Chinese city plans to fine unmarried mothers

[Burroughs]

smart move...if women want *choice* they should have to pay the financial burden of their *choice*...not have the cost filtered to taxpayers.

notice all the femcvnts chiming in the comments that men should be fined as well..:crazy:

what happened to women's mantra *my body my choice*....seems like women want all the benefits but none of the costs associated with their choices

http://news.yahoo.com/chinese-city-plans-fine-unmarried-133939519.html

 

[PeakIV]

Chinese city plans to fine unmarried mothers..........

That will be more kids down the toilet..Oh don't we live in a lovely world?

 

[evan12]

China also started a program of shaming single women over 25
They want to save their family structure

 

[LiveFreeX]

Proud to say I participate daily in this program. I don't think you will see more children down the toilet. You will however see women who are less willing to have sex freely and become westernized (a growing trend among the population). China is changing rapidly and the last few months have seen a dramatic shift in rules and laws in China. The current state is akin to 1980's USA, new fashion, ideas and products are available to the Chinese and a new middle class has risen from the ashes of the old world, helped along by the american dollar. Chinese tend to think with a heard/hive mentality so when I address China, I'm addressing the majority of the population.

I think China is seeing the world as it becomes more aware of super power status. The USA and the other 1st world countries are experiencing a dramatic increase of gay/transgender/lesbo/single mom incidences and they want to curb this in order to keep things from devolving into the current chaos you have at home.

Chinese people are still pretty comfortable with their genders and roles as men and women. They also generally reject and are somewhat disgusted by the western ideas of trans-gender and gay, however the western progressive attitudes are being fed into the people slowly via English school teachers, many of whom are unmarried, fat, single american women (potential lesbo) on 'eat,pray,love' vacations and gay dudes masquerading as macho guys.

Luckily my wife at 24 is still repulsed by the thought of two guys or two girls. Many women here have a general disdain for single mothers and cause of a heavily embedded Chinese culture, will be quick to swarm/shame any single mothers. If you are NOT married in China and are over the 25 year mark, you are a societal outcast and a detriment to your family. Most Chinese men will not marry women over 25 and only the lowliest men will consider a single mom, which is basically akin to eating someone else's vomit. Unfortunately, at the same time many Chinese women want to be like Americans and are thus adopting these wayward attitudes. I truly believe the gay/single mom epidemic is a depopulation weapon system of some sort. Seems a lot of people are just jumping on the gay wagon and coming out as cross-dressers and what not at home because its the 'in' thing. The penalties associated with this behavior in China are quite heavy, the one gay friendly woman I know, is fairly attractive but at 30 she still can't figure out why she can't meet a man that will marry her. She complains that all of her male friends are gay and frequently travels to Britian and America to seek out companionship but it has yet to translate into a family.

Its time to take a good hard look at what America has wrought upon itself. Women by association to American ideals are becoming spinsters and men, gay friendly manginas. I address this issue quite a bit when the Chinese go on their anti-west tirades. Imagine the 50's looking at our generation, what would they say? That is China in a nutshell. While things aren't great here and there are many problems that need attention, I can still be a man in a man's world where people IDENTIFY with the characteristics and natural instincts they were born with. Single motherhood has never been popular and should never gain popularity, the fall of the family is at hand in America and the rise of pro gay/lesbo/feminist rights is your result. If you support these then you are against family and against the human race, China and the communist party realize this. Strangely enough there are SOME benefits to a one party system if the one party is still conservative.

Hopefully China isn't wiped out by 'western' progression. I truly believe we are seeing the fallout of the western empire.

 

[Burroughs]

This is a lot like the 50s looking at us now and shaking our heads...

If this had been done in the 60s-70s the family unity would not have dissolved to the sorry state it is now

Very true the homo/feminist agenda is about depopulation

 

[( . )( . )]

Good stuff LiveFree. If the Chinese are smart and I have a feeling they are, they should be paying very close attention to the current Western decline and learning what not to do. I know your seeing an increase in fat Western manjaws gurrrl roaring over there which is I admit disheartening but they seem to have as many red pill "feel good" stories come out of there at the same time and that's encouraging.

 

[Nutz]

Rights have responsibilities, and if they want to have kids out of wedlock they absolutely should be held responsible for that decision. In this case they are going to tax them, presumably to offset the costs the state is burdened with when women have kids out of wedlock. Smart move, too. In the US that cost is gargantuan, both fiscally and socially. The #1 predictor of social ills such as teen pregnancy, drug abuse, school dropouts, and a variety of other issues, is being raised by a single mother. All of those issues have an incalculable cost to society.

 

[Jitterbug]

Chinese city plans to fine unmarried mothers..........

That will be more kids down the toilet..Oh don't we live in a lovely world?

Nah, probably fewer said incidents, as the women would be way less willing to be unmarried mothers in the first place.

Else, you can look at the millions of abortions flushed down the toilets in America as an example of what can happen to them.

