourself at all or do you just live to make women happy?
^^^This post deserves 750k reps. No joke.
 

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The better you are at what?
The longer you keep girls around the better you are at keeping girls happy.

This is a relationship forum. You have admitted you have zero long term relationship experience and seem to have an affinity for saying things that are demonstrably false, yet insist on pretending you are a pro.

And just so we're clear: I'll prefer advice on how to win the Super Bowl from Tom Brady, and I'll hire people who put their experience on their resume over people like you who have the audacity to ask "What good is experience?"

There are no second place trophy wives.
 

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The longer you keep girls around the better you are at keeping girls happy.

This is a relationship forum. You have admitted you have zero long term relationship experience and seem to have an affinity for saying things that are demonstrably false, yet insist on pretending you are a pro.

And just so we're clear: I'll prefer advice on how to win the Super Bowl from Tom Brady, and I'll hire people who put their experience on their resume over people like you who have the audacity to ask "What good is experience?"

There are no second place trophy wives.
What I'm asking you is if keeping women happy is more important than keeping yourself happy.

If having longer LTR's with women means being less happy, how is that an accomplishment?
 

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Tom Brady wife's up strippers?
What I'm asking you is if keeping women happy is more important than keeping yourself happy.

If having longer LTR's with women means being less happy, how is that an accomplishment?
A stripper/ "model" no less.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least that Delusioneil shows his unicorn these threads in an effort to prove his love and devotion to her defending her honor.
 

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What I'm asking you is if keeping women happy is more important than keeping yourself happy.

If having longer LTR's with women means being less happy, how is that an accomplishment?
Why are you implying that keeping a woman happy comes at your own expense?

The right woman will improve your life merely with her presence, will stay with you, and you will know it the moment you see her. In fact, you will know it about half a second before you actually focus on her. You will especially know it the first time you hold her. It's like holding two magnets together versus two marbles. Everyone in the room will know you are a match.
 

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Congrats bigneil on ur continuing LTR... Agreed that being careful and selective is an important key to success. Just one question to u if I may be so bold... Do u believe she knew of u prior ??? It seems she may have.... But duely noted her initiating and high interest levels seem to display that yes successful relationships do not detract from life, not even close...
 

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A man who can have any girl will pick out the woman that he loves the most. He will make it clear that she is his favorite girl, and she is.
remember when charlie sheen had two girlfriends?

I see your point but I disagree with this statement, a man who gets girls would probably do something that depends on his personality and goals, I think the idea that guys who can have any girl will decide to settle down with some random plain jane (instead of playing the field til they're old and gray like hugh hef) is a romantic comedy trope
 
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remember when charlie sheen had two girlfriends?

I see your point but I disagree with this statement, a man who gets girls would probably do something that depends on his personality and goals, I think the idea that guys who can have any girl will decide to settle down with some random plain jane (instead of playing the field til they're old and gray like hugh hef) is a romantic comedy trope
Ok, but you can bet Charlie Sheen REALLY liked those two girls. He wasn't saying "That one is ok, but I really miss Susie" (checking his phone) or "I could date hotter girls but I want one who loves me for me".
 

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Just one question to u if I may be so bold... Do u believe she knew of u prior ??? It seems she may have....
Good insight. She and I had love at second sight. I met her on New Year's Eve when she was a petite brunette waitress, then saw her again in August when she was a blonde stripper with false eyelashes standing high on a stage. I was awestruck by her. The first 2 times I tipped her and walked out of the building. The third time she said "Hey! Don't leave this time!" and sat on my lap after. We melted together. I got her number in September, kissed her the next day, then realized that weekend we had already met (texting her a photo of the meeting place to boot). So our relationship quickly had that "meant to be" feel. This is something I've found happens quite often. When you meet a girl and somehow realize you know her (or maybe dated her) from some time ago. Nothing is more romantic to them. Always go with that angle. Women love that sort of thing since they want to think they are memorable and then they can believe it's destiny. I told her "The universe wants us to be together, and I tried to stop it, but it was too big".
 
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The right woman will improve your life merely with her presence, will stay with you, and you will know it the moment you see her. In fact, you will know it about half a second before you actually focus on her. You will especially know it the first time you hold her. It's like holding two magnets together versus two marbles. Everyone in the room will know you are a match.
You are talking about that Girl? Don't you?
Favorite Girl Officially Diagnosed with BPD
 

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The better you are at what? Jumping through hoops like some clown doing a clown show? Being a doormat? Losing your identity?

This is an accomplishment to you? Do you actually care about yourself at all or do you just live to make women happy?
Though I agree with this to some extent, I think there is a growing opinion among many men (especially on this forum) that relationships should be an effortless stream of bliss and any sign of discomfort or unhappiness is a warning sign to end the relationship immediately.

Women think the same thing too.