 

[fuzzball]

Proud to say I participate daily in this program. I don't think you will see more children down the toilet. You will however see women who are less willing to have sex freely and become westernized (a growing trend among the population). China is changing rapidly and the last few months have seen a dramatic shift in rules and laws in China. The current state is akin to 1980's USA, new fashion, ideas and products are available to the Chinese and a new middle class has risen from the ashes of the old world, helped along by the american dollar. Chinese tend to think with a heard/hive mentality so when I address China, I'm addressing the majority of the population.

I think China is seeing the world as it becomes more aware of super power status. The USA and the other 1st world countries are experiencing a dramatic increase of gay/transgender/lesbo/single mom incidences and they want to curb this in order to keep things from devolving into the current chaos you have at home.

Chinese people are still pretty comfortable with their genders and roles as men and women. They also generally reject and are somewhat disgusted by the western ideas of trans-gender and gay, however the western progressive attitudes are being fed into the people slowly via English school teachers, many of whom are unmarried, fat, single american women (potential lesbo) on 'eat,pray,love' vacations and gay dudes masquerading as macho guys.

Luckily my wife at 24 is still repulsed by the thought of two guys or two girls. Many women here have a general disdain for single mothers and cause of a heavily embedded Chinese culture, will be quick to swarm/shame any single mothers. If you are NOT married in China and are over the 25 year mark, you are a societal outcast and a detriment to your family. Most Chinese men will not marry women over 25 and only the lowliest men will consider a single mom, which is basically akin to eating someone else's vomit. Unfortunately, at the same time many Chinese women want to be like Americans and are thus adopting these wayward attitudes. I truly believe the gay/single mom epidemic is a depopulation weapon system of some sort. Seems a lot of people are just jumping on the gay wagon and coming out as cross-dressers and what not at home because its the 'in' thing. The penalties associated with this behavior in China are quite heavy, the one gay friendly woman I know, is fairly attractive but at 30 she still can't figure out why she can't meet a man that will marry her. She complains that all of her male friends are gay and frequently travels to Britian and America to seek out companionship but it has yet to translate into a family.

Its time to take a good hard look at what America has wrought upon itself. Women by association to American ideals are becoming spinsters and men, gay friendly manginas. I address this issue quite a bit when the Chinese go on their anti-west tirades. Imagine the 50's looking at our generation, what would they say? That is China in a nutshell. While things aren't great here and there are many problems that need attention, I can still be a man in a man's world where people IDENTIFY with the characteristics and natural instincts they were born with. Single motherhood has never been popular and should never gain popularity, the fall of the family is at hand in America and the rise of pro gay/lesbo/feminist rights is your result. If you support these then you are against family and against the human race, China and the communist party realize this. Strangely enough there are SOME benefits to a one party system if the one party is still conservative.

Hopefully China isn't wiped out by 'western' progression. I truly believe we are seeing the fallout of the western empire.

excellent post overall. however China does have an increase in gay men. the reason is there is such a high number of men compared to women thanks to the 1 child law which resulted in female babies either being outright killed or left for dead. although China i think is finally aware of all the problems brought on by this and if i recall have offered government subsidies to keep a female baby. i also cant remember if the 1 child law is still in effect there or not.

this has made it actually somewhat dangerous to be a girl over there as they are a high commodity especially in the more rural and less civilized sections of the country resulting in a lot of kidnapping.

due to so many less females than males gay males have been on the rise as well as single beta males with no ambition because their are no mates(and the women there are probably like american women....not attracted to beta males until they hit their 30s and are desperate). not to mention this is half backwards from a normal society that always has more females than males. this has resulted in violence and an increase in homosexuality.

this is also making a society where there are more elderly than young people which i dont think i need to explain why it is bad for a society to have more elders than youth.

so i am not sure i would call China the model country for the model family unit they certainly have messed things up greatly. whether its better than america or not that can be debated.

 

[LiveFreeX]

This is true Fuzzball, we are far from a model society, there are sacrifices to be made living under any system. And yes you are right there is a rise in gay guys happening in the 1st tier cities closest to Hong Kong, also I have noticed a rise in lesbianism here in the Southern tier cities.

What is funny is I tell my wife, China is America currently in the 1980s. China models America for pretty much everything, and I think we are going to see a similar thing happening as China progresses over the next 20 to 50 years. The 1 child policy is no longer in effect, I think they are aware of the damage. That being said, there is tremendous opportunity here if you are in a position to take advantage of it. I was explaining to a friend today my point of view, I believe anywhere there is turmoil, there is opportunity, its only when a civilization grows stagnant and people stop having children that society dies. I am not static in my belief, nor my country and go where the opportunity presents itself. Currently, China is still in possession of traditional and cultural values. That may dry up in the next 30 years with the rise of the middle class but there is still significant opportunity being created here. China will likely be pumping out a lot of new ideas in the coming years, that seems to be why they are adopting a more western mindset and there is money available to creative people..