Think of previous generations, most of us have had parents or grandparents stay with each other through tough times, whilst these days the average person thinks they're in a romantic comedy where it literally is "happily ever after", just look at divorce rates...isn't it ironic that we're living at a time of peace where most people in the first world can have almost anything, but at the same time people are more unhappy than ever?

I'm not saying we should settle with anyone, but I think for any relationship to work long term sacrifices have to be made for BOTH parties and there will always be times when you want to straggle her.
 

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Though I agree with this to some extent, I think there is a growing opinion among many men (especially on this forum) that relationships should be an effortless stream of bliss and any sign of discomfort or unhappiness is a warning sign to end the relationship immediately.

Women think the same thing too.

Think of previous generations, most of us have had parents or grandparents stay with each other through tough times, whilst these days the average person thinks they're in a romantic comedy where it literally is "happily ever after", just look at divorce rates...isn't it ironic that we're living at a time of peace where most people in the first world can have almost anything, but at the same time people are more unhappy than ever?

I'm not saying we should settle with anyone, but I think for any relationship to work long term sacrifices have to be made for BOTH parties and there will always be times when you want to straggle her.
Maybe that is a sign that traditional LTR's are nothing more than a tradition and actually don't serve much of a purpose in the modern world.

If people are increasingly more happy while single or in short term open relationships than they are in serious LTR's.. we need to examine that.

Rather than assuming people need to change how they operate to meet the demands of a LTR, maybe LTR's need to change to meet the needs of today's people.

Just thinking out loud.
 

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You are talking about that Girl? Don't you?
Favorite Girl Officially Diagnosed with BPD
Not an argument. She either has BPD and doesn't show me any bad signs, or doesn't really have it. The methods you guys use to dismiss working examples is a riot. I must be paying. She must be lying. She's not that hot. Don't trust strippers. She's got BPD... Well, I'm on my way to see her. Taking her to a different strip club on a date tonight (where my second favorite girl works).

The reality is, I have about 8 girls at my disposal and I have consistently chose this one, and yet people think they can dismiss her as being the best. If she weren't, I would have fallen back to the other 7 (yawn). I've spent the night with 4 different women (ages 19, 22, 26 and 40) and had dates with 3 other girls (ages 23, 45, and 24) besides her since we started dating but hardly mention them.

Notice how when I say things are good, people say I'm lying, but when I say she has BPD, people exaggerate how much that means? It's called Bias.

There is a growing opinion among many men (especially on this forum) that relationships should be an effortless stream of bliss and any sign of discomfort or unhappiness is a warning sign to end the relationship immediately.
If there is one theme of my discussions of my favorite girl, it is this. People want to say "Aha! She wasn't perfect!!" and they are keeping track of her flaws the way my mom would.

This girl (who is 21 and super hot, as if she should be expected to be faithful) was with one other guy besides me (on a ONS she says was borderline date rape) in our nearly 6 months of having sex and people think that proves that I should have dumped her back in December. Since then I have had some of the best dates of my life, have taken some of the best photos, and had some of the best sex of my life. I would estimate that most members here would have recommended I break up with her before any of that happened, because she didn't automatically commit to me within the first month we had sex.

As it turns out, that ONS she had scared her straight. She had been young and wild most of her life, but that made her realize that we have something special that she can't repeat with anyone (the way ordinary sex was in abundance for her). When I slept with other girls I realized the same thing: when you find the right person, sleeping with someone else makes you like the right person more, not less. Truth be told, I should have paid that guy to take her out in December.

That's why I like dating strippers. If you get a date, that means she chose you out of 1000 guys. Your relationship is like tempered glass at that point. They are harder to get, but easier to keep.
 
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Read this book. Hated it. I'm not switching up my personality for a certain type of "victim."

I hope 48 Laws of Power is much better.
 

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I tried listening to the audio-book, but didn't finish it.

The usefulness of it was to act as a mirror. It pointed out the things that I do that I didn't even realize. It's a great book for self-awareness.

But, I can't possibly remember all of those details. Also, there is no way that I'm tailoring my game just for any one particular woman. That is about as inefficient as it gets.

I guess Robert Greene never heard of the term "oneitis".
Ha! Sounds a lot like Art of Seduction. I'll give it a try, thanks for the heads-up.
 

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I was talking about Art Of Seduction.

But yeah, 48 laws is the same. It probably has more general use, and I found the historic stories to be more interesting.

I actually finished that one, so that says something ;)
By the way deesade, just saw you yesterday on T2 Trainspotting, looking good as always ;)
 

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This is a "relationship forum", is it now? :lol:
Absolutely. Whether a casual relationship or committed relationship, seduction is about forming and maintaining relationships with women you want to have sex with.

Last night my girlfriend (on the 5 month anniversary of the first time we had sex) told me she has always loved me, that she fell in love the first time we made love, that I am her ideal type so much it kills her to think about how weak she has become toward me, and she said she never loved any man in her life as much as me. I chose the right victim.
 
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